Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Harvey Danger]

This may not be the long-awaited killshot, but it feels as though Mr. Hardship, Esq. is calculating his firing solution.

Hardin is going to force these judges to learn the difference between a forum and Google Drive, if he has to tardstomp every AI-generated sentence to do it.

 

[obsdj]

Edit:

Please don't edit to reply to somebody who posted after you did, it's confusing especially in a fast-moving thread.

I disagree. Attacking Greer on multiple fronts, however petty, seems to be very effective. Greer very quickly gets overwhelmed when the pace picks up, which gets him to start making huge mistakes.

That's what I said. You quoted me saying it.

Hardin is going to force these judges to learn the difference between a forum and Google Drive, if he has to tardstomp every AI-generated sentence to do it.

Assuming they actually read his filings, ah ha ha ha. Maybe they're working on their new year's resolutions.

 

[Silver Coin Anon]

I don't see it being helpful. Pissing Greer off so hard that he keeps fucking up is useful,

Look at the writing... the chain citations, the multi-direction arguments, layers of logic. Greer is goong to have to gaslight the prompt box. GreePeeTea is going to fail HARD on this when combined with his lies and all the other book-as-evidence filings. The strategy to fight a GreePeeTea liar is to force him to have to defend his current ego by arguing against his past self by telling new lies that agree with defendant's old positions via his LLM plight rewriting. It will never recover even if a new session is made because all new documents rely on hundreds of insane and aisloppah filings that do NOT follow average legal filings and are so unique as to need a human mind with memory to even hope to discern.

My recommendation is to find ethical and proper ways to cite reallllllyy old filings and quote snippets from it over the most tangled aspects of law and his claims while strategically detailing what he meant then helps defendant's current claims. As ego-hurting as possible. He then starts lieing to ChatGPT prompts by arguing against his own self. As the model loops back over recent posts and content it will snowball his lies and plightsperging.

 

[Terrifik]

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The tactical nuke has been dropped.

 

[Catboy Ranch Dressing]

That's what I said. You quoted me saying it.

I agreed that it'll make Greer fuck up, but I disagreed with you saying it wouldn't be helpful.

 

[Sexy Potoo]

Those arguments dp so hard....

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Clearly, Greee thinks Hardin is going to jump in order to close distance and attack with an aerial medium kick. A Dragon Punch is the correct legal counter play in this scenario.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Meh. Except insofar as this particular tactic enrages Greer to the point of flailing and making inexcusable errors, I don't see it being helpful. Pissing Greer off so hard that he keeps fucking up is useful, but I can't see the judges appreciating this, assuming for funsies that they bother to even read it.

I think it's a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing but it was Greer that (for no good fucking reason at all) decided to publish a large- but carefully selected- portion of his book on pacer and so has to flounder about due to the entirely predictable repercussions. Giving Russ trauma lumps so he ends up doing something else incredibly stupid may have value. How many more parallel legal actions may he attempt? When will his next profanity-ridden email be entered into the case record? When will the clerks start 'accidentally' misplacing his shit?

If the docket gets fucking unruly enough, maybe that will be sufficient for someone to finally drop the hammer on the whole thing, in the only way they can- by dismissing the case. They may not like the defendants but they can't like Greer either and this is what every stage of the lawsuit is going to look like (and after 5ish years, discovery hasn't even been started in a meaningful way).

 

[obsdj]

Giving Russ trauma lumps so he ends up doing something else incredibly stupid may have value.

Yup, that's what I said.

If the docket gets fucking unruly enough, maybe that will be sufficient for someone to finally drop the hammer on the whole thing, in the only way they can- by dismissing the case. They may not like the defendants but they can't like Greer either and this is what every stage of the lawsuit is going to look like (and after 5ish years, discovery hasn't even been started in a meaningful way).

I suspect with filings like this we're just irritating the judges almost as much as Greer is, but the judges are the ones who have refused to drop the hammer long before now, for way less. I'm wondering, not for the first time, whether either of them even know they have the option to say, "Arright, no more filings without prior approval until we rule on the motion to dismiss."

 

[DavidS877]

I'm waiting for the court to order Greer to produce his book in full.
Then he complains he doesn't actually have the full copy and has no idea how to get it.
Hilarity continues.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I'm waiting for the court to order Greer to produce his book in full.
Then he complains he doesn't actually have the full copy and has no idea how to get it.
Hilarity continues.

He'd download it for fReeeee before buying it.

 

[Unknown God]

Those arguments dp so hard....

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He has an army of autistic men who would do it for free... come on Mr. Hardin, I know you are a real lawyer and have real cases to deal with but at least get a proof reader for the retarded ones.

 

[AnOminous]

Please don't edit to reply to somebody who posted after you did, it's confusing especially in a fast-moving thread.

I generally do this if I made a mistake and someone corrected me. I don't want my original dumb statement (or simply misinformed statement where facts unavailable at the time show up) to stand especially if it's highlighted or something and the response isn't, since someone very well may miss the correction. Link to the correction to eliminate confusion.

I'm wondering, not for the first time, whether either of them even know they have the option to say, "Arright, no more filings without prior approval until we rule on the motion to dismiss."

The problem is Null has insisted on this because of previous instances judges have pulled the "ha ha you didn't respond to this so we're ruling for the retard" trick. These tardshielding dipshits would definitely pull that.

 

[Greasy Goblin]

The problem is Null has insisted on this because of previous instances judges have pulled the "ha ha you didn't respond to this so we're ruling for the retard" trick. These tardshielding dipshits would definitely pull that.

It seems to me there's a very real possibility that they've been wanting to, and may be seething that Hardin keeps replying as he does because it limits their options on how rule in favor of Greer. They haven't been finding the technicalities to try and screw null that they're looking for, so they just kick back and relax and wait for the opportunity, which never seems to come... That or the judges are simply disgraceful lazy retards who can't accomplish simple tasks, which tbh would also help them empathize with Greer's plight.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

It seems to me there's a very real possibility that they've been wanting to, and may be seething that Hardin keeps replying as he does because it limits their options on how rule in favor of Greer. They haven't been finding the technicalities to try and screw null that they're looking for, so they just kick back and relax and wait for the opportunity, which never seems to come... That or the judges are simply disgraceful lazy retards who can't accomplish simple tasks, which tbh would also help them empathize with Greer's plight.

Just because the judges don't make this civil case their top priority doesn't mean they are helping Greer. Take your meds.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

It seems to me there's a very real possibility that they've been wanting to, and may be seething that Hardin keeps replying as he does because it limits their options on how rule in favor of Greer. They haven't been finding the technicalities to try and screw null that they're looking for, so they just kick back and relax and wait for the opportunity, which never seems to come... That or the judges are simply disgraceful lazy retards who can't accomplish simple tasks, which tbh would also help them empathize with Greer's plight.

They must really hate Null because Greer has done nothing but disrespect their court. It’s honestly kind of shocking considering how anal judges tend to be about decorum.

 

[Pelican Bones]

Meh. Except insofar as this particular tactic enrages Greer to the point of flailing and making inexcusable errors, I don't see it being helpful. Pissing Greer off so hard that he keeps fucking up is useful, but I can't see the judges appreciating this, assuming for funsies that they bother to even read it.

I am not a lawyer, but clearly neither are you. Hardin is being paid to come up with anything he can to defend his client, not amuse a judge. Hardin knows how the game is supposed to go and, ostensibly, so do the judges.

 

[Tiresome]

It seems to me there's a very real possibility that they've been wanting to, and may be seething that Hardin keeps replying as he does because it limits their options on how rule in favor of Greer. They haven't been finding the technicalities to try and screw null that they're looking for, so they just kick back and relax and wait for the opportunity, which never seems to come... That or the judges are simply disgraceful lazy retards who can't accomplish simple tasks, which tbh would also help them empathize with Greer's plight.

I think, even given our increasingly personal and malicious times, that Hanlon's Razor more appropriately applies in this case.

 

[Greasy Goblin]

Just because the judges don't make this civil case their top priority doesn't mean they are helping Greer. Take your meds.

Fair, but I've been following it for awhile and in my eyes every time the judges say nothing for long enough they accrue benefit of the doubt, out of people assuming sanity over insanity. Go back to immediately after some of the rulings and you'll find speculation far more extreme than "I think the judges are biased against null and Hardin has been effective at keeping them at bay".

They must really hate Null because Greer has done nothing but disrespect their court. It’s honestly kind of shocking considering how anal judges tend to be about decorum.

This is one of the big reasons I assume they have to be biased in some way. It just seems beneath judges to allow this to go on as it has, but maybe I just had too much respect for the courts to begin with...

 

[Sneed Force One]

I think it’s worth grounding ourselves in the wider context: viewed holistically, this case is little more than an autistic screaming match with negligible stakes for the judiciary.
There is significant stake to Kiwifarms, Jewsh continues to suffer the AI-hallucinated delusions of a sexual predator to great monetary cost.
The stakes are also real for Greer, insofar as the litigation functions as a vehicle for his fantasies of power and control: a means to frame genetic grievances as moral crusades and to accuse others of ableism on demand.

But for the court itself, it is difficult to imagine this registering as anything more than a low-priority nuisance, another entry flagged by case-management software as “overdue,” rather than a matter of importance.
Its best to keep that idea in mind whenever your wondering why two judges won't adjudicate this case.

 

[Unknown God]

Just because the judges don't make this civil case their top priority doesn't mean they are helping Greer. Take your meds.

Normally I would agree with you but I am still butthurt about Barlow, after doing literally fucking nothing for an eternity, suddenly sprung forward to break the law and protect Greer in his first sanction. And even though he did charge Greer an extra $500 (which is nothing compared to the real fees) it took him a very long period of eating Greer's shit before he decided enough was enough.