Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

If you think this way (that a court your nation does not even recognize should be listened to) you should be thrown out for treason. Your actions are undermining your oath to uphold the nation you serve. Why don't we start listening to Sharia court rulings out of Afghanistan while we are at it?
queer starmer was a lawyer before he became a politician
and not just any lawyer, a """human rights""" lawyer
guys like that treat international 'law' like a rabbi treats the torah, and they treat high courts like divinely ordained institutions of supreme moral authority.
to you and me an international court is just a bunch of dudes in robes having a larp session, but to keir starmer that court has the mandate of heaven.
 
queer starmer was a lawyer before he became a politician
and not just any lawyer, a """human rights""" lawyer
guys like that treat international 'law' like a rabbi treats the torah, and they treat high courts like divinely ordained institutions of supreme moral authority.
to you and me an international court is just a bunch of dudes in robes having a larp session, but to keir starmer that court has the mandate of heaven.
The UK will be beholden to 3rd world despotic governments who fill these courts. What a shame in the Anglo-sphere.
 
If you think this way (that a court your nation does not even recognize should be listened to) you should be thrown out for treason. Your actions are undermining your oath to uphold the nation you serve. Why don't we start listening to Sharia court rulings out of Afghanistan while we are at it?

Wait, they aren't listening to sharia already?
 
Zero percent chance Pakistan is allowed to come out of this with a win.

Iran splitting in 6 parts would be truly awful. Admitting it splits according to ethnic map, it means Azeris and Pakistanis get bigger and stronger (and Afghanistan have even more reasons to fight Pakistan), Kurds would have an independent state to fight with Turks, and there's more free Arab countries to allow Islamism and civil wars.
Israel wants a powerful ally in Iran, US wants stability and oil which would be difficult with a splitting country, and other Muslims states would enter in chaos if it happens.
More importantly, instead of regional stability you'd just cause more wars as not all of Iran has oil, and even the internal ethnic goup zones aren't clearly defined.

it took south korea like 40 years to get them from war torn poverty hole to where they are today, and they had a homogenous population of high IQ east asians to work with
i doubt iran with its dozens of ethnic minorities can do the same
south Korea also wasn't infested with muslims.

Trump backtracked on the UK-Mauritius Chagos deal because the UK is not letting the US use RAF bases (including Diego Garcia and RAF Fairford) to strike Iran.
Our stalwart European allies ladies and gentlemen.
I wonder how much cash the frogs are pouring into the country now to buy that sweet,sweet oil while they can

counterpoint: those were being maintained and operated by the incompetent and corrupt chavista army
but whether the iranian revolutionary guard is more competent and better organized than that remains to be seen
This is a completely fair and apt point. But I'd also care to point out the IRCG are bunch of inbred retarded sandniggers, most only in their positions because of connections not talent. So I really doubt they are maintaining their systems all that much better than the banana niggers.

I wonder if the IOC would ban America from the LA Games.
Please let this happen becasue it would be so fucking funny.

Yeah this was the standard Soviet excuse for why their systems never worked as advertised

The reality is that American technology doesn't just jam frequencies very well - it also pumps out all kinds of EM radiation that fucks with the hardware and laughs at Soviet/Russian (and Chinese) attempts at shielding
well how did we do it in 1991?
I am going to try to condense this well of absolute autism to the very lowest level.

When the US does EW they don't just try to outbroadcast power the other guy, which is what the soviets do. The US attempts to hammer enemy systems weak points, this allows relatively low power systems to utterly fuck high power ones well above their signal strenght.

In general, they locate where the RADARS are located and hit them frequency pulses that fuck with the reciever and cause the machine logic to assume there was an error and reset. The reset takes a second or two, and then its hit with another big,directed pulse right at the perfect time. The RADAR is thus kept in a constant "noise debug" loop.

This also doesn't count fun thigns like blasting the RADAR with a hyper-directed beam of its own frequency and causing it to overheat.


Yeah technology quality only paints half the picture, maintenance, operator training, and whether said operators were even active at the time of approach are crucial components as well. There's ways around radar jamming for example, but it's seriously doubtful the average chavista AA unit had any training in it or the awareness, planning, and tactical imagination necessary to account for it. Your average dictatorship grunt isn't going to be putting much effort into their job, especially when the US is content to posture and threaten for months on end before pulling the trigger out of the blue.

Iran in this case will be similar, especially after Israel degraded so much of their integrated air defences last year. The question isn't whether any decapitation strike succeeds, it's how well one does and whether it is enough to bring about regime change fast enough to stave off government collapse and civil war.
I'd care to point to the story of the Serb SA-2 battery commander who managed the F-117 kill.

to tl;dr: He had been drilling his men for months to the point thye could be packed up and moving in 15 minutes and redeployed in 45 minutes after finding a new site. He kept his battery in near constant movement. He waited for the perfect weather conditions, and had informants telling him when the F-117s were taking off, had an idea of about where they would be, and knew he didn't have to worry about any HARMs.

Even with all that lined up, he readily admits it was a long shot, just as likely they'd miss, powered his RADAR the absolute last second and immediately after launch shut down and his battery was already packing up to move without even confirming if they hit or not. So even with all that effort and prep, it came down to luck.

But it wouldn't have been possible if he hadn't drilled his men and put in the effort to set up his shot.

And I really doubt any sand niggers are drilling to that level of razor-honed competence.

To be fair, they're performing decently in the Donbass war. Neither Kiev nor Moskva risk many manned airstrikes.
Neither are risking aircraft near the front because they are soviet-pattern deathtraps (or Ukraine's case, soviet-pattern deathtraps OR one of 7 1970s F-16s). S-300 & S-400 has proven less hungry for Jets than Patriot.



No disagreement there, but also nobody is referring to surgical SpecOp strikes when they use the term "ground war."

In hypothetical large scale, boots-on-the-ground-holding-territory invasion of Iran, you WOULD have a Vietnam 2.0, and it would be occurring at a time when America is already extremely divided, everyone is openly questioning the legitimacy of their political rivals, and America is determinedly trying to pivot to the Pacific.

It would be a nightmare at home and abroad.
That's a lot of concern about how the US doing something in its geopolitical interests is actually a bad thing for the US because of some hypothetical nightmare scenario that would require a year of build up to even be plausible.

Post hands, fren.

I said avoid the sperging. Nevermind, it must be genetics.
"What if Russia sends Iran Unicorns? Could Russia send Iran a detachment of combat yetis?"
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Shin is doxing the Chief Justice of Iran:


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Calling him out for using a hospital as shelter and then linked a thread about how this Iranian hospital is owned by regime operatives:


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He then doxes another regime official:



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The talking heads on youtube are all fighting each other about US politics in advance of the state of the union address that is scheduled next week.

So I am fairly certain that nothing will happen re:Iran until at least after the 24th. Optics and all that.
 
No disagreement there, but also nobody is referring to surgical SpecOp strikes when they use the term "ground war."

In hypothetical large scale, boots-on-the-ground-holding-territory invasion of Iran, you WOULD have a Vietnam 2.0, and it would be occurring at a time when America is already extremely divided, everyone is openly questioning the legitimacy of their political rivals, and America is determinedly trying to pivot to the Pacific.

It would be a nightmare at home and abroad.

I'm not sure where all the rainbows are coming from, a US military occupation of Iran would be a public relations disaster back home. Trump might as well hand the Democrats the country if something like that transpires.

Which is why you aren't seeing a buildup of US land assets, and you didn't before the strikes last year either. Orange man has made his fuck ups, but he's managed to push his agenda forward overseas without resorting to occupying forces so far, and I don't see why he should change course.

If anything, these successful decapitation strikes/smash and grabs/bombing campaigns show just how wasteful, inept, and malicious the entire GWOT was. Years of occupations and thousands of Americans dead to accomplish fuck all. Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan are all under control of either violent jihadis far worse than the prior government, literally the prior government, or is an Iranian puppet. All these wars also squandered the American public's patience to foreign adventurism, limiting America's options going forward. Even Biden's handlers weren't dumb enough to start a new forever war.
 
I'm not sure where all the rainbows are coming from, a US military occupation of Iran would be a public relations disaster back home. Trump might as well hand the Democrats the country if something like that transpires.

Which is why you aren't seeing a buildup of US land assets, and you didn't before the strikes last year either. Orange man has made his fuck ups, but he's managed to push his agenda forward overseas without resorting to occupying forces so far, and I don't see why he should change course.

If anything, these successful decapitation strikes/smash and grabs/bombing campaigns show just how wasteful, inept, and malicious the entire GWOT was. Years of occupations and thousands of Americans dead to accomplish fuck all. Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan are all under control of either violent jihadis far worse than the prior government, literally the prior government, or is an Iranian puppet. All these wars also squandered the American public's patience to foreign adventurism, limiting America's options going forward. Even Biden's handlers weren't dumb enough to start a new forever war.
Us is completely bound if it decides to invade. Americans can't really understand that Iran itself is 1/3 the size of US and made out of endless hills and valleys.
Vietnam is 1/10th the size of Iran
Beyond bombing them to shit there's not much to do.
 
Us is completely bound if it decides to invade. Americans can't really understand that Iran itself is 1/3 the size of US and made out of endless hills and valleys.
Vietnam is 1/10th the size of Iran
Beyond bombing them to shit there's not much to do.

There is not going to be a ground invasion of Iran. Iraq took 600,000 troops and nearly 6 months worth of build up. Iran is 3 times the size and is made up entirely of mountains. Everyone would see it coming from a year away, and would require deploying a decent chunk of NG units overseas.
 
There is not going to be a ground invasion of Iran. Iraq took 600,000 troops and nearly 6 months worth of build up. Iran is 3 times the size and is made up entirely of mountains. Everyone would see it coming from a year away, and would require deploying a decent chunk of NG units overseas.
I'd caveat that:
The US is not going to attempt to use American ground based forces to attempt to take over Iran.

I would not rule out US troops deploying in support of the anti-mullah side in an Iranian civil war, but I think its unlikely. I think the US only directly involved itself in Iranian civil war if its a foregone conclusion the anti-government side wins, and keeps its involvement to airsupport with maybe some glowies offering tactical advice to the leaders.
Basically Libya though hopefully with a better outcome.

But if the current IRGC rule ends up involved in a ground war against ostensibly the US, The bulk of the troops will be Iranian or the US will just stick to bombing until the population of Iran is more manageable number.

1/6thish.
Iran 636,000 square miles
USA 3.79 million square miles
Popultion wise. 90 million vs ~300 million.
though I agree with you, most of that population is concentrated in large cities, so while Iranian partisans would hold up Taliban style, also much like Afghanistan central order would likely fall quite quickly.

If anything, these successful decapitation strikes/smash and grabs/bombing campaigns show just how wasteful, inept, and malicious the entire GWOT was. Years of occupations and thousands of Americans dead to accomplish fuck all. Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan are all under control of either violent jihadis far worse than the prior government, literally the prior government, or is an Iranian puppet. All these wars also squandered the American public's patience to foreign adventurism, limiting America's options going forward. Even Biden's handlers weren't dumb enough to start a new forever war.
I'm not going to disagree with you that GWOT was mismanaged to shit and run by politicians not generals.

However, first there was a logic to it. at least at the start. This was coming out of the 90s, and Dubya who got a look at geopoltics via his dad's career in the 80s.
Libya, Iraq, Iran were hosting global terrorists in their territory allowing them to train with cover from the USSR becasue they wanted chaos in the west. Saddam got whomped in '91 but no one overthrew him or even seriously challenged his rule. Saddam also had sons who were poltically powerful in their own right.
The conept was sound - overthrow anti-america despots and put in place secular western-friendly governments, a project likely to succeed now that ComIntern was gone.
The issue was the political leadership lacked the stones to do what needed to be done, which was pretty much sending the whole country through reeducation and forcing them to not breed with their cousins.
Talking with Iraqis in the teens, they universally considered Paul Bremer the best Iraqi leader and the general vibe had been, post invasion, they wanted the US to withdraw its troops and leave Bremer to run the country.
(of course they couldn't grasp why that wouldn't be possible given how violent and inbred retared they are, but)

Second, I think Smash-and-grab only works because of the GWOT. All the dictators were expecting massive gorund based invasions, and figuring they were safe until the US began staging the 3rd division on their borders - there is no need to start briefing successors and preparing for loss of central control until that happens. Maduro getting straight yeeted on a drug charge changed that calculus; now they have to be ready anytime a CSG is parked off their shores. And in a very real sense, if you are near a US or NATO airbase, you could be 2am'd at any moment.
 
I'd care to point to the story of the Serb SA-2 battery commander who managed the F-117 kill.

to tl;dr: He had been drilling his men for months to the point thye could be packed up and moving in 15 minutes and redeployed in 45 minutes after finding a new site. He kept his battery in near constant movement. He waited for the perfect weather conditions, and had informants telling him when the F-117s were taking off, had an idea of about where they would be, and knew he didn't have to worry about any HARMs.

Even with all that lined up, he readily admits it was a long shot, just as likely they'd miss, powered his RADAR the absolute last second and immediately after launch shut down and his battery was already packing up to move without even confirming if they hit or not. So even with all that effort and prep, it came down to luck.

But it wouldn't have been possible if he hadn't drilled his men and put in the effort to set up his shot.

And I really doubt any sand niggers are drilling to that level of razor-honed competence.
On top of everything said above, there were additional factors.

Flying without EA-6B Prowler EW support was error #1. The flight that night was completely unescorted. In addition to the Serb aligned spies, much of the U.S.-NATO UHF/VHF interoperability frequencies were being used unencrypted.

The U.S. was also using the same air corridor over and over again, and making attack runs at roughly the same time of night. Cmdr. Dani was able to set up his battery right underneath the flight path.

There's a lot of other things which added up, but suffice it to say that complacency kills. It took the U.S. Air Force being completely retarded, in addition to an admittedly very skilled and cunning air defense unit to make that shot.

To say that this is an extremely well studied object lesson is an understatement.
 
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