Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[Calandrino]

hat are you learning from your games? If you spent 10,000 hours playing video games, what do you think your expertise would be in? What would you be knowledgable about?

Video games! the world's most interesting topic

 

[Quarterback Rex Grossman]

Lol @ this thread. There is no video game "story" that will ever match what you will find in good, even average novels. There's a reason nobody serious considers games art and it's because they are written by pretentious Jews and programmed by pajeets and men in programming socks.

BUT MUH SONY MOVIE-GAMES! MUH DEEP LORE!

HUMANITY WAS THE REAL ENEMY ALL ALONG!

 

[The Ugly One]

I remember before I quit playing video games about 15-20 years ago, they were already so good that I would turn on Call of Duty and think I am going to play for a few minutes and then before I knew it, 8 hours had gone by. Its like what I imagine a crack binge must be like.

I remember when I made a conscious decision to disconnect from the bullshit of real life and just play video games. I had the best years of my life and wish I could go back, but they introduced SBMM and AI-censored chat.

 

[Dead Lion]

Great films helped people overcome psychological problems

So did games. For a while too, ultima 4 apparently helped a girl get through depression back in the day.

I’m not even sure how to properly start comparing cgs or 3d graphics with actors who convey their emotions through their performance..

You compare it to animation instead. Or are animated movies not art as well to you?

That's like saying an interior of a church or mosque can be compared to a scene in Maya. Painting can tell a story about a person's life or history of a country. where do videogames fit here? you can't play those things.

Neither can you listen to a painting or read a pice of music. All forms of art are experienced differently and use different tools to convey their meaning. Games can do things that no other art form can do, at least not well. Same with every other.

You misread my whole post, hand drawn art isn't the same as a bunch of pixels.

So digital art drawn using modern tools like krita or ilustrator isn't the same as hand drawn art because why? How far does this go have I actually never read half the books i did becouse I read them as an E-Book rather than proper paper?

I have no idea why internet chippies feel the need to assert just how much of an art computer programs can be, or why they don't really waste their time like druggies when playing their Steam library. Entertainment is basically a waste of time by definition, games have been around for centuries.

I feel very passionate about games-as-art and want them to recive the recognition they deserve. The thread about video game opinios will have people passionate about video games, go figure. I could ask why the other side of the barricade feels the need to assert that they aren't since at the end of the day aesthetics is probably the least important part of philosophy. From an extrmely utilitarian point of view all art has no fuction and is a waste of time and resources. Imagine if all the money that wen't into the film industry went to feeding children instead.

 

[The Last Stand]

I have no idea why internet chippies feel the need to assert just how much of an art computer programs can be,

Art direction can sell or hinder your experience in video games.

I'll provide an example with two Need for Speed games:



Underground is inspired by "tuner" car culture, e.g. The Fast and the Furious. So, you'll need neofuturistic, techno elements and a nightly atmosphere to illustrate that era.



Most Wanted (2005) goes for a different aesthetic: dusty, industrial street racing, so you'd need browns and smearing to showcase the scenery.

They're both racing games in the same series, but thanks to their art direction, they give a different vibe.

 

[TheVoodooThatJewDo]

We get it, you don't care for video games. All well and good, but you don't have to be pretentious about it like a certain somebody.

Did I misread the title of this thread?

 

[DumbDude43]

No, the fact that people compare commercial entertainment software designed by the likes of David Jaffe with cinema or books says a lot about their taste.

100% of cinema/tv and 99% of books are commercial entertainment media just like video games.

video games (depending on genre) can require quite a lot of mental effort to play, and involve learning, training, and exercising various cognitive skills like hand/eye coordination, reaction speed, short and long term memory, problem solving, reading comprehension, math, etc.
books also work some cognitive skills (reading comprehension, concentration, focus, long attention span) and depending on what you read they can contain heaps of valuable real world information.
by contrast, movies and tv offer no cognitive engagement and no real value or utility at all beyond entertainment, it's just purely passive media consumption.

 

[TheVoodooThatJewDo]

So ONE series, a series that caters to the lowest common denominator at that, shaped your self-absorbed viewpoint on video games? Good to know.

I gave one example, so that must be the sum total of my gaming experience. Yep that's that gamer logic for you.

What do you think art is? Imagining that the portrait you're looking at is real, and getting a hit of nostalgia or amazement at it. Fits video games like a glove. You also get nothing material out of looking at them.

Hell, a lot of what we call "high art" was just religious or political propaganda to serve the local rulers. So the next time someone whines about a game or show being woke to serve certain agendas in power, that wouldn't be necessarily new. It's just that the skill level and subtlety are missing.

I'm not saying movies/art are great. I think the jews were onto something with their prohibition of the 'graven image' in Exodus. They have always known the power of the image and you can see it today in how everyone is being reduced to idiots via our image-based society.
That being said, I still think video games are another step downwards towards us becoming total mindless cogs.

 

[DumbDude43]

nobody serious considers games art

have you seen the things that 'serious people' consider art though

 

[The Last Stand]

Did I misread the title of this thread?

Your opinion is belittling people that love to engage in the hobby. You're no better than people who hate sports yet want to share that with people that love sports. "Why do you watch sportsball, there's other things to watch? Why not watch a play or a documentary?!"

That being said, I still think video games are another step downwards towards us becoming total mindless cogs.

Case in point.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I'm not saying movies/art are great. I think the jews were onto something with their prohibition of the 'graven image' in Exodus. They have always known the power of the image and you can see it today in how everyone is being reduced to idiots via our image-based society.
That being said, I still think video games are another step downwards towards us becoming total mindless cogs.

The Jews still had statues of angels inside the temple. Try again.

Also, you had people who were reduced to total mindless cogs in the 1800s who checked into work, worked their asses off for a pittance, and died without the comforts you take for granted today.

 

[TheVoodooThatJewDo]

To add to the dogpile, why compare entirely disparate mediums in the first place?

Because comparing the two helps me avoid stupid addictive video games and read books instead. And because this thread is for unpopular opinions about video games. Oh and because I believe what I am saying. What's wrong with comparing mediums? If a new medium comes along, we shouldn't ask how is this better or worse than previous ones? What are the effects of the medium on society? Does the medium generally require a lot of technological sophistication so that only rich evil fucks can make "good" games that appeal to the masses?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Because comparing the two helps me avoid stupid addictive video games and read books instead. And because this thread is for unpopular opinions about video games. Oh and because I believe what I am saying. What's wrong with comparing mediums? If a new medium comes along, we shouldn't ask how is this better or worse than previous ones? What are the effects of the medium on society? Does the medium generally require a lot of technological sophistication so that only rich evil fucks can make "good" games that appeal to the masses?

Because it's objectively wrong. For every Great Gatsby or Lord of the Rings, you have smut fiction made for middle-aged women that make most games seem clean by comparison. Hell, ASOIAF straddles the line between complex political thriller and food porn.

 

[Achtung Bitter]

So did games. For a while too, ultima 4 apparently helped a girl get through depression back in the day.

I agree, if you put them in the context of a product for teens/kids.

You compare it to animation instead. Or are animated movies not art as well to you?

I don't compare anime or any cartoons with Bosch, sorry.

Neither can you listen to a painting or read a pice of music. All forms of art are experienced differently and use different tools to convey their meaning. Games can do things that no other art form can do, at least not well. Same with every other.

I don't need to listen to paintings or read music. There's literally nothing comparable computer programs could possibly provide.

So digital art drawn using modern tools like krita or ilustrator isn't the same as hand drawn art because why? How far does this go have I actually never read half the books i did becouse I read them as an E-Book rather than proper paper?

Sorry, that's simply dense. Reading ebooks is just inconvenient, putting hand drawn painting, dolls or tools even against a computer is crazy. That's like saying travelling is the same as watching 3d Google maps.

I feel very passionate about games-as-art and want them to recive the recognition they deserve. The thread about video game opinios will have people passionate about video games, go figure. I could ask why the other side of the barricade feels the need to assert that they aren't since at the end of the day aesthetics is probably the least important part of philosophy. From an extrmely utilitarian point of view all art has no fuction and is a waste of time and resources. Imagine if all the money that wen't into the film industry went to feeding children instead.

Nobody did that 'on the other side of the barricade'. Someone put his view, I commented,

Art direction can sell or hinder your experience in video games.

Yeah. I was talking art as in some spiritual experience, as opposed to consuming a feed of images from a TV.



Oh and cunt of monte cristo, keep clicking away those negrates. Might become true one day.

 

[TheVoodooThatJewDo]

Usually, most readers are forced to read books for a class they couldn't care for, and they forget damn near everything they read. I've seen students even fail basic questions when the book that has all the answers is right in front of them

Yes... the masters largely want to ruin reading/education and make the dazzling, spectacular distractions that turn your brain into mush as appealing as possible.

 

[The Last Stand]

Yeah. I was talking art as in some spiritual experience, as opposed to consuming a feed of images from a TV.

What? I don't play video games to discover a "spiritual awakening" or what have you.

 

[Achtung Bitter]

100% of cinema/tv and 99% of books are commercial entertainment media just like video games.

video games (depending on genre) can require quite a lot of mental effort to play, and involve learning,

Even films like Night of the hunter is not entertainment, it's comparable to half decent theatre. Whereas video games are ultimately toys.

 

[TheVoodooThatJewDo]

Your opinion is belittling people that love to engage in the hobby. You're no better than people who hate sports yet want to share that with people that love sports. "Why do you watch sportsball, there's other things to watch? Why not watch a play or a documentary?!"


Case in point.

You're shaming my love of debate, because I shamed your love of playing make believe in a virtual world.
I think debate is important, even if people sometimes feel belittled because someone has a different opinion. Do I seem like I am really looking down on gamers when I myself said I used to play video games? Hate the sin, love the sinner.
Also, sports are pretty gay. And I say that as someone who watches UFC a fair bit. Maybe being able to handle cognitive dissonance like this (rather than ignoring feelings/thoughts that go against what we enjoy) allows us to be more honest with ourselves and eventually change?

 

[Achtung Bitter]

What? I don't play video games to discover a "spiritual awakening" or what have you.

No, I don't. That's the point, videogames are awesome, fun, beautiful even. But they''re ultimately a waste of time, a very fun waste of time. I wasted years of my life on them.

 

[The Ugly One]

Your opinion is belittling people that love to engage in the hobby.

Sounds like his opinion about video games is...unpopular.