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Should be a wild four years.

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Sure, you might write them off as filthy diaspora who need to go back anyway but the norm for the anywhere-but-here flag waving diaspora is to blindly, performatively support the old country while living anywhere but.
You can love your homeland and hate the crooked pricks in charge of it. That is one of the oldest tenets of republicanism and classical liberalism.
 
the forever wars were undoubtedly a massive blow to how americans view even legitimate uses of force outside our borders
and I can't pretend that is unwarranted.
But what marks the difference between 20 years in afghanistan and a 5 hour "mom pick me up" within spitting distance should be obvious.

I understand those points of view and in the next few decades it might be the only overlapping point between the left and right
because regardless of party, the Bush and Obama years of slow, aimless counterinsurgency did more to curb the american appetite for war than
the relatively shorter and hotter viet nam conflict.
It's obvious to anyone who is honest but most third worldist pundits are dishonest and lying to people who don't know the difference. You saw the same thing happen with Iran.
 
So if it doesn't recognize the legitimacy of Venezuela's government then how can they recognize the intervention? This isn't Russia-Ukraine, there was a legitimate and long standing reason for this with ~50 nations not recognizing Maduro's legitimacy and it was done cleanly overnight. Should international law require the official condemnation by all major countries (which Russia and China would never give) and then turn into a protracted guerilla warfare campaign in the jungle and mountains?
 
A significant amount of the extremely online right have been subverted into thinking that anything that the US government does is due to Jews

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It's funny to see the coping but also very disturbing to see right wingers turned into quislings due to brainrot from Tucker and co
It's very obvious that some group has realized that the Israel vector / MIGA is the most effective, and possibly only, real wedge they can use to divide Trump from his base, and has been pushing hard for anything positive Trump does to be painted as bad because it connects to Israel in some way. And I say this as someone who despises the Israeli government, and the egregious amount of Jews internally who have done everything they can to defile and destroy this country.
That said, handling Venezuela is much more of a positive for the U.S. than for Israel. The new Venezuelan President being more pro-Israel is much less of a big deal for Israel than disrupting an international communist drug cartel state that has actively been funding our enemies and funneling drugs into our nation is for us. And we did it in a way that, thus far, will probably bring us a lot of good will from the Venezuelan people. We took out a horrific tyrant who was causing us trouble with, from what I've heard so far, no fatalities.

Today's actions are something to be celebrated. If it does end up being some kind of positioning that will only benefit Israel in the long-run, then so be it, but for now I'll take solace in what appears to be a really good move from Trump, and something that hopefully has started a set of moves that will lead to a better, more stable, LATAM region.
 
The NFL's executives and the superbowl tranny deserve to be waterboarded at Gitmo. And massive use of the death penalty is needed to unscrew the plague in Blue America.

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Wtf does this even mean? Don’t recognize the intervention? It’s already done. It’s also an event that happened not a territorial claim or new puppet government or anything like that.

It doesn’t even make sense. Fucking retards.

Maybe the VZs also didn’t recognize the intervention, that’s why there was no resistance…
 
The new Venezuelan President being more pro-Israel is much less of a big deal for Israel than disrupting an international communist drug cartel state that has actively been funding our enemies and funneling drugs into our nation is for us.
At this point I think it would be funny if the next Venezuelan president had to also put on the tiny hat and kiss the wall.
 
The odds are that Maduro is getting the death penalty right?
He's 63. In the U.S., the death penalty can be pushed by through appeals and whatnot for 20+ years.
Even if he's deserving of death, since they're doing this the "proper" way, he'll most likely never see that justice. If they want him dead, he'll "hang himself" or be "stabbed by a prisoner" instead.
 
Take this report with a grain of salt because I can't confirm it but I have seen multiple sources I trust say that F-22's were the SEAD force and that the Venezuelans never even got a return on their radars the whole time the Raptor's were in their airspace. Even as the missiles were hitting the SAM sites the Venezuelans had zero clue what was happening.

No doubt both Russia and the Chinks are paying close attention, those Raptor's are bloody scary.
The F22 is an air superiority fighter and was never upgraded to be a multirole fighter with ground attack capability.
 
This is the same Spain who has a total ban on Israeli technology being used to manufacture anything in Spain that they had to lift because Airbus uses Israeli technology to manufacture planes.

They aren't serious people.

It's very obvious that some group has realized that the Israel vector / MIGA is the most effective, and possibly only, real wedge they can use to divide Trump from his base, and has been pushing hard for anything positive Trump does to be painted as bad because it connects to Israel in some way. And I say this as someone who despises the Israeli government, and the egregious amount of Jews internally who have done everything they can to defile and destroy this country.
It only really works on third worlders and stupid people. It's losing its luster to the point where memes mocking "goyim" are mainstream now.
 
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