Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

I hope we end up pulling out of NATO, should have happened years ago. Fuck eurocucks, tired of paying for their defense.
I disagree. While I do agree that we need to twist the arms of the Euros in order to make them pay their fair share (or give us more latitude to do what we want/must do aka Greenland). Nato is beneficial to all parties. For the United States, it gives us more opportunities to train and a broader reach internationally than we probably wouldn't have otherwise. Furthermore, what NATO countries end up doing is specializing in particular areas, Nordic nations tend to be very good at mountain warfare for example. This allows our troops and our large military system to have a better integration in case of wartime. This is seen perfectly with the current operations against Iran. Israel in the United States after decades of training and weapon, sales and cooperation are able to conduct a highly complex aerial campaign against an entire country, it's regional proxies, and engage in air sector defense all the same time. Such cooperation would be impossible without decades of integration and co-training, mutual assistance and funding.

The USA being in NATO allows us also to shape how NATO works. To quote. Joe Biden " without the United States, there is no moral center in Europe" he said this in regards to the US bombing Serbia and he's right. Look at the current situation Europe right now. When it comes to the Arabs and the Muslims they won't do anything even though it's fairly obvious they probably should, if only to secure safe international trade.

Domestically NATO has some benefits too. It keeps American jobs and keeps our economy afloat, right now as it stands, we are the default standard when it comes to nato, munitions and armament. The French can do their own thing but that leaves the French in a supply situation. However, when the polls need to buy tanks, they need to buy it from America because we have the most tanks and we can provide the equipment at a good price quickly. This means that they also need to buy American munitions and American tank parts. Anything that keeps a tank working (which is a lot), this means that American manufacturing jobs in the state of Arkansas get to continue to exist. And I don't need to go into the positive effect this has on local, state, regional, and federal economies.

Furthermore, it allows for resource sharing which is very important. Take Israel for example, the Israelis use our equipment and they test our equipment and they provide feedback on the equipment. They also develop better avionics and they're involved in the development of systems within the f-35 and the F-16 platforms. This then ensures that we have the bleeding, edge, technology and real world experience that will allow us to keep military edge against our adversaries such as the Chinese.

If we didn't have NATO, then there'd be fewer flight hours, which means fewer opportunities to test, develop and troubleshoot new technologies.

And finally, it keeps the Russians from doing anything fucking stupid and it keeps the Turks from also doing anything stupid.


My only issue with NATO is that the countries need to do their treaty obligations that's all. Stop giving money to fucking Arab refugees that they are allowing in and fucking give more money to build tanks.
 
I hope we end up pulling out of NATO, should have happened years ago. Fuck eurocucks, tired of paying for their defense.
Political and military foresight of a Mole.

However, European countries should hurry the fuck up. It's a shame that decades were lost of actually forming a proper joint doctrine and training regime. Distancing themselves from the US was a grave mistake. Hope at least there they will do an U-turn.

The Wars in the Middle East did also distract way too many resources and minds for a kind of warfare that's basically irrelevant by now. Anyways, it will need 10-20 years for militaries in European countries to actually catch up on investment, training and mindset. That's a long time nowadays with everything heating up close to the boiling point.
 
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MTN is in Iran through its 49% stake in MTN-Irancell, Iran's second-largest mobile network,
MTN Group is facing significant legal challenges in the US, including a Department of Justice (DoJ) investigation and civil lawsuits under the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) regarding alleged business dealings in Iran. (might be late)

Ahh

Edit: I wonder how cheap the cell towers will be at the end of this, the ones that survive at least.
 
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If you wanted European men to go die for ZOG so bad maybe you shouldn’t have spent your whole term insulting them and threatening to invade Greenland.
The number of people completely missing the point of Trumps call is actually starting to become concerning.
 
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It is very telling they haven't cut the undersea cables, so easy to do (unless i missed a report). The IRGC is in an existential war, so even though it was retarded to attack everyone with limited missiles, why not go balls to the wall?! In for a penny, in for a pound.
The problem of "why don't they just do X???" is twofold:
1) Capabilities (of both sides)
2) Fog of war

Some questions; i.e. "why doesn't the US just fire conventional ICBMs at all of Iran's Shaheds on the ground?!?!" or "why doesn't Iran just land paratroopers in Tel Aviv?!?!" would obviously be obnoxiously easy to explain why.

Others require a lot of "well maybe" and "depends how".

Problem with the undersea cables question is the following questions:
1) What tools does Iran have capable of cutting them?
Conventional submarines? Assymetric midget submarines? Divers? Underwater drones?

We know what Iran has but we don't know their ability to actually get to depth and actually sever the cables.

2) How much of those assets survived the opening strike? Allegedly the US opened with an attack on enclosed facilities where Iran's midget subs were being housed, but can we verify this for sure?
What is the condition of the port facilities used to launch these things? Do they need a small marina? Or a large crane? Can the USVs be launched from the shore like Ukrainian ones?

3) What US assets are currently in the strait? Can they get to the cables without getting a visit from a SH-60R LAMPS III? What if there is a Virginia class pointing a torpedo in your face? What USVs is the US "testing" in the strait?

There's simply too many variables to know at this moment.

In general, operations like this aren't like RTS games. You can't just press a button in Tehran and boom, that's it, cables are cut. You actually have to task a unit with the mission of carrying out a cable cutting operation.
 
Joe Kent, DNI's CTCO Chair:
After much reflection, I have decided to resign from my position as Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, effective today.I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.It has been an honor serving under @POTUS and @DNIGabbard and leading the professionals at NCTC. May God bless America.


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"lost my beloved wife Shannon in a war manufactured by Israel"
>he thinks Israel manufactured the Syrian civil war

Good riddance.
 
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