🪦 Deceased Scott Raymond Adams / @ScottAdamsSays / “Real Coffee With Scott Adams” - The Washed Up Cartoonist Behind “Dilbert”, Creator of “The Dilberito”, Professional Bullying Victim, Political Grifter, Terminally Online Narcissistic Boomer, Divorced Twice, Is (Not) Glad His Stepson Overdosed. This is Not a Racial Politics Debate Thread

[Chazzed Up]

Those retards ignored the fact the vaXXXXX mostly worked and called it an "experimental vaccine" while retardedly chugging down horse worm pills for absolutely no reason even though it was COMPLETELY untested and its benefits were entirely imaginary.

These tards still think anyone who ever died after getting the vaXXXXXXXXXXXXXX proves they died because of the vax. Utter retard shit.

That wasn't my question, I was questioning why he took it if he’s not anti-vax, as I'm not aware of anyone else outside that crowd advising it.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I mean, when certain death is in front of you i believe it's very likely that the person is 100% truthful about accepting Jesus, at least in their minds. Does it undo a lifetime of being an atheist or whatever? Who the fuck knows?
I can't really fathom the concept of being damned for eternity because of a few things you did here on earth. An eternity in hell as a punishment for 60 or 70 years worth of sins? An eternity is an unfathomable amount of time, it isn't fair, and God is just and his acts are all perfect because he is a perfect being, so maybe he figured something out that we don't know about, idk.

RIP MY NIGGA SCOTT ADAMS

This is (and I'm not meaning to be a jerk, I didn't get this stuff until recently) a misunderstanding of what Christianity is. Folk Christianity - not just pop culture but what most folks mentally visualize and take for granted - is very different from formal doctrine. Fire-and-brimstone Hell isn't completely baseless - there's the story of Lazarus - but the way most theologians take it, as I understand, goes like this:

"Sin" as a word is doing several jobs at once. It does refer to, essentially, violation of God's laws, but it also refers to a state of being (I first got this by analogizing it to Shinto pollution) that one can have. Sin also applies just as much to intentions and capabilities as it does actions (see the Sermon on the Mount). The desire to sin and the capability of desiring to sin is itself sin.

To start, people are "made in the image of God" (imago dei) in that they are what you would call a rational moral agent. We as a race are not just internally alive like other creatures, not just intelligent, but have the ability to actually conceptualize morality. This makes us moral agents, but at the same time, because we have a limited perspective - we're not wise or knowledgeable enough to see the full picture that God has - we inevitably act in ways that are out of order with God. This is original sin. The apple story? That's a mythic allegory. (Keep in mind, allegorical reading of this shit is what most educated people in its own day did.) A species achieves a level of intellectual development - eats from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil - and suddenly falls into this moral trap that, in becoming moral agents, they are suddenly thrust into moral responsibility, in contrast to the amoral natural world around them.

Why does God allow this? Because for whatever reason, God wanted to essentially create more gods. He wanted to have little copies of him (in that imago dei) sense running around and the price of this was that they had to have free will so they could be moral agents and the world had to allow, then, for the possibility that they might fuck up his little diorama. Keep in mind, Christianity is built on virtue ethics, where moral goodness is not determined by fixed rules (deontology) or by how many happy points an action gives you (utilitarianism), but instead on the assumption that things have a nature they are trying to grow into, Man's is to be like God and the cultivation of traits is what furthers that. Actions are relevant in that they both shape virtues and reflect them. In a virtue ethicist framework you can't coerce good, it arises from choice because only by choice does someone actually exercise that virtue.

Ultimately, the goal here is reunion with God. Orthodox call this theosis. Life cycle complete, mission achieved, God has another little god now (because you have repaired the broken relationship, aligned with the cosmos), but the world's richer for it because he's not alone. Fire-and-brimstone Hell is bullshit, mostly recycling Hades imagery as a spook story for peasants. Little Biblical basis for it. Hell is a state you put yourself into by not making yourself available to God. God can't bring a person into union with him that isn't playing along.

Where Jesus figures into all this shit is that, as I take it, mankind had gotten so fucked up from the time of Adam that God had to start over, and by creating a being that was at once both God and a human Jesus was basically able to live and die as a model for humanity. You hear this metaphor of him being like grafting a vine. God is taking himself and putting it into a form that is accessible to our own nature as a direct lifeline. There is also the metaphor of Jesus as paying a debt, and this is goofy as fuck but it's probably closer to how ancient Christians, coming out of Mesopotamia (fuck you, I consider Canaan/Phoenicia/Israel Mesopotamia, same cultural world), thought. Sin is discharged through death, but it doesn't actually have to be the death of the sinner. (If this sounds stupid, so be it, that's how it is.) This is why Jews kill those chickens. Well, suppose you've come to realize that the nature of the problem is that you've got an infinity of sin, because it's not just your actions but also your thoughts, also this broken nature/relationship that you have an infinity of evil potential within you because you are at odds with the world. The only way to make it right is to sacrifice something of infinite value, and what has infinite value? God.

Also, if it makes you feel better, there are intellectually serious, pre-Globohomo theologians that believe that Jesus' crucifixion was accessible to everyone. Emmanuel Swedenborg was an Enlightenment Swedish scientist-turned-mystic who wrote on this.

 

[Dude Snakes]

Did he actually die from the cancer or did he have the doctor perform the assisted suicide I thought he had planned?

Assisted dying is fucked up. It started off for terminal people here in Canada now its available for the poor or mentally ill. Was Scott considering going to Canada to get MAID? Either way it shouldn't be legal, it opens pandoras box to horrifying abuse we got disabled veterans being offered suicide instead of help living.

 

[ZipDisk]

Adams intended to exit in March, and yes California has such a program. Adams was not going to get better, his plea for medication was for a little bit more time.
Also don't double post.

 

[Sonia the Hedgehog]

This is (and I'm not meaning to be a jerk, I didn't get this stuff until recently) a misunderstanding of what Christianity is. Folk Christianity - not just pop culture but what most folks mentally visualize and take for granted - is very different from formal doctrine. Fire-and-brimstone Hell isn't completely baseless - there's the story of Lazarus - but the way most theologians take it, as I understand, goes like this:

"Sin" as a word is doing several jobs at once. It does refer to, essentially, violation of God's laws, but it also refers to a state of being (I first got this by analogizing it to Shinto pollution) that one can have. Sin also applies just as much to intentions and capabilities as it does actions (see the Sermon on the Mount). The desire to sin and the capability of desiring to sin is itself sin.

To start, people are "made in the image of God" (imago dei) in that they are what you would call a rational moral agent. We as a race are not just internally alive like other creatures, not just intelligent, but have the ability to actually conceptualize morality. This makes us moral agents, but at the same time, because we have a limited perspective - we're not wise or knowledgeable enough to see the full picture that God has - we inevitably act in ways that are out of order with God. This is original sin. The apple story? That's a mythic allegory. (Keep in mind, allegorical reading of this shit is what most educated people in its own day did.) A species achieves a level of intellectual development - eats from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil - and suddenly falls into this moral trap that, in becoming moral agents, they are suddenly thrust into moral responsibility, in contrast to the amoral natural world around them.

Why does God allow this? Because for whatever reason, God wanted to essentially create more gods. He wanted to have little copies of him (in that imago dei) sense running around and the price of this was that they had to have free will so they could be moral agents and the world had to allow, then, for the possibility that they might fuck up his little diorama. Keep in mind, Christianity is built on virtue ethics, where moral goodness is not determined by fixed rules (deontology) or by how many happy points an action gives you (utilitarianism), but instead on the assumption that things have a nature they are trying to grow into, Man's is to be like God and the cultivation of traits is what furthers that. Actions are relevant in that they both shape virtues and reflect them. In a virtue ethicist framework you can't coerce good, it arises from choice because only by choice does someone actually exercise that virtue.

Ultimately, the goal here is reunion with God. Orthodox call this theosis. Life cycle complete, mission achieved, God has another little god now (because you have repaired the broken relationship, aligned with the cosmos), but the world's richer for it because he's not alone. Fire-and-brimstone Hell is bullshit, mostly recycling Hades imagery as a spook story for peasants. Little Biblical basis for it. Hell is a state you put yourself into by not making yourself available to God. God can't bring a person into union with him that isn't playing along.

Where Jesus figures into all this shit is that, as I take it, mankind had gotten so fucked up from the time of Adam that God had to start over, and by creating a being that was at once both God and a human Jesus was basically able to live and die as a model for humanity. You hear this metaphor of him being like grafting a vine. God is taking himself and putting it into a form that is accessible to our own nature as a direct lifeline. There is also the metaphor of Jesus as paying a debt, and this is goofy as fuck but it's probably closer to how ancient Christians, coming out of Mesopotamia (fuck you, I consider Canaan/Phoenicia/Israel Mesopotamia, same cultural world), thought. Sin is discharged through death, but it doesn't actually have to be the death of the sinner. (If this sounds stupid, so be it, that's how it is.) This is why Jews kill those chickens. Well, suppose you've come to realize that the nature of the problem is that you've got an infinity of sin, because it's not just your actions but also your thoughts, also this broken nature/relationship that you have an infinity of evil potential within you because you are at odds with the world. The only way to make it right is to sacrifice something of infinite value, and what has infinite value? God.

Also, if it makes you feel better, there are intellectually serious, pre-Globohomo theologians that believe that Jesus' crucifixion was accessible to everyone. Emmanuel Swedenborg was an Enlightenment Swedish scientist-turned-mystic who wrote on this.

Sorry but the fire and brimstone imagery isn't bullshit and Jesus himself spoke about it. Rev 21:8, 19:20, 20:10, 14-15. Matt 25:41 (a lot of Matthew.) Luke 17:29. There's plenty of verses where Christians are taught to believe that their all-loving God will enact divine punishment and boil them in lava for eternity because they weren't loyal enough. God judges and condemns pretty openly throughout the entire Bible. It's not metaphorical.

I also want to point out the part about creating a bunch of little gods is actual heresy. Theosis is not becoming a god, it is partaking in divine nature (2 Peter 1:4) and has nothing to do with becoming peers with God. The Bible emphasizes you will always be an imperfect human but may touch divinity in a way that beseeches God for his divine mercy.

 

[The Great One]

Quinton reviews posted this video on the death of Scott Adams.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I also want to point out the part about creating a bunch of little gods is actual heresy.

I could not give one single fuck what is or isn't considered heresy. Heresy = Thing I Disagree With, or Heresy = Thing Ancient Official Faggot Disagreed With.

Theosis is not becoming a god, it is partaking in divine nature (2 Peter 1:4) and has nothing to do with becoming peers with God. The Bible emphasizes you will always be an imperfect human but may touch divinity in a way that beseeches God for his divine mercy.

The way I use "gods" (and I figured it'd trigger someone here) is in reference to that nature of being rational moral agents. He wants more of himself. Not that you're going sit around on a cloud making the trees grow and the rain fall.

Sorry but the fire and brimstone imagery isn't bullshit and Jesus himself spoke about it. Rev 21:8, 19:20, 20:10, 14-15. Matt 25:41 (a lot of Matthew.) Luke 17:29. There's plenty of verses where Christians are taught to believe that their all-loving God will enact divine punishment and boil them in lava for eternity because they weren't loyal enough. God judges and condemns pretty openly throughout the entire Bible. It's not metaphorical.

Well, I can look into that. With a lot of that writing I ask if it's clearly literal or if it's possibly poetic language or what.
The Lazarus story reads pretty literally.
These dudes were working off of Greek mythology - I mean, Hades is the word used - so the idea that God's going to lick your balls with flames is something that exists.
But then there's this big theological tradition, especially out of Eastern Orthodoxy, that takes it as more metaphorical.
I'm not convinced the Bible itself knows what the fuck it's talking about.

Suffice it to say, the take I gave was my take for that dude about whether God's gonna roast your ass over a fireplace. You've got two thousands year of people arguing about this shit. Big thing is, there's takes on it that aren't pure libtard wishful thinking that reject cartoon Heaven and cartoon Hell.

 

[dongykung]

Rip he is right when he said get away from blacks

 

[This User]

That wasn't my question, I was questioning why he took it if he’s not anti-vax, as I'm not aware of anyone else outside that crowd advising it.

What? You really have never heard anyone say "I've got nothing against most vaccines but COVID was unnecessary and I feel misled"?

I thought most people kinda felt like "well... I'm pretty sure I would've lived without it." Hahaha
But as far as why would he take weird drugs when he has cancer? I knew a lady at my church, her husband had cancer and some drug that was NOT meant for cancer treatment put the cancer in remission. If he wasn't antivax he probably tried it to see if it helped, I would think?

 

[Chazzed Up]

What? You really have never heard anyone say "I've got nothing against most vaccines but COVID was unnecessary and I feel misled"?

I thought most people kinda felt like "well... I'm pretty sure I would've lived without it." Hahaha
But as far as why would he take weird drugs when he has cancer? I knew a lady at my church, her husband had cancer and some drug that was NOT meant for cancer treatment put the cancer in remission. If he wasn't antivax he probably tried it to see if it helped, I would think?

No I meant I hadn’t heard ivermectin recommended by anyone else. He sounds pretty against holistic/weirdo fringe treatments so I wouldn't have assumed he would try it.

 

[LopsidedLegend]

Sad to see the crazy old geezer go. At least he got to see Venezuela's communist regime start to fall.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

A man who proved you only get more spiritual as you get older and must contend with the end..... and he also proved that the more time you spend around niggers, the more fatigued you get. Truly wise in the end.

 

[This User]

No I meant I hadn’t heard ivermectin recommended by anyone else. He sounds pretty against holistic/weirdo fringe treatments so I wouldn't have assumed he would try it.

I don't think everyone looking for alternative or experimental applications of existing medicines are necessarily hippie.

Like ivermectin as a trend because of a COVID is 100% a hippie thing but if you're trying shit, because you don't want to die from cancer, I think that's a bit different.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

 

[Lie Eater]

Rip Scott Adams. You were a real nigga and I loved your comics
Proof:
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https://x.com/i/status/2011092122158428587

You had a good run.

 

[Twix Eatr]

He's been doing this longer than just on Twitter, he used to post this kind of stuff and argue about it on the old timey internet too. He turned his old newsletter that was supposed to be wacky corporate and job stories into long essays about his beliefs. Even the Dilbert themed books (not the comic collections) quickly diverged into this, The Dilbert Future is just a bunch of weird theories and also has a long section about affirmations and how they are proven to work.

I think these are my favorite tweets though:
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He was correct on both counts, was he not?

 

[Aquarius]

God is not a Jew. Jesus Christ was born a Jew and taught actual Judaism. This makes Christians actual Jews in practice while the Hebrew people are no longer acting within gods covenant.

Jesus was circumcised and you eat shellfish.

He was right about staying far away from niggers. RIP.

Yes, but as this post demonstrates, he was near Indians, so it was a pyrrhic victory.

 

[Potion_Time]

Jesus was circumcised and you eat shellfish.

Jesus fulfilled the law and you crucified him and spit on your god.

You even said to let his blood be upon you and your children.

You no longer worship god, kike. You haven't worshiped god for 2000 years now.

 

[Mister Eveready]

If I had a nickel for every time someone who was a pioneer in their field died from an easily treatable cancer because they insisted on alternative medicine until it was too late, I’d have two nickels. It’s not much, but it’s weird that it happened twice. RIP.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

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Truly some charming people aren't they...

Probably all the same people who freaked about the evil right wingers not mourning the psycho who tried to run down the ICE agent while fleeing, too.

Remember when he said Republicans would be hunted in the streets if Biden won in 2020?

He was a little early on the call, but it definitely started happening.

I'm not sure how or why one would be pro-vaccination but using also using ivermectin, is there some lore here that I'm not aware of? The ivermectin thing was infamously something the vaccine crowd mocked anti-science people for.

People are retarded and saying he forwent all other treatments in favor of ivermectin, when a couple other people in the thread, or maybe just the one, said it was really just one of many things he tried as it was looking like he wouldn't get through it. The fatal mistake here is assuming that he's not open minded no matter what side you think he's one. The people in this thread can't even fucking decide if the covid shot causes blood clots or cancer.