San Diego Islamic Center shooting

Jews don't believe in Jesus (expect the fact historically is that there was a guy named Jesus) because for us he didn't "pass the smell test" when it comes to our laws (and still doesn't). We just don't want you imposing your faith on us (again because we don't see it as "kosher" because it doesn't pass the smell test).
How exactly are Jews supposed to practice their faith without the temple anyway? Don't they need that to make sacrifices for sins? As far as the laws go, wasn't Jesus preaching to obey the spirit of the law, while saying that ceremonial laws didn't necessarily apply/need to be observed (I think I remember reading about something sourced from the Talmud about the reason for not mixing fabrics had something to do with outfits for pagan rituals for example). Not to mention in a New Covenant it would make sense that issues regarding ceremonial laws would change.

Also, a thought occurred to me recently. Do you really think it's a coincidence that someone claiming to form a New Covenant came along, and within a couple of decades the temple was destroyed and hasn't been rebuilt since? Also didn't Josephus outright admit to working miracles in Antiquities of the Jews?

As far as the thread tax goes, I'll have to agree with the others and say that Ann Coulter's law may be in effect here, and I'm doubting there white here. Also, I agree with your assessment that Islam is dangerous, although I'm not so sure about the Muslims in the UAE being "fine". They might just be more subtle about it/biding their time.
 
Forget those ones. Even Hasan Piker and Mia Khalifa will fiercely defend their death cult while enjoying a completely haram lifestyle. That should tell you how deeply rooted the sense of tribalism is within Islam. They are in fact more dangerous because of their popularity and reach among non-Muslim normies, than some random Abdul who is pious but keeps to himself.
Isn't Mia Khalifa a Lebonese Christian?
 
Cain Clark, 17, and Caleb Vazquez, 18, allegedly identified as the suspects.

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Her family were Lebanese Christians fleeing from Muslims.
Her family is Catholic
I will take the L on this. I tend to get my Arabs mixed up. Though she still qualifies for the second point (I guess plenty of non-Muslims do) wherein by advocating for Palestine/Hamas/Muslims/whatever using her platform and reach, she's more dangerous in normalizing Islam, despite being a pornstar, than any no-name individual pious Muslim.
 
How exactly are Jews supposed to practice their faith without the temple anyway? Don't they need that to make sacrifices for sins? As far as the laws go, wasn't Jesus preaching to obey the spirit of the law, while saying that ceremonial laws didn't necessarily apply/need to be observed (I think I remember reading about something sourced from the Talmud about the reason for not mixing fabrics had something to do with outfits for pagan rituals for example). Not to mention in a New Covenant it would make sense that issues regarding ceremonial laws would change.

Also, a thought occurred to me recently. Do you really think it's a coincidence that someone claiming to form a New Covenant came along, and within a couple of decades the temple was destroyed and hasn't been rebuilt since? Also didn't Josephus outright admit to working miracles in Antiquities of the Jews?

As far as the thread tax goes, I'll have to agree with the others and say that Ann Coulter's law may be in effect here, and I'm doubting there white here. Also, I agree with your assessment that Islam is dangerous, although I'm not so sure about the Muslims in the UAE being "fine". They might just be more subtle about it/biding their time.
Most of Judeism developed without the temple (temple Judaism lasted less than pre monotheist Israelites beliefs)
 
How exactly are Jews supposed to practice their faith without the temple anyway? Don't they need that to make sacrifices for sins?
Yes and no. Generally, the whole idea of post second temple Judaism (aka what it is now) is that we are keeping The commandments that we can keep without the temple but we are still studying and learning as though there is a temple. Yes, we can't do everything without the temple. That's why the rebuilding of the temple is such a big deal in Judaism. In essence, we're sort of limping along, hoping and praying that the Messiah will return and allow us to rebuild the Temple (or that we can rebuild the temple and the Messiah can return).

That's why after the destruction of the second temple, there only resulted in two major forms of Judaism. You had rabbinical Judaism which is modern Judaism which said that we could still make this work until we build the temple again, and Christianity which outright just rejected the temple being necessary.

Not to derail, but as a Jew you can't practice your faith without the temple, that's like saying I can be an American without the Constitution or the Bill of Rights (ya just can't do it). But you also can't say that a parliamentary democracy is not also a democracy.

My larger point was that while someone who lives under a parliamentary democracy and someone who lives under the American constitutional system might say that each other's way of governance is the proper way of governance. They won't say that each other isn't a democracy (they might get into autism arguments about whether one is a truer democracy than the other, but we're talking generally here). Islam doesn't have that. It's like saying a constitutional monarchy is a democracy. It's not, it's a monarchy, it's a monarchy. You can put all the heirs you want on it, but at the end of the day the monarch still holds absolute power.



As far as the laws go, wasn't Jesus preaching to obey the spirit of the law, while saying that ceremonial laws didn't necessarily apply/need to be observed (I think I remember reading about something sourced from the Talmud about the reason for not mixing fabrics had something to do with outfits for pagan rituals for example). Not to mention in a New Covenant it would make sense that issues regarding ceremonial laws would change.

That Spirit of the law thing in Judaism is a big deal. So the issue with Jesus is that he was saying that certain laws no longer need to be practiced, however, in Judaism we believe that the Torah is the word of God and thus cannot be changed. It can only be interpreted (and ultimately there is a correct interpretation and an incorrect interpretation and through arguments and dissertation and what not. We can come to the proper interpretation within guidelines).

By removing parts of the Torah that invalidates at least in the Judaism the Divinity or the Messianic status of jesus (because how could you be a religious Jew if you're denying laws need to be practiced).

Now in Judaism we don't have the temple so we can't do certain legal obligations. But at no point do we say that those legal obligations are useless, we just don't have the tools to practice them properly so we can't practice them. Also, if I'm correct, the teachings that Jesus said was that certain laws are too hard for people to practice, now under judaism those laws only apply to other Jews so we don't expect the gentile population (non jews) to practice them at all (we only expect the world to practice the 12 laws that God gave Noah after the flood as he gave them to all of humanity).

You if want to follow the teaches of jesus as a non jew, most Jews will have no issue with that because it does not affect the Jew (aka the covenant that we believe God gave to us and the set of rules that God gave us to practice, which include the laws that he gave to Noah after the flood and then everything else). What gets Jews upset is when you try to tell us how to practice our own faith or get in the way of it. Remember Judaism does not have a belief of evangelicalism, you do not need to proselytize to be saved in Judaism. All people are judged to the best of their ability except Jews get extra judged because we were given extra rules to follow.
Also, a thought occurred to me recently. Do you really think it's a coincidence that someone claiming to form a New Covenant came along, and within a couple of decades the temple was destroyed and hasn't been rebuilt since? Also didn't Josephus outright admit to working miracles in Antiquities of the Jews?
This is more an area @Catch The Rainbow could talk about as he knows more about Jewish history and antiquity than I do, but I don't think it's a related coincidence in the way that you're thinking. I think (and again stressing this is my personal belief) it's more of an issue that the Jewish people had lost the plot so fucking badly that we were sent into exile. And that The wider world was so fucked up that they needed some form of "watered down Jewish teachings" (don't take that in a negative, i mean more of the "spirit of the law" ) so Christianity had to exist. What I mean is that if you want people to stop worshiping rocks and fucking dogs, you can't exactly expect them to do all the 613 commandments that God requires the Jews to follow. Most of them don't really have anything to do with morality. My bris doesn't really affect morality, it just serves to remind me that I'm a Jew and that I have a covenant to follow. But the laws the spirit of the laws follow through both religions and that's the most important thing.

I had a rabbi explain it to me this way once, The US Air Force and the US naval Air Force both fly planes, except the difference is that the the naval Air Force is specialized in landing on boats. And you don't need to land on boats to do every mission. You just need to know how to fly.

(Jews in this analogy are the US Navy Air forces and the god fearing righteous gentiles (Christians) would be the US Air Force. A member of the US Air Force doesn't need to know how to land on a carrier because it doesn't effect them or their mission, but a US naval pilot better learn how to land on a carrier because his mission is directly affected by that).

As far as the thread tax goes, I'll have to agree with the others and say that Ann Coulter's law may be in effect here, and I'm doubting there white here. Also, I agree with your assessment that Islam is dangerous, although I'm not so sure about the Muslims in the UAE being "fine". They might just be more subtle about it/biding their time.
The Muslims in the UAE have decided to go all in on being Western. That's why they're partnering with Israel. That's why they're getting close with the United States. That's why they're really pushing this whole thing that they're not "rag head jihadis" remember Dubai is in the UAE, and Dubai is not exactly the most religious city.


@goy menace which parts was I wrong about? Also you're not wrong about what you posted. I mean islam is batshit the more you look at it.
 
This is not a good thing you fucking morons.

Killing innocents will just create more jihadis who will feel the rightfulness on their side to do the same.
You'd be real good to have around during the Reconquista. "Golly gee whiz, don't fight back with force in our lands when our traitorous governments allow them in and refuse to remove them! And geewillikers, don't say things that offend the ragheads, you'll just upset them and then they'll want to attack us even more than they already do, and their communist apologists will call us racist and Nazis, oh no!"
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its hard being a cali latinx boy with his white taco-burning they/them pooner gf
I swear to fucking christ if the next crusade gets popped off by a pooner and a spic, I'm going to be more disappointed when the anti LGBT rallies in Canada were all fucking Muslims. Fuck this gay earth.
 
So I was 50% right. San Diego is pretty much Tijuana 2.

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Ok 75%.
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Ah yeah, this'll be memoryholed real quick. Latino race nationalism in California and other border states, which has been growing in seriousness for decades at this point, is not a can of worms that the media wants to open up. Then they might have to explain the ethnic cleansing spics have performed on niggers in many inner city districts over the last few decades.
The Xitter muslims and mayor of NYC are already screeching about pisslamaphobia.
We're getting a race war but not the one everybody's hoping for. White people are once again just going to sit on the sideline watching the browns kill each other.
 
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