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Honestly people need to stfu about gas and start working hard to not depending on the middle east or any other single point of failure about this shit.
My arbitrary goal is 70% domestic production for domestic consumption. If you can do more effectively great, but if you can't, that's sustainably importable. If every non-domestic source caught fire at the same time, 70% is still within "ration and reduce" range without destroying most industries. Losing 30% of the fast fashion supply would probably be good for breaking shopping addictions. Most people would be fine on 70% of the calories they eat, on average, just by how fucking fat the population is. Durable goods won't even notice losing 30% of supply for the first year. And anything that's industrial feedstock rolls down to that 30% on the consumer side regardless.

But you want that 70% minimum for EVERYTHING. Every major chemical supply chain, every major good category, every major industrial metal and feedstock. America has the deposits and workforce to do it if they really cared to. Realistically, there's a lot of room for the demand side to decline too, while capitalism bad consoomer seething is overblown, it does come from a valid position. It wouldn't be so bad if most of it was consumption employing locals.

And that 30% foreign supply provides abundant market variety and niches to explore.
 
There's very advanced racist theories as to why Scandies didn't make the cut as White, which is interesting because he lived with Swedes and Germans.

The biggest and most prominent one comes from I think some Danish state document where they claim to have a population "Thralls" that don't exist by the time of modernity. You know, slaves. The working theory is that these were halflings, children born of concubinage or with one foreign parent, you know Mischlings, and that they were sent to Pennsylvannia for the Scandinavia countries to get rid of them.

But I think the truth is much simpler than this, if you put the Swedish or southern German person in the Sun, he gets a lot more bronze than a Saxon does. So Benjamin Franklin looked upon the Bavarians and Swedes who were shitting up Pennsylvannia and said, "look at those brown ass swarthniggers", and he was correct.
To not mince words, let's just plainly say that Benjamin Franklin was himself White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and was a fan of them as a whole.

From Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, 1751:
In fine, A Nation well regulated is like a Polypus; take away a Limb, its Place is soon supply’d; cut it in two, and each deficient Part shall speedily grow out of the Part remaining.4 Thus if you have Room and Subsistence enough, as you may by dividing, make ten Polypes out of one, you may of one make ten Nations, equally populous and powerful; or rather, increase a Nation ten fold in Numbers and Strength.5

And since Detachments of English from Britain sent to America, will have their Places at Home so soon supply’d and increase so largely here; why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

24. Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

From Letter from Benjamin Franklin to Peter Collinson (1753):
I have often observed with wonder, that Temper of the poor English Manufacturers and day Labourers which you mention, and acknowledge it to be pretty general. When any of them happen to come here, where Labour is much better paid than in England, their Industry seems to diminish in equal proportion. But it is not so with the German Labourers; They retain the habitual Industry and Frugality they bring with them, and now receiving higher Wages an accumulation arises that makes them all rich.

When I consider, that the English are the Offspring of Germans, that the Climate they live in is much of the same Temperature; when I can see nothing in Nature that should create this Difference, I am apt to suspect it must arise from Institution, and I have sometimes doubted, whether the Laws peculiar to England which compel the Rich to maintain the Poor, have not given the latter, a Dependance that very much lessens the care of providing against the wants of old Age.

I have heard it remarked that the Poor in Protestant Countries on the Continent of Europe, are generally more industrious than those of Popish Countries, may not the more numerous foundations in the latter for the relief of the poor have some effect towards rendering them less provident. To relieve the misfortunes of our fellow creatures is concurring with the Deity, ’tis Godlike, but if we provide encouragements for Laziness, and supports for Folly, may it not be found fighting against the order of God and Nature, which perhaps has appointed Want and Misery as the proper Punishments for, and Cautions against as well as necessary consequences of Idleness and Extravagancy.
I am perfectly of your mind, that measures of great Temper are necessary with the Germans: and am not without Apprehensions, that thro’ their indiscretion or Ours, or both, great disorders and inconveniences may one day arise among us; Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation, and as Ignorance is often attended with Credulity when Knavery would mislead it, and with Suspicion when Honesty would set it right; and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain. Their own Clergy have very little influence over the people; who seem to take an uncommon pleasure in abusing and discharging the Minister on every trivial occasion. Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it; and as Kolben says of the young Hottentots, that they are not esteemed men till they have shewn their manhood by beating their mothers, so these seem to think themselves not free, till they can feel their liberty in abusing and insulting their Teachers. Thus they are under no restraint of Ecclesiastical Government; They behave, however, submissively enough at present to the Civil Government which I wish they may continue to do: For I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties; Few of their children in the Country learn English; they import many Books from Germany; and of the six printing houses in the Province, two are entirely German, two half German half English, and but two entirely English; They have one German News-paper, and one half German. Advertisements intended to be general are now printed in Dutch and English; the Signs in our Streets have inscriptions in both languages, and in some places only German: They begin of late to make all their Bonds and other legal Writings in their own Language, which (though I think it ought not to be) are allowed good in our Courts, where the German Business so encreases that there is continual need of Interpreters; and I suppose in a few years they will be also necessary in the Assembly, to tell one half of our Legislators what the other half say; In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious. The French who watch all advantages, are now themselves making a German settlement back of us in the Ilinoes Country, and by means of those Germans they may in time come to an understanding with ours, and indeed in the last war our Germans shewed a general disposition that seems to bode us no good; for when the English who were not Quakers, alarmed by the danger arising from the defenceless state of our Country entered unanimously into an Association within this Government and the lower Countries raised armed and Disciplined near 10,000 men, the Germans except a very few in proportion to their numbers refused to engage in it, giving out one among another, and even in print, that if they were quiet the French should they take the Country would not molest them; at the same time abusing the Philadelphians for fitting out Privateers against the Enemy; and representing the trouble hazard and Expence of defending the Province, as a greater inconvenience than any that might be expected from a change of Government. Yet I am not for refusing entirely to admit them into our Colonies: all that seems to be necessary is, to distribute them more equally, mix them with the English, establish English Schools where they are now too thick settled, and take some care to prevent the practice lately fallen into by some of the Ship Owners, of sweeping the German Goals to make up the number of their Passengers. I say I am not against the Admission of Germans in general, for they have their Virtues, their industry and frugality is exemplary; They are excellent husbandmen and contribute greatly to the improvement of a Country.

I pray God long to preserve to Great Britain the English Laws, Manners, Liberties and Religion notwithstanding the complaints so frequent in Your public papers, of the prevailing corruption and degeneracy of your People; I know you have a great deal of Virtue still subsisting among you, and I hope the Constitution is not so near a dissolution, as some seem to apprehend; I do not think you are generally become such Slaves to your Vices, as to draw down that Justice Milton speaks of when he says that
 
lmao ICE at the airports in atlanta looks EXACTLY how you think it would, everyone in frame is angry as all hell
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I think ICE at the airports is actually a great idea optically. Shows that ICE is willing to help keep people's everyday lives moving and will result in alot of normies having actual normal interactions with them instead of inflamed headlines from shitlib panic story of the day.
 
Most industrial mining gets sulfur as a byproduct. Sincerely the acid rain problem was solved when people realized they were letting money go up the chimney.

If you mine copper or gold, a byproduct is selling sulfuric acid and rare earth elements.

The issue with the strait is more that Arabs do not give a shit about environmental shit and will happily kill a hippie. The issue as time goes on is how intertwined most countries are because it’s technically cheaper to shell peanuts in some SEA shithole than shell peanuts in the USA. I am not joking, that’s shit that happens.
 
you both right and wrong at the same time, in your anger about the situation your accidentally trivialized it and I dont blame you, 99% of Americans do including our elected leaders and supposed buisness tycoons.

60-70 years ago some "genius" in a boardroom somewhere in America pulled out a chart and we dont know exactly what that chart looked like but ive made an artist rendition after 1,000 hours in paint
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and instead of beating the man with chairs, they all applauded. Im using some dumb comedy to make the point but the nuts and bolts meant American company payed OTHER COUNTRIES to develop their industrial base in order to undercut our own nations industrial base beacuse they would make a profit in the process.

do you see the fuckers trade they made? so now we are 60 odd years removed from that starting and that country has eclipsed us completely on the manufacturing front, I ASK YOU HUMBLY, how do you compete with that?

sure we could start making 20 gallium refineries right now but who is going to buy it? everything from the raw materials gathering to the transport will be 10x the price of the china company is the government just going to subsidize all American business to sell at lower rates than china while also trying to develop said homegrown industry?

in korea they have shipyards that make 1 huge container ship a week, in the usa we make 3 ships A YEAR TOTAL!

its kinda disgusting the more you read about it, never has a generation sacrificed so much for so little
This is happening to white collar work as well. Everyone already knows the memes about Indian people, they saw the Starfield credits reel.

Part of the problem is that the rest of the world is approaching parity with American living standards which means it's more difficult for the over-class to maintain their untouchable status. Large hoards of wealth and influence are the only reason America does not constantly erupt into war and violence like pretty much ever landmass of similar size. That wealth is based entirely on banking cartels creating money out of nothing in order to perform Jewish tricks with debt (also known as interest.) They're staving it off a little by importing brown people who drown in debt, don't pay it and surrender it to the Federal Reserve, who dumps it into a big computer that somehow makes them richer.

We don't actually know what happens when the Jewish debt-magic singularity occurs yet. We saw how bad it can get in places like the Weimar Republic, but that was hijacked by a bunch of nationalists who decided to stick knives in 200 major political figures and hire Hugo Boss. It could be balkanization. You might actually live to see a New California Republic.
 
To not mince words, let's just plainly say that Benjamin Franklin was himself White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and was a fan of them as a whole.
I was responding to the person who asked why Swedes didn't make the cut

Why would I tell them the theories about Ben Franklin, if I did not know Ben Franklin? :story:
There have been thinkers since Benjamin Franklin, racists, who wanted to know why Swedes didn't get counted as White, when Ben Franklin lived with Swedes and Bavarians. And the theory is that the Swedes who came to Pennsylvannia were in fact SWARTHY, and could've even been mischlings or mixlings or halflings. Whatever you want to call them. Thralls that the Swedes dumped here in Pennsylvannia.
 
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In somewhat minor but amusing American political news:
An Indian (born in Texas) Democrat candidate running for Congress in California was endorsed by a drag queen.

 
I think ICE at the airports is actually a great idea optically. Shows that ICE is willing to help keep people's everyday lives moving and will result in alot of normies having actual normal interactions with them instead of inflamed headlines from shitlib panic story of the day.
Especially given reports I've seen so far that they're rather drastically reducing wait times at the security checkpoints and it's going much more smoothly. That's something that impacts millions of travelers per year. Even if ICE is only involved for a week, people are going to remember how nice, easy and smooth air travel was in the US that one time ICE helped out for a week. That'll stay with people a long time (especially the ones who have to keep traveling once ICE is done and the TSA fuckwits resume "normal" operations).
 
To not mince words, let's just plainly say that Benjamin Franklin was himself White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and was a fan of them as a whole.

From Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, 1751:
I think this is this article that covers it, and shockingly enough, this piece of "race realist" literature was written by a progressive. :story:

Nathaniel Weyl's article "Benjamin Franklin and Restrictive Immigration" (The Mankind Quarterly, Vol. 10, No. 4, April–June 1970, pp. 213

Unforunately I only have a partial quote because of the paywall:
"The Germans and Swedes whom Franklin encountered were the descendants of thralls, rather than of jarls and karls. The thrall child, according to the Rigsrnal or Elder Edda, had 'swarthy skin ..., fingers thick, a [broad face]... [bent back] [long heels]'"

 
On the structural trap: "Sulfur is overwhelmingly a byproduct of processing sour natural gas and crude oil, not a commodity that can be scaled independently in a defense emergency." To sneedsplain: You can't just mine more sulfur nearly as easily. It comes out when you refine oil. If the oil isn't moving, the sulfur isn't either. Sure you can make it from Gypsum but that's a mess and expensive.

The part that makes my eyes bleed: Only 6% of US defense contractors have fully transparent supply chains.

This was authored by Jahara Matisek, a Chairforce sperg who happens to be the Dean of Academics at the U.S. Naval War College. Command pilot with 3,700 hours, 120+ published articles, and fellowships at 6 institutions. He probably knows what he's talking about.

Logistics win wars, full stop. EVERYONE'S logistics are slowly approaching fucked with turbo-fucked as a possibility, so that's a silver lining. Nobody's going to be able to make more weapons for a while. The USA is almost certainly the most resilient and able to pull something out of its ass, so we might pull ahead if we manage this correctly. Unfortunately, I don't know if the bureaucrats are going to do this on their own, or if someone tells Trump to yell at them about it, because Trump isn't a chem nerd, he's a real estate guy and a deal maker.

Another brilliant reason why Venezuela was secured before the war began, and the US gained total control over their extremely sour crude. Although it will take years to reverse the damage caused by the Chavistas, Venezuelan oil exports are increasing every month.
 
Another brilliant reason why Venezuela was secured before the war began, and the US gained total control over their extremely sour crude. Although it will take years to reverse the damage caused by the Chavistas, Venezuelan oil exports are increasing every month.

I'm still not sure if Trump's just lucky, or "anyone who did things at all would do the same", or he's just playing us all.
 
Another brilliant reason why Venezuela was secured before the war began, and the US gained total control over their extremely sour crude. Although it will take years to reverse the damage caused by the Chavistas, Venezuelan oil exports are increasing every month.
The US exports tons of heavy crude (that's the stuff that's hard to process), we would not remove Maduro for something we have in droves, and Venezuela is primarily a nation rich in natural gas. Grand ideas about "US control of Venezuela" while the Chavistas were left in place are not just optimistic, it doesn't make sense when you actually think critically about the nations you're talking about, for more than two seconds.
 
The US exports tons of heavy crude (that's the stuff that's hard to process), we would not remove Maduro for something we have in droves, and Venezuela is primarily a nation rich in natural gas. Grand ideas about "US control of Venezuela" while the Chavistas were left in place is not just fucking stupid on it's face, it doesn't make sense when you actually think critically about the nations you're talking about, for more than two seconds.

Other way around. The US exports mostly lighter crude and imports heavy crude, such as the Alberta tar sands. The Gulf refineries are some of the few places on earth that can refine oil that shitty.

I'll get concerned about the grand Chavista counterplay when they stop bowing to every single demand the US State department gives them.
 
The demand was unconditional surrender. You don't negotiate an unconditional surrender. Having to negotiate after making that demand is the surrender.

I expect to get tons of replies from people pretending not to understand just like the meme.
Gee nigger its almost like that was part of Trumps lifetime go to strategy 'the big ask' which you can read all about in his best selling books.
 
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