🌟 Internet Famous Turkey Tom / TomDark / @NotATurkey / TomDarkLive / anonbirdd / Thomas Larry Hanson - KiwiTuber, "Her Prostate" enjoyer, chronic shitstirrer, Destiny worshipper, pronouns respecter, Mr.Beast bootlicker, serial cheater, cuck, Kiwi Farms induced erectile dysfunction

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This is what I've been thinking. Some of the best tangible proof TT has are the texts (not including Ellie stuff, just the BPD whores), and text messages have been pretty "standard" evidence in years past. If they're not faked, then it's been pretty cut and dry.

But here we have someone both fully aware of that and had the forethought (and restraint) to avoid putting anything damning in texts for months, possibly years. Many of his texts really seem to be him responding as if it's a PR move.

Rowan even said as much back in the beginning. She likely knew her texts with TT don't show shit. She calls it "rape time" in texts and TT says, "uh excuse me, it's ackshually very consensual adult intercourse, thank you." As if he's opposed to even joking about rape. Wow! Looks like a upstanding citizen dealing with a sex-crazed degen whore! Yet don't we have a recording of him saying to Katie something about "rape time." Or some version of that. So we know that, in person/calls he doesn't think are recorded, he had no issue with this wording. But in texts, he has to correct the narrative so he sounds sane and she's left looking like a lunatic. Just in case they ever leak. And I think that's a bit telling.

And we will never know what goes on IRL where the real Tom unmasks. I hate to say it kiwibros but I think we're not going to see much fruition from this event. I'll place money that in years to come we'll see more come out about TT and his degeneracy, maybe even a total turkey death, because everyone eventually slips up, just not this time around. (I hope to be proven wrong, though.)
I agree but even really degenerate shit isnt that bad if the other party consented to it. And if you are a girl thats literally sending amputee-porn and wants to be "pretend-raped in the woods", you cant call out TT for being a deviant. Tbf i also dont care about if he irl does that shit with consenting adults, the only thing that really is fucked up if he pursues minor looking adult women to roleplay some pedo-shit with them, thats truely fucked up if true. However we will now most likely never find out if thats true since the reputation of all his exes claiming such is dragged through the mud.
 
However, it could set a precedent that if you publicly come out like that wanting the world to believe someone was abusing you, raping you or filming without consent there could be major legal consequences besides internet humiliation.
People have learned nothing from the Amber Heard situation or the multitude of accusations that have blown up in the faces of the accusers since then so I doubt. There's still multiple trannies, BPD women, and scorned gay men who will still write twitlongers until the dawn of time as long as there is a retarded xitter/bsky tranny liberal or corporation trying to save face who will eat it up at even the most borderline retarded accusations. Then they will get shocked when the defamation suit comes to hit them in the face like a brick in some Chinese LiveLeak video or the truth comes out and their reputation or personal life gets ruined for trying to get back at an ex. Critical thinking is never applied for retards like Rowan, who will just mindlessly throw caution to the wind because they are too retarded.
 
This is what I've been thinking. Some of the best tangible proof TT has are the texts (not including Ellie stuff, just the BPD whores), and text messages have been pretty "standard" evidence in years past. If they're not faked, then it's been pretty cut and dry.

But here we have someone both fully aware of that and had the forethought (and restraint) to avoid putting anything damning in texts for months, possibly years. Many of his texts really seem to be him responding as if it's a PR move.

Rowan even said as much back in the beginning. She likely knew her texts with TT don't show shit. She calls it "rape time" in texts and TT says, "uh excuse me, it's ackshually very consensual adult intercourse, thank you." As if he's opposed to even joking about rape. Wow! Looks like a upstanding citizen dealing with a sex-crazed degen whore! Yet don't we have a recording of him saying to Katie something about "rape time." Or some version of that. So we know that, in person/calls he doesn't think are recorded, he had no issue with this wording. But in texts, he has to correct the narrative so he sounds sane and she's left looking like a lunatic. Just in case they ever leak. And I think that's a bit telling.

And we will never know what goes on IRL where the real Tom unmasks. I hate to say it kiwibros but I think we're not going to see much fruition from this event. I'll place money that in years to come we'll see more come out about TT and his degeneracy, maybe even a total turkey death, because everyone eventually slips up, just not this time around. (I hope to be proven wrong, though.)
Well, let me say this. Sacramento was spurred in part to call what was done as "rape" by the thread itself. She did state "nothing done was illegal" which should have been the pressure point. We didn't have enough knowledge to infer that Turkey Tom wasn't the one to initialize rough sex and we mistakenly assumed that he was the only one interested.

Turkey Tom is probably fucked for life though. If anything comes up, women know that the the farms is an open platform.
 
Well, I'm a retard. Girl in the interview got me fooled. I took part in a text version of the Jerry Springer Show. I would say I'll know better in the future, but when you're stupid, you're fucking stupid.

I still stand by my general views on sex, violence and predators. Probably not applicable in this particular case.

That said, I can't be fucked to read last 80 pages. What's the dumbed down, tldr version? Girl is batshit crazy and Turkish Tom has a tendency to stick his dick in crazy, now hosting a girl beliving to be a dog at his house?

Edit: corrected spelling errors.
 
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I'll never be able to understand the people that think they can get one over on kiwifarms.

This is the worst place on the internet to try that, considering people here seem to know how to doxx someone 5000 ways.

The funny thing is, it's not like it was unknown. Kiwifarms has been smeared in the media for years and yet somehow these retards think they are going to be the one sell their false story here.

Considering these girls were into internet culture it seems, its even more retarded.

But I also think it's probably the first time in these girls lives they had consequences for their actions. They probably thought thought they could weasel away from this if it went to shit... Oops
I think the thought process was something along the lines of "If it's on the Farms, it will ruin him for life and le edgy doxxing forum will eat whatever shitty gossip we throw their way up without hesitation because they love fucking with people". The problem is that they not only overshared like crazy (be it the truth or the lies) but also left a digital paper trail not only for Turkey Man but also for the most vigilant sleuths here to follow and exploit.

I still cannot get over those chat messages god damn. That is so fucking embarrassing.
 
I always found those complaints about YouTubers using this website to be really petty and gay. Like oh how dare they not give "AyranNiggerKiller666" a shout-out in their video for posting a screenshot in a thread about an autistic furry or something. Who fucking cares get a life.
i understand why people don't want to associate themselves knowing the kind of knee jerk reactions this site brings out of people, but if you're going to condemn the ethics and methods about how people here catalogue retards on the Internet then you can't exactly maintain a holier-than-thou disposition when you yourself use this website as a source for your own ends when you need receipts for your lolcow docu or need to dig up dirt for the latest e-celeb you got into a fight with.

and if you are a girl thats literally sending amputee-porn and wants to be "pretend-raped in the woods", you cant call out TT for being a deviant.
just because Tom isn't the one bringing it up doesn't mean he's less deviant for going along with it, if by chance another woman makes an account and chimes in about how she opened up to Tom about how she likes having YouTubers shit on her chest then that doesn't mean Tom isn't accountable when he does choose to oblige the request by dumping his hairy ass all over her when he could've easily declined as well, you need a certain kind of sexual proclivity to engage with such kinks and if you're on board with "age play" then you're less removed from the precipice known as "pedophilia" compared to the guy who would say "i'm not going to fuck you while you pretend to be a toddler".
 
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I'll never be able to understand the people that think they can get one over on kiwifarms.

This is the worst place on the internet to try that, considering people here seem to know how to doxx someone 5000 ways.
It's the same logic which drives people to do PA requests, they hear of "DA BIG BAD KEWEE FORMS" via Reddit/X and believe this site is some huge cesspool of just going after anyone who's pointed out as a Pedo/Furry/Transgender (etc) with everyone spreading lies to do so. I still to this day run into people on videogames who'll be crying about KF and how it's a big bad and the moment you try and point out how fucking retarded they are they just go "OH WELL IT SPREADS CP!" or "THEY USE THE N WORD" and will up and leave.

So for normies they think it's a great way to fuck with someone they don't like, doubly so if that person has a hint of internet fame. I imagine these two girls figured Null+Farms hated Tom enough to lap up any accusation (Which.. Did happen initially) and not look any deeper than the surface. Problem is this isn't Reddit or X where that's all you need for some purple haired faggot to do a slapdash phonebooking (Which can be wrong in a lot of instances) and begin brigading against someone, it's somewhere where as you point out, we have autists who CAN actually work out how to doxx people and CAN archive everything and CAN check deleted/archived pages for evidence to prove or disprove an allegation.
 
I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned in the thread before, and it’s not relevant, but I found this comment from one of acheeto’s streams a few years back for something else.


I think Tom is talking to his girlfriend at the time, but I’m not sure. Either way, it didn’t seem like it was to a viewer or someone else in the call. Thoughts?

Feminine voice is heard and i think it's his ex.
It's from Aug 2023, when they were still together.
 
It's the same logic which drives people to do PA requests, they hear of "DA BIG BAD KEWEE FORMS" via Reddit/X and believe this site is some huge cesspool of just going after anyone who's pointed out as a Pedo/Furry/Transgender (etc) with everyone spreading lies to do so. I still to this day run into people on videogames who'll be crying about KF and how it's a big bad and the moment you try and point out how fucking retarded they are they just go "OH WELL IT SPREADS CP!" or "THEY USE THE N WORD" and will up and leave.

So for normies they think it's a great way to fuck with someone they don't like, doubly so if that person has a hint of internet fame. I imagine these two girls figured Null+Farms hated Tom enough to lap up any accusation (Which.. Did happen initially) and not look any deeper than the surface. Problem is this isn't Reddit or X where that's all you need for some purple haired faggot to do a slapdash phonebooking (Which can be wrong in a lot of instances) and begin brigading against someone, it's somewhere where as you point out, we have autists who CAN actually work out how to doxx people and CAN archive everything and CAN check deleted/archived pages for evidence to prove or disprove an allegation.

Oh, should also point out they think we drive people to suicide or SWAT them. There's still a LOT of retards who think KiwiFarms has a giant list in the triple digits of 'Confirmed Trans suicides'.
 
I hope but tbh idk, with the existing chats, how rowans story can even be slightly true. Maybe someone less retarded and degenerate chose to come forwards?
I hope too unless there is something else i don't know about. As for less retarded allegations, there are none that i saw.
I have this tho, some girl named "Alice" he allegedly flew out to Boston in 2022. He allegedly contacted her using a burner account on twitter and i'm pretty sure two of his leaked emails had a Twitter account, i know he had a priv account lurkingbird10. I think if it happened it was durring his and Kai's first breakup. Unless he cheated, that's not out of possibility. He moved to Canada in 2023, i think?
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It's been brought up in the thread before, Tom is very likely a dry texter. The person he is in DMs is different than the person he is IRL. I don't blame him, his day job is reading other people's degenerate messages.
Some may not agree with what I'm about to say: but this describes literally fucking everyone.
That's the whole point of text messages - its super difficult to convey nuance and intended meaning in them.

Women in particular are super retarded sensitive about wording and shit and misconstrue everything. That's why you need a photogenic memory like I have and win arguments against them bitches when they start acting up because they're dumb and have poor memory.

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Oh, should also point out they think we drive people to suicide or SWAT them. There's still a LOT of retards who think KiwiFarms has a giant list in the triple digits of 'Confirmed Trans suicides'.
Common made up rumor. Truth is, we only drive nigger trannies to suicide. Regular trannies aren't as sensitive because they don't have to deal with systemic racism *yawn*
 
Rowan even said as much back in the beginning. She likely knew her texts with TT don't show shit. She calls it "rape time" in texts and TT says, "uh excuse me, it's ackshually very consensual adult intercourse, thank you." As if he's opposed to even joking about rape. Wow! Looks like a upstanding citizen dealing with a sex-crazed degen whore! Yet don't we have a recording of him saying to Katie something about "rape time." Or some version of that. So we know that, in person/calls he doesn't think are recorded, he had no issue with this wording. But in texts, he has to correct the narrative so he sounds sane and she's left looking like a lunatic. Just in case they ever leak. And I think that's a bit telling.
This is just standard procedure for these commentary fags.

Anyone that's watched way to many of their videos (like I admittedly have), will tell you they all expect at some point that someone is going to snake them, and drop anything they have. Because that exact thing has happened repeatedly within their group. They record each other on calls secretly. Drop texts, all of this. And even the ones that haven't taken part in that themselves, have watched their buddies do this, or have it done to them. It's also a well known thing that they discuss all of this stuff with each other behind the scenes. All of them deny it, or play that off as a joke, or like it's absurd. But they definitely do.

Even if it wasn't for that, almost all of what they cover on their channels are situations just like the one that happened here. Some bpd whore comes out, drops texts, calls, makes some accusations and they meticulously go over all of it. And either defend the person being accused, or they agree, "yep she definitely got raped".

My point is, there is no way he didn't have any of that in mind while he was texting her. You're absolutely right when you say they came off like a PR response. They were him making sure to make himself come off as clean as possible in the case they got dropped. It's damn near like he's trained his whole life to respond to allegations like this (considering he's had his youtube channel talking about this stuff since he was a teenager).


The other thing i'll mention, is the way these people handle allegations they want to sweep up. I've mentioned it in the mati thread, but it's pretty relevant here.

When they want to cover for someone, they don't need to completely disprove all the allegations that were made (as you can see from his response). They just need to make the accuser seem unreliable. There are a lot of situations where I've seen commentary youtubers completely brush off allegations someone made after finding a hole in a certain part of the story. Once there is a hole in it, they focus on that. Then call into question everything else. But most importantly they try to discredit the character of the person making them because if you can't trust the accuser you can't trust the accusations.

You can even find most of these guys going over responses to rape/sa/sex pest allegations. Then saying how they think the accused should have handled the response video. These are all things all of these guys have thought about extensively. And there are hours and hours of video of them talking about it.

To be clear, I'm not saying Rowan isn't a lying BPD whore, I thought she was lying about a few things from the start (or some things felt off, obviously the match screenshot, some of the messages with her family/friend implied she already knew who tom was, also the recording of him on the phone came off as suspect to me). But I do think people should keep in mind that this is damn near his area of expertise, so it's probably worth considering. Either way Rowan isn't coming out of this looking good.
 
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And we will never know what goes on IRL where the real Tom unmasks. I hate to say it kiwibros but I think we're not going to see much fruition from this event.

maybe I’m too woke but getting access to the entirety of Tom’s sex life, Tom ascending from the dumpster fire as “the man who fucks for literal hours”, and two BPD women getting felted is genuinely the best outcome for all worlds. The fruit runneth over. Unless you wanted him to throw himself off the Troon bridge or something, this is genuinely the funniest, moral free outcome.

ffs the moment the thread is unlocked everyone starts bitching about the ethics of kf and normies

Need a purge thread for ethics in milking journalism where these can get banished. Go ahead mods. I know my place (:_(
 
When they want to cover for someone, they don't need to completely disprove all the allegations that were made (as you can see from his response). They just need to make the accuser seem unreliable. There are a lot of situations where I've seen commentary youtubers completely brush off allegations someone made after finding a hole in a certain part of the story. Once there is a hole in it, they focus on that. Then call into question everything else. But most importantly they try to discredit the character of the person making them because if you can't trust the accuser you can't trust the accusations.
yeah that's how the game is played
since none of these accusers ever take their shit to a court of law (where real proof and real rules of evidence are a athing) it all stays in the court of public opinion, and in that setting it's all about attacking the other sides reputation and credibility. that's the whole point of starting drama like this in the first place, and that's also the only somewhat effective defense against it.
no surprise that a professional dramamonger like bulgarian tom knows how to play this game well, it's basically his job and has been for years.
 
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