US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[capitalBBustard]

Importing a bazillion barbarians into their territory didn't help very much.

Misread that as a billion brazilians. Would've resulted in a way quicker collapse.

 

[Fcret]

You have to understand that Elon's understanding of history is basically 2010-2014 reddit. In his mind - Rome collapsed because of Christian benchod basterds causing the dark ages by rejecting technocracy and reforming the family unit so you can't be a philandering serial baby daddy (Christianity bad, poly good, i fuckin love science). This is perfectly in line with reddit history narratives of the early 2010s.

If you're ever confused about why Elon thinks about things the way he does, just ask yourself - what would a fedora-tipping neckbeard lolbert on reddit in 2012 think about [X] and you're probably going to land in the same conceptual zip code as Elon Musk.

 

[Martian High Command]

Do we have any Rome nerds here to say who's right? Elon is so obsessed with the Mars shit that it does seem possible he might have studied the Rome collapse at some point. I don't know anything about Rome myself, I just make up references to it that project my own worldview.

To my understanding, Rome had a bigger population during it's decline than during it's golden age, which was a major part of the reason it fell. Also why no one ever replaced it.

Essentially, when Rome conquered most of Europe, there was low population density, making administration and development easy as pie. But as the population boomed, it became harder and harder to manage it without increasing decentralization, to the point you had 4 fucking emperors ruling at the same time. Then when Diocletian (?) built fortifications around every major city, every regional governor had the power base to rebel the moment the eyes of the emperors weren't on them.

Again, this became the same reason why unifying Europe has been hard. Each nation is fucking dense and relatively self-sufficient. Other reasons are valid, but these facts were the background radiation ensuring the empire's days were numbered.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

NYT: In Israel, Adams Raises Doubts About Safety of Jews in New York (archive)

Mayor Eric Adams painted an alarming picture of his city under his successor, Zohran Mamdani, saying, “If I were a Jewish New Yorker, I’d be concerned about my children.”

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

You just need ethnically and culturally cohesive society to survive and prosper.

Then why is Europe so dogshit?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Then why is Europe so dogshit?

Because it's not ethnically and culturally cohesive.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

 

[AstaSilva]

Without writing paragraphs about it, the Greek and Roman empires both collapsed due to outsourcing their military to janissaries who then received citizenship and an excessive amount of African slave labor. Elon is extremely wrong. He's also so wealthy that it really doesn't matter how wrong he is, he has fully transitioned into a Princess Morbucks style caricature of a loathsome wealthy cunt.

If by Greek Empire you mean purely the one up in Macedonia, yes. But the one in Syria lasted a very long time as did Cleopatra's and both fell for distinct reasons.

If by Greek Empire you mean Pre-Alexander; I'd have to assume you mean the strength of the greek world before they were consolidated and wrecked. In that regard, I don't think there was anything the Greeks could have done to avoid the Persians to the east and Romans to the west eventually subsuming them. But I'm a doomer.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

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Representative Jamie Raskin was involved in a plot to steal Ghislaine Maxwell's protected attorney-client emails, and was leaking them to the press under a fake whistleblower name to try and smear Trump.
Again desperation from democrats, and as always they get nothing of substance from even Ghislaine herself.
Makes you ask the question of if Raskin and dems were this desperate to find dirt on one person then what are the parts they're hiding.

And again, part of me feels like they wouldn't a had a 2nd trump term had that left the man alone.

 

[The Doom Slayer]

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Flip Floppin Fuentes strikes again

 

[Groomer Wario]

He literally just said he doesn't know or even care to know who Fuentes is. Groypers are completely irrelevant outside of their botted tweets.

It's funny watching them all sperg out about this claiming how it proves how powerful and influential they all are when they're clearly so beneath Trump's notice that he just legitimately doesn't give a fuck if Tucker Carlson interviews Nick. I don't think anything until now has made it as blatantly clear to me just how desperate these people are to be seen as important. They're like children begging to be taken seriously.

 

[babyDunk]

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BPD Mexi-catboy

 

[The Reservationist]

Rome, much like us, was allowing barbarians who did not share their intelligence to infiltrate their land and government out of desperation for cheaper labor, a loyal population of “grateful” workers, and a larger army to beat other barbarians with. I may not be a Romaboo, but I am somewhat familiar with the factors that contributed to the Roman collapse. Of course, barbarians were NOT the sole cause of the Western Roman Empire’s disintegration. Economic instability, a series of weak and corrupt emperors, general discontent, and religious schisms in the countryside all sapped the empire’s strength. However, the barbarian influx was the last nail in the coffin.

Generations of Romans killed and subjugated barbarians because they realized that they were not suited for governance or civilization, and those that tried to disrupt Roman society externally were brutally repulsed.

The White man has lost much of his pride for tradition, integrity, dignity, and civility, and the permissive attitude of modernity has birthed a situation in which we now live in the twilight years of our empire. This has all happened before, and we allowed it. Tragic.

@Martian High Command is correct in his assessment, but it is important to recognize WHY the population of the Roman Empire was so massive. By the 700s, most of its inhabitants were not Roman in culture, ethnicity, or loyalty. An alien population is a recipe for disaster.

Diocletian was already experiencing the problems associated with a mixed and huge population, and his tetrachy was a foolish attempt to mage the management of the realm easier and less centralized. Inevitably, it didn’t work, because power naturally gravitates toward a center of mass. A new powerful emperor has to emerge in correspondence with the rules of natural law.

 

[The Ugly One]

We need to prepare young men for hard physical work if we want them to take those jobs which are the ones actually in demand. Instead we will focus more time to teaching them political correctness and office work skills.

Just stop letting companies use jeets and spics as a pressure release valve. Nothing else needs to be done.

 

[AstaSilva]

He would be better off not saying anything. He's already irrevocably hurt his public image on this issue and yet he believes he can somehow do the same thing again and things will turn out differently.

tbh he should be worried about the midterms because between his crashouts and his companies' lackluster results in fulfilling public contracts, the dems are definitely going to start awarding anything and everything to his competitors

No clue how the midterms will turn out since we don't know who will be running and many will be primaried out, but, I do agree there's a valid chance GOP is hurt in which case congress will launch investigations and other crap into Musk since they're vindictive cunts

 

[Prune Tracy]

Then who’s Bubba?

MOD EDIT: This is AI/ML Generated.

Spoiler: NSFW

 

[Fcret]

No clue how the midterms will turn out since we don't know who will be running and many will be primaried out, but, I do agree there's a valid chance GOP is hurt in which case congress will launch investigations and other crap into Musk since they're vindictive cunts

Exactly - he should be doing everything he can to not split the right and that includes holding his tongue on issues like this which will just trigger further chimpouts and alienation on the right.

But alas - Vitamin K and BPD Pussy has fried his brain to where he's no longer capable of controlling himself.

 

[Fcret]

Do you think he swirls his hair in the shape of a piece of poop on purpose, or is did he just tell his hair stylist he wanted the Jimmy Neutron look and they fucked it up?

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Also to be fair to Vivek, he didn't call Ohioans lazy (this time), but he did present a problem (people are in all-time high poverty), frame a non-sequitor and metric he would have no control over as a solution (kids need to read by 3rd grade), and then proceeded to restate the metric as how he is going to fix it without providing any actual substance (when I'm governor I'm going to make sure kids can read by 3rd grade).

It's kind of like watching your 3rd grade son run for class president. They don't know what they're doing, and just emulating stereotypical politicians: "kids don't like coming to class, so when I'm President we'll give out free candy and soda to every student every day. Now the teachers might not like that, and some kids might not like that either, but we're going to bring it to reality." Except this isn't a child running for class president, it's an Indian man in his 30s, with poo-swirled hair, running for governor of a state.

I wouldn't trust any Indian on getting kids to read by third grade, considering that most Indians I know are barely literate even as adults.

 

[The Reservationist]

I see we're back at the "OMG IT'S JUST LIKE ANCIENT ROME!!! " part of the USPG2 cycle. What's the next stage, again? Nigger fatigue? Does anyone have a flowchart?

Noticing historical patterns has always been a method of correcting current political missteps. So, sperging about Roman history is somewhat relevant.

It’s also preferable to Jew-sperging, which only results in users daring each other to post their noses.

 

[Vermilion A]

While Lindsay's faction wants to return to the '00s, Massie's faction wants to return to the '10s. The Ron Paul libertarians are as much part of the old establishment right as the neocons, and equally opposed to Trumpism. Ron Paul supporters were still cool at block parties. Guys in Ron Paul shirts were eccentric, maybe, but hip with the progressive zeitgeist. Ron Swanson is a love letter to the type.

Leftists don't shoot wealthy libertarians voting for candidates with no realistic shot of winning. They make great tax mules, after all. They aren't a threat.