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Should be a wild four years.

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Yeah, I think it's too early to know whom exactly will come out on top. But I would agree that Pritzker cold be a contender, because of his wealth. He's already been constantly positioning himself as a vocal Trump critic, so it would seem likely he would like to take on the next GOP candidate for president.

I heard on some recent FOX News show that AOC isn't as interested in congress as she is in the presidency, but they might be wrong about that. I know Gavin has a lot of terrible baggage that could come back to haunt him, but he is a sociopath who wants to climb to the very top. Although, I've heard that other members of the Democrat party do not like him, so they could help sink him in the primaries.

I wonder if there are any dark horse contenders out there nobody has been mentioning?
I agree with you that pritzker how's the best chance right now, but what the Democrats don't seem to understand is that Trump is going to be gone in 2028. They aren't running against Trump, and it seems like the only thing they're going to have up their sleeve is "reeee Trump bad!!!!" Which ironically enough is how they won 2020.
But if 2024 is an indication of anything, it was that people were sick of hearing orange man bad, and also that people really didn't care that much about abortion being given to the states.
So there's three big things they're going to try to run on which is "Trump bad" which people are sick of hearing, abortion which most people don't really care about, and immigration which most people agree with Trump's handling of it.
I'm calling it right now Vance will win because they will pull the same stupidity that they did in 2024: make everything about how the other side is evil instead of making it about policy.
 
Yeah, I think it's too early to know whom exactly will come out on top. But I would agree that Pritzker cold be a contender, because of his wealth. He's already been constantly positioning himself as a vocal Trump critic, so it would seem likely he would like to take on the next GOP candidate for president.

I heard on some recent FOX News show that AOC isn't as interested in congress as she is in the presidency, but they might be wrong about that. I know Gavin has a lot of terrible baggage that could come back to haunt him, but he is a sociopath who wants to climb to the very top. Although, I've heard that other members of the Democrat party do not like him, so they could help sink him in the primaries.

I wonder if there are any dark horse contenders out there nobody has been mentioning?
Anyone worth mentioning isn't confirmed to run yet. Andy Beshear could run moderate but his blatant corruption with his father will be a point of contention and he has no real vision for America.

Governor Wes Moore could also run but his policies would be difficult to defend on a national stage, his personal life has plenty of baggage, and although he's black he doesn't have any proven record he could move the black vote. Wes Moore thrives in his rich tiny state, that's no guarantee he could win over Virginia blacks for example. That's assuming he could even make it through the primaries. Dems always SAY they want a minority, but the primaries showed they wanted Hillary, Biden, Buttigieg, Bernie, Warren, etc.

Ironically in spite of everyone pretending Dems want a new vision, they've twice chosen old visions [2016 and 2020].
 
I feel like the more people overhype how awful these other countries are to justify mass immigration the less reasonable it actually sounds to allow infinity immigration from those same places.

Like what do these bleeding-heart speds think turns those countries into violent shitholes? The weather?
 
Never mind the fact that booty judge is a complete incompetent who took maternity leave when he had a gayby.
Low key I think the photo of him in the hospital bed with the baby (as if he did anything to make the baby) will haunt him.

Blacks and Latinos see that? Its over. Especially Latinos. Its pretty much a default belief even among secular Latinos that a child needs a mother in the house. And seeing Pete adopt a son and daughter is sus. A daughter growing up without a mother, a son being raised by homosexuals. Its such a bad picture, he may as well not be christian at all.

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"Republicans should never ever ever use their power in any way that's disadvantageous to democrats and should go back to being the Mitt Romney/John McCain party of losing gracefully" is not going to ever resonate with anyone who isn't a retarded shitlib in a Post-2016 world.
You don't have to be Romney you just can't flagrantly disregard the law at every opportunity. Trump's entire deportation thing could've been done legally but he's retarded and he's surrounded himself with people who hate rule of law and the founding values.
They don’t get to have free run over my country, with free medical care and SNAP and all the happy lil government handouts that I’m ultimately paying for
Idk why this retard shit keeps going. Google "DO ILLEGALS GET SNAP" the answer is no. Illegal immigrants don't benefit from any of the social programs, but they do pay into them through things like GST. Economically they are a net benefit and basically nobody contests that, obviously that's not the only consideration though.
Anyone worth mentioning isn't confirmed to run yet
The dem candidate will be whoever is most vocally mean to republicans, for now that's Gavin but a bunch of the others will catch on and start calling trump a fat retard around the midterms. It'll be an interesting race assuming the election goes forward.
Like what do these bleeding-heart speds think turns those countries into violent shitholes? The weather?
The lib/left argument is economic circumstances and history which the tardleft filters down to colonialism or whatever. Until you can find the gene that makes mexicans do cartels, circumstances seem like the obvious answer
 
I feel like the more people overhype how awful these other countries are to justify mass immigration the less reasonable it actually sounds to allow infinity immigration from those same places.

Like what do these bleeding-heart speds think turns those countries into violent shitholes? The weather?
If these places are so bad, why aren't more just killing themselves?

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I know if I was born in India, that's what I would do. Probably Mexico too. Imagine living in mexico. Only gutter trash like Ralph can withstand that.
 
No wonder so many Americans are isolationist.
It's not even just Germany. We do a fuck ton for most of the world in regards to humanitarian shit and we get nothing but bullshit and harassment in return from most of our "allies". I'd be 100% for us going back to pre-WW2 "fuck off we're taking a nap" mode and letting the rest of the world sort their shit out until we had to come back and stop the kids from fighting again in a few decades if we had the Self-sustainability to do it.
 
Feels like you speds have no concept of what being deported actually means for your life and no commitment to any values that aren't evil and retarded.
Not my problem. My interest is me and mine.

By removing all illegals and foreign scabs by other names we restore the bargaining power of the American worker economically and his/her political power within the body-politic. It also means less competition for resources (Housing, education, healthcare, social services for those who need them, ect.)

Ill happily see every foreigner removed from these shores if it means a higher paycheck for blue and even white collar Americans and a restored way of life closer to the one I had growing up in the 90s. The only question to my mind is what to do with people like you who insist on getting in the way.
 
That's probably why their oil refiners are being hit by drones, the US Greenlit strikes into Russian territory earlier this year, they've taken virtually no ground this calendar year, and flipped out when Moscow got hit by drones. "Cautious". Their only hope to securing any gains is if Trump continues the next three years trying and failing to make a deal but he's already tired of trying and its only been 9 months. Like I said - Russia is being exposed as aggressive but not unstoppable. While America's halfhearted engagement shows tangible results. Foreign leaders are calculating accordingly, like Germany no longer buying Russian Oil en-masse like they used to.
You mean strikes that don't do anything but suspiciously dip things to just when Russia usually has lows in it's production and selling? And virtually no ground-they've taken the entirety of Dontesk's southwest and are threatening multiple strategic points. Hell even frontlines that have never moved since the opening offensive like near Zahporava have seen advancement.

And please. Everyone knows that India has been buying and reselling Russian gas and oil to Europe despite the constant saber-rattling those parties do. Who have also been collapsing in popularity as this war goes on. If a far more invested Biden Administration could not manage to fuck up Russia then a Trump Admin who's more interested in boasting about peace-making and trying to push US prestige won't be able to.
 
America has been the western worlds defacto piggybank and military daddy for longer than most of the people on this forum have even been alive.

It's become so ingrained in the minds of people on both ends as "normal" that the people receiving those benefits openly shit-talk and condescend to the people funding half their military and social programs, and the people in the US whose pockets are being raped by taxes to pay for it think that stopping said funding is evil and immoral on the US's part.

The "screw this bullshit you guys need to actually start paying your fair share, no more fucking gibs" attitude has become more and more mainstream as of recently, but it's still met with resistance by the two aforementioned groups.
 
Okay sure but uh, why are they always retarded?

I cant speak to that.

But what makes HHH bad was instead of making a logical argument were he present a thesis and supporting statement for said thesis, he would call trump fat, senile and a pedo. It was bait and weak and after biden it was clearly projection.

Fatpacks doom posts and it would work if trump wasnt winning.
 
Not my problem. My interest is me and mine.

By removing all illegals and foreign scabs by other names we restore the bargaining power of the American worker economically and his/her political power within the body-politic. It also means less competition for resources (Housing, education, healthcare, social services for those who need them, ect.)

Ill happily see every foreigner removed from these shores if it means a higher paycheck for blue and even white collar Americans and a restored way of life closer to the one I had growing up in the 90s. The only question to my mind is what to do with people like you who insist on getting in the way.
What if instead, we were to take a percentage of the corporate profits generated by using cheap foreign labor as taxes and put that back into American education, infrastructure and everything else in places that have been left behind by the shifting economy? Why chase the 90s instead of trying to harness all the benefits of a modern globalized economy and distributing the gains to American people? Could be handing out scholarships to get kids in the appalachians on the path to good high-skill union work instead of hoping and praying that all the factories will come back so Americans can sit there and build ball bearings all day. This is my issue with the republican vision of the future, the plan is to get rid of all the foreigners, spend a trillion dollars on ice or whatever with the end goal of living in 30 years ago. Meanwhile the chinks are going to send people to mars and completely overtake America's position as benevolent heroes on the world stage.
 
I cant speak to that.

But what makes HHH bad was instead of making a logical argument were he present a thesis and supporting statement for said thesis, he would call trump fat, senile and a pedo. It was bait and weak and after biden it was clearly projection.

Fatpacks doom posts and it would work if trump wasnt winning.
HHH, at least, is a reasonable entertaining guy when he isn't baitposting his Trump script word for word

Fatpacks is just a reverse oracle so he's fun to have around

The randoms who pop in to start arguments for no reason, all saying the same retard talking points, then dipping out and never returning, on the other hand, are just gay.

They aren't fun, or charming, or engaging. They're just annoying and don't add anything to the thread.
 
What if instead, we were to take a percentage of the corporate profits generated by using cheap foreign labor as taxes and put that back into American education, infrastructure and everything else in places that have been left behind by the shifting economy?
What if instead, you hired local and paid your employees what they're worth instead of importing foreign scabs and selling out your own people to save a buck you Jewwy cheapskate?
 
It's not even just Germany. We do a fuck ton for most of the world in regards to humanitarian shit and we get nothing but bullshit and harassment in return from most of our "allies". I'd be 100% for us going back to pre-WW2 "fuck off we're taking a nap" mode and letting the rest of the world sort their shit out until we had to come back and stop the kids from fighting again in a few decades if we had the Self-sustainability to do it.
I would love if we made these motherfuckers fend for themselves and literally did nothing for them for about 20 years no matter what happens.
See how much shit they talk after that. But other countries are just like us, you have the liberal cities where they smash Americans and then you have the majority of places that are just trying to live day to day.
When I was growing up nobody bashed America where I lived because we were just white trash and boongs living in a rural shithole. But you go to somewhere like Perth and other coastal cities and the people are fucking snobs and act like they could still have the life they do if their Uncle Sam wasn't keeping the sand niggers, North Koreans and Chinese in check.
Europe was like that too for me. The couple of countries I went to when you're out in smaller villages or a rural setting people like Americans or they don't really have much of an opinion. You go to the major cities and people will run their mouth to you about "Fucking Americans always sticking their nose where it doesn't belong" it's like fuck you fella. If it wasn't for Americans "interfering" all the time, you wouldn't be living in the style that you're accustomed to.
 
What if instead, we were to take a percentage of the corporate profits generated by using cheap foreign labor as taxes and put that back into American education, infrastructure and everything else in places that have been left behind by the shifting economy?
This has exactly been our policy for fucking years. The american economy is quite literally "this." Demographic replacement and mass immigration has been our policy forever and we need more to beat China?
Could be handing out scholarships to get kids in the appalachians on the path to good high-skill union work instead of hoping and praying that all the factories will come back so Americans can sit there and build ball bearings all day.
How does buying from foreigners help low class Americans? Low-class Americans aren't "high-skilled." They are low-skilled. That's why we should protect them from competing with your brothers and sisters in India. By the way, America having a far more organized labor force is exactly why mars will be Chinese. Fuck off and die, scumbag.
This is my issue with the republican vision of the future, the plan is to get rid of all the foreigners, spend a trillion dollars on ice or whatever with the end goal of living in 30 years ago. Meanwhile the chinks are going to send people to mars and completely overtake America's position as benevolent heroes on the world stage.
The Chinese have the privilege of not having a gigantic faction of self-hating marxist whites who are servile to blacks and jews.
 
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