TED Entertainment Inc. v. Alexandra Marwa Saber, Morgan Kamal Majed, and Kasey Caviness, California 2:25-cv-5564, 2:25-cv-5565,Missouri 4:25-cv-459 - Ethan Klein Suing three women and 10 redditors for Copyright Infringement.

[Gobermental Supervisor]

You had to pay to watch it? If that's the case, then yeah, it's no different than if it were Star Wars. But if it's just ad revenue then Denims would have had to pause the video for less time than the ads did for it to count as a market replacement, I would think, based on this ruling.

No, the platform is monetized, which means income is generated via ad-share, and/or viewer subscriptions to the platform (Youtube+) or to the channel as memberships.
Diverting viewers away from his channel directly reduces his income.

Just because you did not directly pay with your money to watch, does not mean that you are not paying in other ways, like by viewing ads.

 

[AnOminous]

The only thing she achieves with this is that she will have another 2 years of Appeals to pay lawyers for, because this ruling is dumb as a matter of law and will never stand.

The fun thing is if it does, it's actually good. In the instant case, I really really wanted to see redditors take it up the ass. I thought that was inevitable given the defendants basically saying "yoo hoo, I'm about to commit a copyright infringement at the instant of the release of someone else's content so please watch my stream so you can steal the guy's money."

This was based on my apparently incorrect assumption of not having a mongoloid judge, and by that I mean a chink idiot from Los Angeles. Look at this faggot.

Thanks Biden!

 

[Cuckoman]

If the Jew loses, despite the actual law this Biden-appointed cocksucking faggot just made up, whatever. Let him take it to the Ninth, roll the dice, see what happens. He could easily win there because look how gay this decision is.

I think the best part of him going to the Ninth is that regardless of outcome we win.
A, redditors are fucked
or
B, hollywood and the copyright system are fucked

 

[AnOminous]

Even in the tentative itself, I'm not certain how the fuck "(3) stating that disabled Americans lose disability benefits when they get married;(4) incarceration levels in the United States" relates in any way to "criticism of Piker’s apologia of China’s genocide of the Uyghurs."

Just fart and say "nigger" every couple minutes. That's now "transformative" according to Biden's chinkjudge, who also waves a Nazi flag and hates Jews.

Based, I guess?

 

[zipcityenjoyer]

Legal expert Gobermental was wrongagain? Must be a bad judge! If only they knew copyright infringement like he, an expert, does!

 

[p1138]

I guess at the end of the day it may be a win for free use. Which we should all be happy for, even if it's a win for a vapid ewhore thot like Denims.
Kaceytron gotta be feeling like a retard for settling right about now. Wonder what Frogan will do.

Kaceytron's case might not have had the exact same circumstances, and Frogan is just fucking retarded by defaulting and completely screwed herself in the process, unless her lawyer was just lying to her the entire time in which case she's now got a winnable lawsuit against her former lawyer if she can show that she was lied to in communication with them.

I did not have "well she made it antisemitic" "That's transformative then" on my bingo card for this though, what a fucking fail.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Legal expert Gobermental was wrongagain? Must be a bad judge! If only they knew copyright infringement like he, an expert, does!

Can't help it if California is being California again and the judge wants to rule entirely contrary to the law and established case law.
You can never be sure about what a judge will do, regardless of what the law says, since the dystopian state of the US justice system is allowing judges to just about everything they want with minimal consequences.

Did you really log into your inactive account just to shitpost me?

Wow, I am honored.
True fan.

 

[KingFrampt]

On one hand copyright must die, on the other hand I want a muhammadin to behead Denims... a moral conundrum..

 

[zipcityenjoyer]

Can't help it if California is being California again and the judge wants to rule entirely contrary to the law and established case law.
You can never be sure about what a judge will do, regardless of what the law says, since the dystopian state of the US justice system is allowing judges to just about everything they want with minimal consequences.

Did you really log into your inactive account just to shitpost me?

Wow, I am honored.
True fan.

I really am, love watching you shit up every legal thread with badly formed legal arguments and "the judge is wrong because they're a communist". Keep doing you!

 

[kingfollett]

The fun thing is if it does, it's actually good. In the instant case, I really really wanted to see redditors take it up the ass. I thought that was inevitable given the defendants basically saying "yoo hoo, I'm about to commit a copyright infringement at the instant of the release of someone else's content so please watch my stream so you can steal the guy's money."

This was based on my apparently incorrect assumption of not having a mongoloid judge, and by that I mean a chink idiot from Los Angeles. Look at this faggot.
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Thanks Biden!

Have judges always been this bad?
It’s not all of them, but it seems like the percentage of imbeciles is increasing every year. But maybe there have always been clowns.
It’s interesting, because the power the judicial branch has seems quite fragile, in that it requires buy in from the other branches, it almost seems inevitable we’ll get another Andrew Jackson type response at some point in the near future

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

badly formed legal arguments

It is called "having an opinion".
If you want well founded legal opinions based on 30+ years of legal practice, you may want to go suck so cocks in pubs near Yale or Harvard instead of reading a gossip forum.

KYS Nigger

 

[Historical Strelkov]

As it should be. When you are adding to a work, you are transforming it. It doesn't have to be a good addition to count.

Consider Monkey Christ.

You aren't adding to the work any more than niggers in the theater saying "OH LAWD DON'T GO IN THERE, DON'T GO IN THERE HE IN THERE GURL SHIIIET"

The idea that its "transforming the work" is sort of akin to how a baby throwing a tantrum is "transforming" the spaghetti and tomato sauce dish you made for it.

Now, actual critique and criticism? of course. But even then, its not "transforming the work" its making something else.

 

[Cuckoman]

If we lower the bar for what is valid transformative,
when does it get to the point that applying a fan-translation to commercial software and distributing the result becomes legal?

Surely fan translations like this: https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2307/
is much more transformative than just watching some media witouth making any commentary.

 

[Luke gama]

God so I hate the people he's suing. But it's a millionaire Jew using his money to bully pe

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

If we lower the bar for what is valid transformative,
when does it get to the point that applying a fan-translation to commercial software and distributing the result becomes legal?

Surely fan translations like this: https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2307/
is much more transformative than just watching some media witouth making any commentary.

Anime fan subs speak 100% of the time the characters talk, if that isn't transformative I don't know what is.
They even speak in a different language!

 

[AnOminous]

if its finalized, is binding for every fed district or just the one denims is in?

The Biden appointee has not yet made this idiotic ruling, just stated his chinky intent to do so.

wtf I love Denims now.

If Denims wins and Ethan loses, I'm switching sides. I'm just not going to back a loser. Get up off your ass and win this one Reethan.

I would still make the argument that an infringement on someone’s copyright isn’t theft even if courts have said otherwise, there’s plenty of areas where I think courts are too harsh on copyrights. (e.g. the existence of contributory infringement) I just happen to think they’re right about this one.

I don't think it's up to some dipshit District Court judge like this chink to make up the law instead of following precedent. That's some European shit distinct from our supposedly common law culture. There's a reason we have common law. It's so people can (at least in theory) know what behavior they're allowed to engage in and what is prohibited, and not get hit with random bullshit made up by some chinky-eyed faggot in a robe who just makes it all up based on who he likes.

It's fun you bring up contributory infringement in particular, because of the two recent SCOTUS decisions vastly limiting the court-created doctrine of contributory infringement. That itself may be fatal to the case against the reddit mods, but I still want to see them unmasked because I just fucking hate redditors.

Also I do agree that other than rhetorically, infringement is not theft. That said, fuck these thieves.

 

[RGK5H]

Have judges always been this bad?
It’s not all of them, but it seems like the percentage of imbeciles is increasing every year. But maybe there have always been clowns.
It’s interesting, because the power the judicial branch has seems quite fragile, in that it requires buy in from the other branches, it almost seems inevitable we’ll get another Andrew Jackson type response at some point in the near future

Its always Democrat appointed judges. The only exception i know of is the one who refused to throw out Gina Carano's suit against Disney

 

[SoyBoyCaliphate]

The fun thing is if it does, it's actually good. In the instant case, I really really wanted to see redditors take it up the ass. I thought that was inevitable given the defendants basically saying "yoo hoo, I'm about to commit a copyright infringement at the instant of the release of someone else's content so please watch my stream so you can steal the guy's money."

This was based on my apparently incorrect assumption of not having a mongoloid judge, and by that I mean a chink idiot from Los Angeles. Look at this faggot.
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Thanks Biden!

The reaction on X and the sheer humiliation of lot of ultraposters and internet ecelebs is so much better than I would have expected. It's like people were just waiting to pop off, this the biggest snark fest in months lmao. Thank you chinaman! Small sample from a month ago:

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

If Denims wins and Ethan loses, I'm switching sides. I'm just not going to back a loser. Get up off your ass and win this one Reethan.

As long as Denims is financially ruined, Ethan wins.
If she is not yet, the appeal will do her in.

I do not think "winning" is going to help her the way people seem to think it does.

 

[Nick G]

Courts decide issues based on the arguments the parties make, not the arguments they should have made. If you think about this decision in the context of the filings before the court, the decision makes sense.

Klein's complaint was a disaster. He sued Denims for copyright infringement knowing her defense would be fair use. The correct strategic choice would be to minimize any contribution by Denims, only briefly noting only that she made occasional comments that added nothing. Instead, Klein spent several pages complaining about the content of Denims' commentary. In one section, he makes the asinine argument that Denims' commentary should not be protected because it is misinformation. This is a David Stebbins argument with better grammar.

[Denims'] statements are [often] refuted by the cited source itself. Such misinformation fails to serve “copyright’s goal of enriching public knowledge.” To the contrary, such misinformation diminishes it.

Similarly, the correct strategic choice would be to claim audience overlap, such that it was plausible that somebody watching Denims would have watched Ethan but for her reaction stream. Klein spent pages upon pages explaining that Denims' audience hated H3 and there was no overlap.

It is true that Klein averred that Denims held a "watch party" and her commentary was not transformative, but these are conclusory statements that judges give no weight to. The factual allegations from Ethan's own complaint about Denims' stream and her audience weigh against these conclusions. The Court cited to Ethan's complaint extensively in the decision, explaining as much.

This is the same issue that Akilah Hughes had when she sued Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akaad). She made conclusory statements about Benjamin's video being non-transformative. She then spent the majority of the complaint explaining that Benjamin's video was spreading hate against her and that they had completely different audiences.