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Should be a wild four years.

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Nah its okay for people to come in a push back, I fucking hate echo chambers.

HHH and fatpacks should come in and make the counter arguments.

I would agree we shouldnt grant the state powers to use against our enemies when our enemies get in power.

But as others have pointed out Johnson used the military to force integration which hasnt worked.

So trump has the power to send troups into portland, and honestly he should.

What I find weird is how Chicago wants to protect the illegals. What are they bringing to the table for the political establishment?
 
Why is it always just random people that suddenly show up to start arguing about how 'trump is being a big MEANIE and should be put down'. It's always the same basic thing but somehow there's a new 4-5 year old account to come out of the woodwork and then spam a few posts before disappearing for another one to come up.
My guess. Is they will always pop up with more. Because people take the bait every single time. But hey what do i know.
 
There was no point to doing this without following through, it amounted to an ad for him. The fact that he won't face justice for attempting to steal the election will be one of the greatest betrayals of the American people in history
Every single case got stalled for the simple fact that if they ever followed through they would be thrown out for lack of standing or outright heresay. There has been a hundred court cases against Trump and they did everything they could to try to get him in jail. The only reason why they failed is because Trump was innocent enough that even an activist judge has difficulty making a case remotely plausible

I do agree with the sentiment. To the point where I've argued with people on the site about cases where I think we should probably not jump on the crushing free speech bandwagon even through it feels great seeing people we hate have it used against them.

A good substitute to harsh crackdown is to reimplement the anti propaganda laws that Obama repealed and set up restrictions properly. If done right the liberals will jump at the opportunity to sue every right wing news company to silence them, only for people who actually read the laws to motion that those lawsuits have little to no standing. There might be legitimate cases of right wing propaganda that would get punished but doing so is necessary.
 
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-End stage Triffin's Dilemma and the constant temptation to money print out of debt
US Military Power ---> Other nations requring dollars to purchase US War Assets, pay for military bases of the US, and maintain close ties to US ---> Dollar Demand Secured by Military Power.

In other words, the USA can theoretically run deficits indefinitely so long as nations trust OR fear the United States enough to hold onto that debt and never come knocking for it. The Military is the collateral for the dollar.

Hence why Russia & China need to be constantly pushed back against, in order to ensure that fear holds.
Russia is floundering its war with Ukraine and the next will be China getting smacked when it tries to invade Taiwan.

TLDR - Triffin's Dilemma is an economic theory that ignores realpolitik and is thus, nonapplicable.
 
His family are all probably a bunch of ultra liberal progressives that don't want to be blacklisted from ultra liberal progressive society, so they feel like they have to denounce him. Same thing is happening with RFK, Jr. and his family. They've all denounced him, because they're ultra leftist Kennedys.
All the good Kennedys are either disavowed from the "dynasty" or got shot to death.
 
I would agree we shouldnt grant the state powers to use against our enemies when our enemies get in power.
The problem is that the enemies have already been pushing in their own time to do tyrannical shit. I assume the guys that tried a whole avalanche of Lawfare have only refrained from using the National Guard to smash because they don't trust them, F.E Pelosi holding back them during Jan 6. Plus I guess the fact they already have a lot of social/institutional power in their hands to push before going for the guard.
Russia is floundering its war with Ukraine and the next will be China getting smacked when it tries to invade Taiwan.
Russia has not needed to mobilize or engage in war economy shenanigans despite whatever shit Zelenky says to keep dragging it out. They are not floundering, just being very cautious.
 
Every single case got stalled for the simple fact that if they ever followed through they would be thrown out for lack of standing or outright heresay. There has been a hundred court cases against Trump and they did everything they could to try to get him in jail. The only reason why they failed is because Trump was innocent enough that even an activist judge has difficulty making a case remotely plausible
They had to upgrade a misdemeanor to get some felony charges for example.Trump must have some big backers cause despite the relentless investigations into his businesses.That was the strongest case they could cook up?
Nah its okay for people to come in a push back, I fucking hate echo chambers.
Agreed.This:
TES lurkers and HHH dick munchers coming in to post their 'enlightened' takes.
Is still correct though.

Russia is floundering its war with Ukraine and the next will be China getting smacked when it tries to invade Taiwan.
China likes that the US resources are being used up.If they hit taiwain like they have alluded to....... jeez, it would be another fucking war to deal with.
 
They had to upgrade a misdemeanor to get some felony charges for example.Trump must have some big backers cause despite the relentless investigations into his businesses.That was the strongest case they could cook up?
That was only due to a very retarded Judge who's daughter was part of a big Democrat NGO or PAC ignoring bank testimony in favor of the piggybank. I have little doubt that Trump can appeal that and get that whole thing overturned if not even removed.

As for his backing-remember, he is a billionaire. He has quite a bit of power and friends despite all the power of his enemies.
 
Yeah, we'll see. We're aways away from the race. All the Dem players will be trying to jockey for position in these next couple of years. I still think Gavin Newsom might be a contender. Maybe Tim Walz? They could run a white guy as long as it's clear that he's an ally to all the special interest groups. They did run Biden, after all. But right now the field of candidates is pretty weak.

But you might be right, they might just punt and go with an AOC or a Crockett if they're hell bent on branding the Dem party as the party of radicals. Depends on how strong the radicals' grips remain on the party. We'll see if the Dem donor base is willing to keep funding radicals or whether they push for more moderate candidates.
Tim Walz has waaay too much baggage whether it be lying about his military career or saying he's friends with school shooters. He also did horrible in his debate with JD Vance. Imagine if he had to do town halls and interviews and debates in a FULL election cycle?

Gavin Newsom is super pro Israel and has major ties to billionaires (One bought him a Winery when Gavin was only 24 years old). He also did horrible in his debate with Ron Desantis and lost Prop37 last November [California repudiated his soft on crime policies]. And that's all surface level. Gavin's been in public office since he was handed the San Fran Mayorship in his 20s. Without a doubt, he'd lose to Vance.

AOC is going to take Chuck Schumer's Senate seat in 2028 [He's in his 70s and disliked in polling]. I don't see her running unless Schumer has a major bounce-back in popularity. I think with AOC and Bernie not present, Elizabeth Warren might throw her hat in again. She'll be fucking ancient but she's expressed some interest. And obviously, Warren would lose to Vance. A multimillionaire lawyer for oil companies who became an environmentalist five minutes ago and lied about her native American heritage is too ridiculous to get anything more than the disaffected female vote.

I hate billionaire JB Pritzker but by process of elimination he might get it simply for being a bulldog against Trump, which the so-called moderates like Whitmer don't have.
 
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I would agree we shouldnt grant the state powers to use against our enemies when our enemies get in power.
Whatever powers of concern are invented or granted now were probably going to be invented or granted anyway, but only with an adversarial administration at the helm if they aren’t done now. I’d rather Trump do whatever now to try to affect a positive change to market Vance, rather than sit on his laurels and not do the things I voted for him to do. Which were Total Nigger Death, Total Troon Death, Total Antifa Death, Total Illegal Death, the list goes on. And on. Any morsel of that being accomplished is worth the hypothetical cost in the future, which we’d have to probably pay anyway.
 
They’ve boxed themselves in. They cannot run a Straight white man. I’m not even sure if a white woman would be accepted. Can’t be a Christian. It has to be some shade of brown or black and someone who openly supports Hamas, muslims and LMNOP 🏳️‍🌈
Can't be Christian? But Pete Buttigieg did great in the 2020 primaries and he's Christian.
Also if it has to be someone who doesn't kiss up to Israel that eliminates Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Bernie Sanders, and many others. So your diagnosis goes against the polling right now. Still, polling sucks.
 
The problem is that the enemies have already been pushing in their own time to do tyrannical shit. I assume the guys that tried a whole avalanche of Lawfare have only refrained from using the National Guard to smash because they don't trust them, F.E Pelosi holding back them during Jan 6. Plus I guess the fact they already have a lot of social/institutional power in their hands to push before going for the guard.

Russia has not needed to mobilize or engage in war economy shenanigans despite whatever shit Zelenky says to keep dragging it out. They are not floundering, just being very cautious.
the closest thing I can think of in the other direction is the texas biden thing. Because it was one case where a state was struggling against the biden administration to the point where it involved the national guard.


Although Texas is a bit of a unique case among the states. Because it has some conditions as part of its acceptance as a state, that as far as I know none of the other states have.
 
Takes like this are the reason Obama confidently (and correctly) declared he would've won a third term despite being a horseshit diversity hire president.

"Republicans should never ever ever use their power in any way that's disadvantageous to democrats and should go back to being the Mitt Romney/John McCain party of losing gracefully" is not going to ever resonate with anyone who isn't a retarded shitlib in a Post-2016 world.
 
I hate billionaire JB Pritzker but by process of elimination he might get it simply for being a bulldog against Trump, which the so-called moderates like Whitmer don't have.
Yeah, I think it's too early to know whom exactly will come out on top. But I would agree that Pritzker cold be a contender, because of his wealth. He's already been constantly positioning himself as a vocal Trump critic, so it would seem likely he would like to take on the next GOP candidate for president.

I heard on some recent FOX News show that AOC isn't as interested in congress as she is in the presidency, but they might be wrong about that. I know Gavin has a lot of terrible baggage that could come back to haunt him, but he is a sociopath who wants to climb to the very top. Although, I've heard that other members of the Democrat party do not like him, so they could help sink him in the primaries.

I wonder if there are any dark horse contenders out there nobody has been mentioning?
 
Can't be Christian? But Pete Buttigieg did great in the 2020 primaries and he's Christian.
Also if it has to be someone who doesn't kiss up to Israel that eliminates Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Bernie Sanders, and many others. So your diagnosis goes against the polling right now. Still, polling sucks.
Yeah but he's a dick anus. People want to vote a queen in for the same reason they wanted to vote in a nigger: to show the rest of the world that they aren't hateful and that they are progressive.
Never mind the fact that booty judge is a complete incompetent who took maternity leave when he had a gayby or the fact that Obama was literally the worst person for the job.
I can't stress that enough: Barack Obama was a fucking DEMON who ruined our country as well as polite society.
Everybody's retarded around here. No exceptions.
Hey I told you I was retarded in CONFIDENCE, man. What the fuck?
 
Russia has not needed to mobilize or engage in war economy shenanigans despite whatever shit Zelenky says to keep dragging it out. They are not floundering, just being very cautious.
That's probably why their oil refiners are being hit by drones, the US Greenlit strikes into Russian territory earlier this year, they've taken virtually no ground this calendar year, and flipped out when Moscow got hit by drones. "Cautious". Their only hope to securing any gains is if Trump continues the next three years trying and failing to make a deal but he's already tired of trying and its only been 9 months. Like I said - Russia is being exposed as aggressive but not unstoppable. While America's halfhearted engagement shows tangible results. Foreign leaders are calculating accordingly, like Germany no longer buying Russian Oil en-masse like they used to.

On a related note Germany really is a shitty ally. America had to bomb that Nordstream pipeline just to get Germany to stop funding Russia. And that was after Poland barred over-land transport of Russian oil into Germany. If the germans had their way they'd be funding Russia en-masse. Legit fucking assholes. No wonder so many Americans are isolationist.
 
Pritzker is responding how he should.
By ordering a 12-piece KFC fried chicken bucket, I’m sure.

Feels like you speds have no concept of what being deported actually means for your life and no commitment to any values that aren't evil and retarded.
No, I don’t have a concept because I’m not illegal, and no, I don’t care. If you’re here illegally, you need to go back. They don’t get to have free run over my country, with free medical care and SNAP and all the happy lil government handouts that I’m ultimately paying for. And no, I don’t give a shit that their country sucks and they have to live in huts while selling tacos. Not my fucking problem.
 
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