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Should be a wild four years.

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Noticing historical patterns has always been a method of correcting current political missteps. So, sperging about Roman history is somewhat relevant.

Rome isn't comparable to America in any terms but the broadest and most general. Yes, foreigners are intruding. Yes, the work situation is fucked. Yes, there's a population of constant cultural burdens. However, we don't have succession/civil wars, we aren't debasing the currency nearly as hard as certain emperors, there are no foreign hordes constantly attacking the borders in a military way, and we aren't a central power that draws wealth from conquered, inherently rebellious and consistently pressured border provinces. There are parallels, and they should be studied and guarded against, but if America falls it won't be anything like Rome.

It’s also preferable to Jew-sperging, which only results in users daring each other to post their noses.
This is the real truth. Roma Invicta, Ivdea Delenda Est.
 
Mother Jones has teamed up with a couple of people with Down Syndrome to talk about how Trump’s Medicaid cuts will make 15 million disabled people suffer.
In late April, podcasters Audrey Presby and Jeremy Fraser decided to venture out of their studio in California to head to Washington, DC.

It was not the most joyous occasion: Presby and Fraser, both of whom have Down syndrome, were there to plead with House representatives not to vote to pass the sweeping health care funding cuts in President Donald Trump’s so-called One Big Beautiful Bill (OBBB).

“A lot of people are going to feel terrified, petrified, scared of what’s going to happen next,” Presby said in a viral clip of the podcast.

Much to the fear of the disabled and low-income people who rely on it, Congress voted to pass the OBBB in early July, which will lead to around $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts over the course of the next decade.

Presby and Fraser, who are in a relationship, both receive support through home and community-based services waivers (HCBS), an amendment to the Social Security Act enacted under the Reagan administration to give qualifying disabled people on Medicaid resources to live outside institutional settings like nursing homes.

States have separate programs, and the overall system is not perfect—some people have to remain on waitlists for more than a decade to get a waiver, which can feel like a golden ticket.

States making brutal decisions about how to implement overall Medicaid funding cuts—which services to reduce or eliminate—will likely look to optional programs like HCBS.

But that would mean long-term costs, rather than savings: A recent report from the California Health Care Foundation found that a 10 percent cut to HCBS programs would lead to $1 billion more in Medicaid spending in the state that Fraser and Presby call home, due to the greater overall costs of institutionalization.

People like Presby and Fraser, said Kristianna Moralls of the Self-Determination Institute, “are able to use these Medicaid funds for helpers who teach cooking and cleaning, money management, so they can live more independently and be part of their community.”

Reveal‘s Rachel de Leon, a new mom to a baby boy with Down syndrome, relies on federal funding to pay for the critical therapy services her son receives to meet milestones like sitting up independently and crawling. She spent the day with Presby and Fraser to see how they apply their Medicaid waivers to activities that teach critical skills that extend beyond the traditional models of physical or occupational therapy.

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I was very emotional on the podcast. It’s because my Friends and myself think about (not just me, but others): What if they will cut it?

And it's gonna be hard for Everyone to see what's gonna happen next.

If they do cut it, the Down Syndrome Community will not be the same.
- Jeremy Fraser on the Medicaid cuts in Trump’s OBBB. And taking the words out of Audrey Presby’s mouth. Powerful stuff indeed.
 
there are no foreign hordes constantly attacking the borders in a military way
Yeah instead of fighting them our elites let them in and gave them free stuff. just like the Romans eventually did. We gave up the territory without any fighting. How is that better?

we aren't debasing the currency nearly as hard as certain emperors,
M1 money supply yes, but what about m2 or m3 money supply? We privatized currency debasement.

we aren't a central power that draws wealth from conquered, inherently rebellious
Instead we fund terrorist groups with drug money to overthrow governments instead. That's caused way more global instability.

but if America falls it won't be anything like Rome
Agree bigly, our fall will be far worse. I unironically believe the Internet will, so long as it stays free, will be the thing that stops the disaster.

Obvious book recommendations are decline and fall of the roman empire by gibbons, decline of the west by spangler. The beginning of Tradegy and Hope starts with a section on spangler and the cycle of empires.
 
I like how the Epstein emails have been such a mess that the only genuinely damning thing people can actually glean from it about Trump is him possibly sucking Bill Clinton's dick.

Shit the Bill Clinton part isn't even true, according to Epstein's brother the "Bubba" he mentioned in the texts isn't even a referance to Bill. So it's either completely made up or some random other dude named bubba.

The rest of it has either been absolute nothingburgers or exposing democrats for cozying up with ol Jeffy themselves. What a complete shitshow.
 
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Before the week starts off, I want to provide a small stream of thought that has been brewing within me for a while now. Thankfully, it’s not history-related; so, I will not embarrass myself. There are some politics involved, and there is an underlying message that can be shared.

A few weeks ago, I went fishing with my buddy, who always seemed chipper and happy about life. He would be vulgar or crass but never in a serious manner. It was seemingly only to jest.

As we fished, I learned that the guy I was talking to out in public has been a complete persona. He was extremely pessimistic, undeniably nihilistic, and irreversibly angry. I have never seen someone so uncertain about his future. Though he is a brilliant student, he recognized that he may never find a job because of unqualified third-worlders, rambled about how his future is being stolen from him by racial inferiors. To him, the idea of affording a house is impossible, and he simply resigned himself to the notion of living in an apartment for most of his life.

Then, his views on women completely shocked me, expressing support for repealing the 19th Amendment, rejecting equality of intelligence or worth between the sexes, and regarding every woman as mentally ill until proven otherwise. To be fair to him, he was stalked by a girl for several years, and the one girl that he was really interested in at college turned out to be a whore who slept with seven different men by the end of her first semester.

That day, I realized that my sense of frustration and dread about the future of myself and my country was not unique to me. As I have made more acquaintances, I have noticed that men infer “something wrong” about current circumstances, leading to a quiet resignation of life that completely paralyzes them. All of us feel like something is off, but we can’t do anything about it. We have been brutalized by modern government and education: We were told by teachers and politicians that we, White men, are the pinnacles of evil and that our say has no merit; we have been given little choice but to join universities because of school indoctrination and the limited space in blue collar occupations, which are increasingly being given away to foreigners; and our sense of dignity and worth have been stolen. Then, most of the girls we have ever been with were brain-washed by feminism and its twisted moral tenets. Overall, men have little prospect of finding economic prosperity, building up their esteem, or marrying a woman who doesn’t constantly go to therapy and has to be on SSRIs.

It was comforting to know that I am not isolated in my perception of the world. Surprisingly, he was always the outwardly happy person in our group, which made my revelation on that fishing day much more impactful. On campus, we have to fake our conformity to the ivory tower’s doctrines to even consider surviving, and the cognitive-dissonance created by has effectively poisoned the upcoming generations to completely accept or reject it.

The fishing trip did raise good questions, How many Gen-Z men have this same mentality, and what’s the implications of it? Personally, I think that Gen-Z will begin the era of political assassinations and popular unrest. Our prospects are so bad that many of us are resorting to either communism or Naziism.

The hopelessness that he expressed, to me, has revealed the general sentiments of men who are now going into the world: Things are going to shit; jobs are disappearing; houses are becoming more expensive; and the idea of family has become nearly impossible. Campus or places where anti -White or feminist messages are constantly peddled feel like a powder keg.

His doomerism would put Fatpack’s to shame, all a product of the ways in which he was educated or treated by other people, including women. It was tough to see him crack from the weight, but it revealed to me a broader, more quiet revolution acting in the midst of modern society.

I want things to change immediately for the sake of the future, for both my friend and myself.

Edit: Corrected some obvious typos.
 
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Yeah instead of fighting them our elites let them in and gave them free stuff. just like the Romans eventually did. We gave up the territory without any fighting. How is that better?
American citizens aren't being forced to fight off barbarian invasions, wasting the treasury, depleting our human capital and forcing reliance on mercenaries. People are dying from lots of foreigner-caused problems, but we haven't had a Teutoberg Forest or a Goths/Vandals/Attila tier disaster (no, Vietnam doesn't count.) We haven't had Washington D.C. sacked and the empire split down the middle. More to the point, such things are 99% impossible unless many, many, many things go horrifically wrong.
M1 money supply yes, but what about m2 or m3 money supply? We privatized currency debasement.
The economy is fake and gay, but that fakeness and gayness is saving it for now because the powers that be can make it faker and gayer in new and interesting ways. Rome's economy was less fake and gay because it was actually based on something tangible, and was therefore much more vulnerable.
Instead we fund terrorist groups with drug money to overthrow governments instead. That's caused way more global instability.
Nominally, that serves American interests. It's retarded and evil, but things like Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, the Sandinistas, etc. were all meant to prop up American hegemony and didn't drag us into border war. Other people's instability has never been a concern of American glowies. They thrive in chaos.
Agree bigly, our fall will be far worse. I unironically believe the Internet will, so long as it stays free, will be the thing that stops the disaster
Double agree. My main point is that America isn't like Rome in any of the details that matter. Similar, but not comparable beyond the surface. If/when America falls, it'll be either catastrophic or pathetic.
 
to have a Cult of Niceness
Nothing really encapsulates this better than Tyler's video on Hamtramck Michigan.
TL;DW Hippie boomer has to yell at the imported Muslim teens to accept the gay nigga flag. The kids laugh at his face and tell him they have no respect for him and his believes, they then start egging houses. It's a great but tragic irony that the Boomers have so thoroughly ruined this country that they can no long brow beat the youth into accepting their bullshit liberalism.
 
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Do you think he swirls his hair in the shape of a piece of poop on purpose, or did he just tell his hair stylist he wanted the Jimmy Neutron look and they fucked it up?

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Also to be fair to Vivek, he didn't call Ohioans lazy (this time), but he did present a problem (people are in all-time high poverty), frame a non-sequitor metric he would have no control over as a solution (kids need to read by 3rd grade), and then proceeded to restate the metric as how he is going to fix it without providing any actual substance (when I'm governor I'm going to make sure kids can read by 3rd grade).

It's kind of like watching your 3rd grade son run for class president. They don't know what they're doing, and just emulating stereotypical politicians: "kids don't like coming to class, so when I'm President we'll give out free candy and soda to every student every day. Now the teachers might not like that, and some kids might not like that either, but we're going to bring it to reality." Except this isn't a child running for class president, it's an Indian man in his 30s, with poo-swirled hair, running for governor of a state.

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Why do jeets always default to laziness as to why people are dumb, poor or any economical issue? Especially when they are among the laziest and dumbest.
 
Why do jeets always default to laziness as to why people are dumb, poor or any economical issue? Especially when they are among the laziest and dumbest.
Surviving in india is very hard work for a normal person, not to mention for people with sub-80 IQ.

The sheer effort the average jeet puts in to not stand in front of a train that particular day is truly immense, you lazy whiteys wouldn't get it.
 
Noticing historical patterns has always been a method of correcting current political missteps. So, sperging about Roman history is somewhat relevant.

It’s also preferable to Jew-sperging, which only results in users daring each other to post their noses.

Is there a relegated Rome sperging thread? For the spicy historical takes. Because that could be a funny discussion.

On Elon: his autistic urge to fake skills and knowledge is a pattern. We already know he cheats at games so it's not surprising he would boast about being a history buff. It becomes less funny when he's affecting public policy with his retard opinions.
 
A few weeks ago, I went fishing with my buddy, who always seemed chipper and happy about life. He would be vulgar or crass but never in a serious manner. It was seemingly only to jest.

As we fished, I learned that the guy I have man talking to out in public has been a complete persona. He was extremely pessimistic, undeniably nihilistic, and irreversibly angry. I have never seen someone so uncertain about his future. Though he is a brilliant student, he recognized that he may never find a job because of unqualified third-worlders, rambled about how his future is being stolen from him by racial inferiors. To him, the idea of affording a house is impossible, and he simply resigned himself to the notion of living in an apartment for most of his life.

Then, his views on women completely shocked me, expressing support for repealing the 19th Amendment, rejecting equality of intelligence or worth between the sexes, and regarding every woman as mentally ill until proven otherwise. To be fair to him, he was stalked by a girl for several years, and the one girl that he was really interested in at college turned out to be a whore who slept with seven different men by the end of her first semester at the college.
I've decided to stop reading here and will believe you told this man to pull himself up by his bootstraps, look his boss in the eye and offer a firm handshake. Then once you were certain he couldn't isolate you in the woods and kill you, you reported him to HR and the FBI. This is probably a more entertaining and believable ending to the post than whatever you decided to write.
 
Can't shake the uneasy feeling that a new controlled opposition faction is being intentionally formed from the biggest grifters with the most toxic reputations (Tucker, Candace, MTG, Fuentes) for the purpose of poisoning the parts of MAGA populism (especially anti-immigration) that TPTB are most afraid of
 
Can't shake the uneasy feeling that a new controlled opposition faction is being intentionally formed from the biggest grifters with the most toxic reputations (Tucker, Candace, MTG, Fuentes) for the purpose of poisoning the parts of MAGA populism (especially anti-immigration) that TPTB are most afraid of
Tucker and Fuentes basically go where the money is. Does anyone take Candace Owens seriously? MTG is laughed at by everyone.
 
Tucker and Fuentes basically go where the money is. Does anyone take Candace Owens seriously? MTG is laughed at by everyone.
That's my point though, if positions like "end H1Bs and kick the jeets out" get associated with these clowns in the public eye, it's poisonous to actually advancing those policies
 
The US Flag at the WH has fallen.
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camwtss [score hidden] an hour ago

thats rather creepy, because they have been playing the national anthem on a loop over the speakers .. with a fallen flag?

SilverL0rdTelperion [score hidden] 58 minutes ago

That's a very Fallout scenario.

Middle-Potential5765 [score hidden] 1 hour ago

Thr metaphoric symbolism is both appropriate and dark.

Narf234 [score hidden] an hour ago

Yet another photo for my kid’s future history book…

AdmiralJTKirk [score hidden] an hour ago

Optimistic of you to think they will allow books.

mzincali [score hidden] 14 minutes ago

Back in the day, Fox News would have turned this into a constitutional crisis and laid all responsibility on the Democratic President, demanding an impeachment...
 
Is Tucker pro-jeet? I only know where MTG sits on the immigration/deportations: the most selfish take.
She's the only politician I can think of who is openly pro-illegal immigration but anti-legal immigration, it's hard to take her seriously as an H1B firebrand when she was breaking ranks like a month ago crying for the poor spic laborers being deported too hard
 
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