Serious LGBT Discussion

Because human beings sexually reproduce. That's what the entire basis of sexuality is built on, reproduction. Just like how we eat food to sustain ourselves. It becomes more deeply nuanced than just reproduction in practice, just like how preparing good and interesting food is a lot more nuanced than a simple matter of sustenance. Being attracted to a member of the same sex is comparatively like saying you like to eat shit. It's a total reversal of the very purpose of why that behavior exists in the first place. Shocker, doing so has deep negative consequences for the human psyche and health as has been clearly demonstrated with example after example time and time again throughout history, culture, and this very thread.
That, or I would hope you weren't asking why not being attracted to adults is insane.
 
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Being attracted to a member of the same sex is comparatively like saying you like to eat shit. It's a total reversal of the very purpose of why that behavior exists in the first place. Shocker, doing so has deep negative consequences for the human psyche and health as has been clearly demonstrated with example after example time and time again throughout history, culture, and this very thread.
I find your scatological comparison absolutely moronic.

The purpose of the behaviour in relatively intelligent creatures in regards to living with someone you enjoy being with, is not damaging to human psyche and health. I get that its main evolutional purpose is reproduction, but as someone with intelligent thought, you can decide how to live your life, and you can find someone of the same sex attractive (if that's how your brain works), not always just because of how they look, but also because of how they are and behave.

Your examples don't show causation or deep correlation in regards to being attracted to the same sex & negative consequences, this means that someone can be happy while living like that, bypassing your made up rule & trust in evolution (which often leads to retarded and problematic scenarios, where your life will be so much worse).

Turns out you can be happy if you live with someone you enjoy being with, even if you're attracted to them and they're of the same sex. You know, instead of living one of the many iterations of a boring (and broken) heterosexual marriage that happens so very often, that has for centuries turned into a stereotype for a reason.
 
The purpose of the behaviour in relatively intelligent creatures in regards to living with someone you enjoy being with, is not damaging to human psyche and health.

If feeding your miswired reproductive instincts is not damaging to human psyche and health, then why do gays, statistically speaking, have worse outcomes than straights, when it comes to both physical and mental health, even in places that are very affirming to gays? Why is it that's the case even when it's adjusted for variables like anti-gay attitudes or mistreatment?
 
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If feeding your miswired reproductive instincts is not damaging to human psyche and health, then why do gays, statistically speaking, have worse outcomes than straights, when it comes to both physical and mental health, even in places that are very affirming to gays? Why is it that's the case even when it's adjusted for variables like anti-gay attitudes or mistreatment?
Not going to search for "studies" on this and poste here, but you have to provide why that's the case beyond circumstantial factors. Why does being attracted to someone of the opposite sex would have a direct negative impact on someone's psyche and mental health?

The point is you can be happy in such relationship, and there is nothing stopping someone from this beyond circumstantial shit. Being content with this dynamic (having a loving & stable relationship with someone you like, that's of the same sex) is not an outlier that goes against your supposed: homosexuality (cause/trigger) >>> mental damage (effect).

And if that's the case, you then need to say why happy homosexual relationships can exist, despite this phenomenon. What changes in those that allow them to be happy and without damage to their health?

You can answer if you want as I don't care, but most of this is rhetorical, I am not convinced that there is a direct correlation between these, and am aware of such relationships being perfectly fine, when the people commit to a serious one. So maybe that's the element you're looking for, when your sample size doesn't indulge in debauchery with random people, and instead commits to a long-term, loyal dynamic, then you can have a happy life with your partner, despite of their biological sex.
 
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Not going to search for "studies" on this and poste here, but you have to provide why that's the case beyond circumstantial factors. Why does being attracted to someone of the opposite sex would have a direct negative impact on someone's psyche and mental health?

Because you are attracted to an inherently self-defeating practice, and in indulging in such behavior, you strengthen those neuropathways.

This argument only reinforces my perception that the LGB are in denial of the inherent differences between the sexes almost as much as troons are. And for slightly different reasons.

The point is you can be happy in such relationship, and there is nothing stopping someone from this beyond circumstantial shit. Being content with this dynamic (having a loving & stable relationship with someone you like, that's of the same sex) is not an outlier that goes against your supposed: homosexuality (cause/trigger) >>> mental damage (effect).

And if that's the case, you then need to say why happy homosexual relationships can exist, despite this phenomenon. What changes in those that allow them to be happy and without damage to their health?

You can answer if you want as I don't care, but most of this is rhetorical, I am not convinced that there is a direct correlation between these, and am aware of such relationships being perfectly fine, when the people commit to a serious one. So maybe that's the element you're looking for, when your sample size doesn't indulge in debauchery with random people, and instead commits to a long-term, loyal dynamic, then you can have a happy life with your partner, despite of their biological sex.

And why do you say these questions are rhetorical?

Theoretically, someone can be happy even when indulging in something deeply unhealthy, something strongly connected to poorer outcomes and mental health, like porn consumption, heavy alcohol consumption, recreational drug use, polyamory, etc. That doesn't disprove the point that it's much easier to find happiness and fulfillment WITHOUT those things, and it's not up to the rest of society to affirm you in something that isn't conducive to happiness or well-being.
 
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That doesn't disprove the point that it's much easier to find happiness and fulfillment WITHOUT those things, and it's not up to the rest of society to affirm you in something that isn't conducive to happiness or well-being.
We let people drink, jizz, and eat themselves to death with entire industries and regulatory structures meant to facilitate that. On top of it, we have a medical industry that is meant to prolong their doomed existence at exorbitant prices. Letting people pursue same-sex relationships under the provision that they do not break any other laws is quite innocuous compared to that. Unlike your favorite vices, being able to pursue a sustained relationship is quite essential to life satisfaction, but I doubt that you understand that.
Because human beings sexually reproduce. That's what the entire basis of sexuality is built on, reproduction.
Stop jerking off to cartoon dinosaurs, faggot.
 
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Because you are attracted to an inherently self-defeating practice, and in indulging in such behavior, you strengthen those neuropathways.
So many people believe that they're machines of iron that need to "blow off some steam" from time to time, instead of creatures of habit who need to practice virtue and abstain from vice.

It's remarkable how many draw some arbitrary line in the sand between this anti-teleological orgasm-hack and that anti-teleological orgasm-hack.
 
'well gay people aren't a big problem compared to the biggest problems in the world so checkmate' :smug:
'also having on average hundreds of sexual partners over your lifetime and continual problems with domestic abuse are the kinds of sustained relationships essential to life satisfaction you will never have so checkmate' :smug: (paraphrased)
The sophisticated argumentation one should expect from a highly educated Brazilian such as himself.
 
We let people drink, jizz, and eat themselves to death with entire industries and regulatory structures meant to facilitate that. On top of it, we have a medical industry that is meant to prolong their doomed existence at exorbitant prices. Letting people pursue same-sex relationships under the provision that they do not break any other laws is quite innocuous compared to that. Unlike your favorite vices, being able to pursue a sustained relationship is quite essential to life satisfaction, but I doubt that you understand that.
i agree with part of your point, however, since this site is one of the only places that allows it, let's start with the bomb. being gay alone is a mental illness. dealable, not as bad as kids being born with Epidermolysis Bullosa, but it's clearly *wrong* due to the species natural order. which also leads into it generally not being the only thing, and has other psychological factors that influence going full retard/degen, or whatever you'd like to call it, that, along with general free love and same "prison gays" banging women, led to among other things the aids epidemic blowing up so bad in the us, which, without pushed propaganda, was so bad in the us because straight up "gays don't want to fuck just 2 or 3 men they know, they want orgies with john rotdick, with small cuts on rear". people with signs or publically saying "please, please just limit orgies to controllable levels with people you kind of know or screen" was/is still considered homophobic.

it's one of the problems with the gay community, alone, JUST the l and g. the "basically a female and male but in 2 male bodies" is the exception, and you can't allow just that without the deviancy even pretroon, the unhinged gangbangs and pride parade shit. which means if nothing else at all, you just have permanent increased sti vectors, and nobody wants to or can put a boot down to force not being that tier of degen, because it's "behind closed doors" so you have people that leave those doors with new and interesting diseases, that spread to others even through public restrooms etc. there's also tons of psychological problems that nobody wants to talk about or glorifies like forcing kids to have 2 dads, if the child is not further at physical risk, which stats show otherwise but nobody talks about.

but if we ignore the horde of disease and hedonists til death in 30s, then we also reach the modern day problem documented throughout this site of EVERYTHING needing to be molded to majority gay groups. again, not bill and jeff, a nice gay couple you know, but the majority. you have to let transbians breastfeed their child hrt-infused man milk and scientists have to say that's great, that you can starfish your dick and scientists say that's great, that a woman can take more chems than your average wwe wrestler and not fuck their body up beyond repair. "behind closed doors" has turned into a problem people just have to fucking deal with now, with no benefit to them besides Good Guy, that's contaminated everything from science to blue's clues tier media and having to have a struggle session if you ask questions. it was like a pandora's box.

there is also, as another elephant in the room, a fundamental problem; most people do not/will not actually fucking like gays. ever. very empathetic liberal types do, many whites in the west do, and then it ends. blacks don't like them, hispanics don't like them, immigrants don't like them, and people that do will treat it like a humiliation ritual and like it until you start approaching them. you can force the western populace to love them, but anyone with a hijab just goes "RECORD THAT AND SEND TO THE CHILDREN MOHAMMED, DEGENERACY OF THE WEST". so, again, with ignoring EVERYTHING ELSE, importing radical muslims and the religious conservative majority of the world to witness piss festivals sponsored by coca cola is just free radicalization and just accepting that violence WILL happen, but people also can't seem to choose between full literally Godless moral degeneracy or unchecked eternally conservative religious fanatics, so you have people that baby the entire gay community while seemingly unknowingly hating them so much they import people that would gladly flay them if they had the time and knowledge
 
very empathetic liberal types do

I suspect that before the 90s, even a good deal of liberals weren't all that thrilled about the idea of letting the state give an endorsement to two gays playing house, and calling it "marriage."

Fun fact, we've found more evidence that homophobia is genetic and innate than homosexual "orientation" supposedly is.
 
Found this on /v/. Thought this might be relevant.
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Nik is probably just doing it for attention but guys that switch up and look for a wife aren't doing it because they see the error of their ways a lot of the time but because they've hit the wall in the gay world and suddenly want someone legally bound to them who will give them a family and help them out in life. L M A O Any woman who would take on such a man is grade A retarded and her family doesn't love her.

Also, he's just doing it for attention. That's been his whole career.
 
Based Nicocado. Faggotry is a choice and incredibly easy to drop out of

Depends. For the vast majority, I imagine, same sex attraction isn't a choice, even if the gay lifestyle is.

Wouldn't be surprised if a very small minority did it purely for shits and giggles, however. Political lesbianism, for one thing, is a phenomenon where radfems deliberately choose to live a lesbian lifestyle out of hatred for men, and not because they actually are attracted to other women.
 
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