Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[The Dude]

Maybe I missed this in the thread, but I did not notice that Greee had deliberately removed “How I Falsely Became Known as Frivolous, Litigious, and Crazy” from the book title.

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LOL

Funny, ain't it? It's almost like Russhole experienced a itty-bitty glimmer of self-awareness here, realized the full title would look pretty bad to the court as he YET AGAIN is using the legal system to bully people into giving him what he wants, so he tried to hide it by shortening the title and hoped no one would notice it. Of course, with a rabid dog attorney like His Royal Hardship, and a bunch of obsessive autists following every turn of this case, it wouldn't go overlooked for long.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

The problem with Greer's AI is the same with all LLMs, they have no ability to compartmentalize time and arguments like a true thinking mind. The model is building up sanctionable and even criminal statements at rapid speeds

AI is useful too, but people fall into the trap of using incorrectly, like using the butt of a power drill to hammer in nails. LLMs can summarize and make good arguments provided you feed it the right details and tardgaurd it so it doesn't hallucinate and make up citations. It needs to be watched carefully and fact checked by a human who can make sure its not fucking up. Good brainstorming tool however. For a normal case, starting from scratch, I think it would work smoother, but Mr. Greers lies, convoluted arguments, malicious omissions snd retarded motions confuse it and overwhelm it. Not to mention this case involves time travel with a timeline is all screwed up from the getgo so the LLM starts filling in the blanks forgetting minute important details that make or break a case.

Its been established that Greer is stupid & has no idea how legalese works so its no wonder he can't use AI properly to do slop filings that incriminate him.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Truth really is stranger than fiction. Holy shit, Hardin actually did it. Ow, my sides.

Russ, you magnificent retard. Jersh just "tricked" you into torpedoing your own case.

This might be a bit premature, since the entire book is not yet part of the public record, but it's always a good time to remember that:

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

If his entire book ends up in the public domain (not used as a legal term here) via legal briefs, does that negate the copyright infringement claims, because now literally everyone can read and distribute the text?

Public record doesn't necessarily equal public domain (although practically it could, if one can just link people to the relevant court document attachment).

In any case, it doesn't negate claims of previous copyright infringement and damages that may have occurred in the years beforehand.

It's funny, though, and effectively achieves a similar end to what a poster would want here- to make sure that people can see the batshit crazy stuff that Russ has written.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Can someone explain why including the book you are suing a website over copyright for ends up in the court filing and how does this affect the case?

Also gree might be unaware of what AI hallucinations are but I'm all for it, the more ai shite he files the more his undoing will be, every filling he makes is showing us all his true lolcows behaviour.

 

[HackerX]

All this over Russ not really understand what Hardin's attempting to accomplish. Something something legal tactics something something. Funny how Russ focuses on the copyright portion of his 'this is a copyright case' sperging, but never the case portion. You know, the thing you typically pays lawyers to handle because of all the processes/procedures a lawsuit entails. The types of things that'll inevitably bite you in the ass because you didn't do shit in the right order, or state something a certain way. Yeah, Russ has gotten A LOT of leeway because he's pro se, but he's clearly incapable of litigating this himself even with the tardguard.

You really don't want to file a mandamus unless absolutely necessary because they're usually not granted and if they aren't you've pissed off the judge

At some point I'm sure AI will either tell Russ to do it, or he'll just inadvertently include it when he copy/paste the output without skimming through.

I would hope that if the judges are waiting for Cox v Sony to conclude, then the least they could do is give this case a "Motion to shut the fuck up" like they did to Acerthorn, if only to prevent the defense from accruing undue costs.

I'm chuckling at the idea that one of the judges granted Hardin's request to pause everything, but forgot to hit send. Then one day they'll glance at what's on the docket and realize the mistake.

 

[Dumbledore's Onlyfans]

Can someone explain why including the book you are suing a website over copyright for ends up in the court filing and how does this affect the case?

Also gree might be unaware of what AI hallucinations are but I'm all for it, the more ai shite he files the more his undoing will be, every filling he makes is showing us all his true lolcows behaviour.

I wish Hardin would request a witness disclosure on the other hooker who will purportedly impeach Natalie Bank's testimony. As far as we know, he might have already done so, since a quick email to Rusty would be the proper way to handle it, rather than another filing.

Of course, Rusty already agreed that he wouldn't be calling any witnesses at all, so the point might be moot. My head is spinning like an abused AI bot with all these new filings.

 

[DumbDude43]

>judge rules on 1 thing
>greer files 10 new things
>hardin files 10 new things
>repeat
how is this case ever supposed to end? the amount of unresolved motions that are awaiting an answer form the court keeps growing and growing and growing, discovery is stayed/postponed indefinitely, and nobody involved in the case seems to be interested in progressing towards a trial.
at this rate the case will only end when greer dies of old age

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Can someone explain why including the book you are suing a website over copyright for ends up in the court filing and how does this affect the case?

thats just something that naturally happens when you sue a website thinking you have a slam dunk copyright case to get back at the gosh darn trolls, but you lie on the poorfag form and fail to disclose that you spend thousands on whores in the desert, then a friend of one of those whores makes contact with the defense counsel in your case to tell them youre a creepy freak and they corroborate it with the book raising a new kind of fair use defense, which sends you into a state of rage so in a last act of desperation you try to submit a part of the book that makes you look good (it doesnt really), and then defense counsel forces you to also include the parts of the book that dont (the entire rest of it)

will it affect the case? no, the judges will never read it, or anything else in any other filing ever again
jokes aside for russhole it does literally nothing, but for null it may help win an eventual trial or lower the costs if he somehow loses

 

[obsdj]

I wish Hardin would request a witness disclosure on the other hooker who will purportedly impeach Natalie Bank's testimony. As far as we know, he might have already done so, since a quick email to Rusty would be the proper way to handle it, rather than another filing.

Of course, Rusty already agreed that he wouldn't be calling any witnesses at all, so the point might be moot. My head is spinning like an abused AI bot with all these new filings.

Knowing Greer, we'll probably see portions of an email chain soon in which Hardin requests the disclosure of this other hooker while offhandedly reminding Greer of the stipulation in which he agreed he wouldn't call any other witnesses and if he reneges on that, his dad and brother are up for grabs, and then Greer replies with another spittle-flecked hissyfit, and Hardin casually reminds Greer of what happened to him last time he fucked around and/or lied about witnesses and how much it could cost him if he pulls it again, and he can expect a 21-day sanctions motion to be served if he doesn't correct the record about this fictional other hooker, and Greer flies off the handle and submits parts of the exchange as a Supplemental Authority, and Hardin has to reply with the full email chain.

Fingers crossed.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The closest Hardin has come to an actual shitpost filing. Yes, I know, there's reason for getting the book on record, but still.

On a related note, it's funny how Greer insists he deletes all these old documents, filings, and other important items of a legally important nature. But somehow, despite losing two laptops full of important documents and cursing his unreliable iPhone, he still has a pristine copy of an even older document: his book.

He probably downloaded it today from Google Drive using the link on Kiwifarms

 

[RodgerDodger]

Truth really is stranger than fiction. Holy shit, Hardin actually did it. Ow, my sides.

Russ, you magnificent retard. Jersh just "tricked" you into torpedoing your own case.

This might be a bit premature, since the entire book is not yet part of the public record, but it's always a good time to remember that:

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Given how many Torpedos are already in the water that should be case ending, this is the least of it. Remember he still has not produced the discovery document that the court ordered him to produce 4 fucking times over the course of a full year.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

He probably downloaded it today from Google Drive using the link on Kiwifarms

This isn't the screenshots of the kindle edition uploaded to googledrive

Edit: In fact, if he claims THIS is the document he downloaded through the link on kiwifarms, that DISPROVES it

 

[Billy Bong]

Welp, that's Monday in the books. I really look forward to the rest of the week! What a wild ride!

 

[obsdj]

This isn't the screenshots of the kindle edition uploaded to googledrive

Now that you've got me looking:


Um...um...um...

 

[BoomerPrime]

Welp, that's Monday in the books. I really look forward to the rest of the week! What a wild ride!

What are you talking about bud? There's still another 90 minutes before the Clerk's office closes. Shitlips can definitely cram at least three more plightfiles into the cannon.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Given how many Torpedos are already in the water that should be case ending, this is the least of it. Remember he still has not produced the discovery document that the court ordered him to produce 4 fucking times over the course of a full year.

If I didn't know better, it would look like Hardin and Greer are conspiring to throw up a smokescreen to make everyone forget about that whole thing. I did until you just reminded me, shit that was 20? 40? filings ago!

Wait is is "Frivolous, Litigious, and Crazy" or "Litigious, Frivolous, and Crazy"?

 

[Harvey Danger]

it's also kind of weird because like, you can just download the YouTube transcriptions which are often quite accurate.

I'm doing a rough side by side comparison, and Greer's AI actually seems to be better than what Youtube provides. But there's too many minor issues to do a full diff without a hundred false positives.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

ECF 418 is gonna be Greee pulling a Crackets.

"Plaintiff knows that Plaintiff submitted evidence but that evidence was supposed to work in FAVOR of the plaintiff. It was never intended to be used to go AGAINST the plaintiff. Plaintiff respectfully asks for all mentions of his book be struck from the record and sanction Hardin for asking about it."

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

...Mabye he's trying to frantically run up Null's legal bills by spamming these motions Hardin has to respond to since he knows the case is going to get dismissed?