Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

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whoishomermynameis powiedział(a):

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AngryAboutInternets powiedział(a):
I'm also just going to throw my hat in for the "the text messages are fake (performative)" conspiracy. Not fake like the FBI is full of shit, but fake like the exchange itself had an element of rehearsal to it that will be shown once the correspondence between the shooter and the other troons is presented. The entire thing is just a bit too convenient, mainly the alleged lack of the roommate's knowledge of the plan, and the messages (or at least what we've seen of them since pieces were cut out) seem more like a prepared confession designed to exonerate everyone else besides the shooter than a natural exchange. It's possible the reason it looks that way is because parts of them were cut out, but we won't know until/unless we see the whole thing.

So yeah $20 on "the roommate (and several other troons) had foreknowledge". You know I'm good for it, no need for a juicer.
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I agree. It's beyond doubt at this point, with everything we've put together and people on Twitter have uncovered, that the boyfriend knew and so did associates of the boyfriend. This text reads like something they had pre-arranged ahead of time, to head off (or, at the least, attempt to) any suspicion that would come his way. It would line up with previous thoughts I've had, that he was picked/volunteered to be the shooter because he was a "cis white guy" and would be "less harmful" to their cause as opposed to a troon blowing Charlie Kirk away.
 
not william stenchever powiedział(a):
If numbnuts had found a creek in the woods to dump the gun in and had gone back to his apartment and his live-in tranny fleshlight instead of running home to tell his dad what he did the manhunt would have been significantly more difficult, no thanks to Bondi and Patel.
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Thankfully, as someone living in Utah. This entire premise is unachievable without having to go looking hard in Orem Utah for an isolated body of water that isn't hidden. After shooting Charlie Kirk, he fled into a neighborhood which was likely north-east. Utah is not that lush, and many of our waterways are limited due to our desertous climate in the valley, UVU is located near the Utah Lake. His best bet to hide the gun in a non-descript location would be better to flee westward to Utah Lake. But even that would be hard to disguise. He ditched his car in the neighborhood, returned to it and fled. The rifle being clearly uncomfortable to hide down his pants leg, and making it even harder to walk away without seeming conspicuous.

The man had no plan. He had the means, he had the location. But he didn't think out how he'd escape, how'd he go unrecognized. He was just out for blood and didn't consider anything afterwards.
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Mulling over possible defenses other than somehow saying he didn't do it. Utah doesn't have insanity defense in the way other states do.

Will it be "self defense" because "my client was afraid for the life of his beloved honest and true transwomenfolx paramour because the victim didn't support the trans community?"
 
Cynicaller powiedział(a):
To be fair a lot of the right is grifting the fuck out of Charlie's death, but it is a fact he was living with and likely plowing a tranny.

I've seen counterarguments against this being evidence for Tyler being left leaning consisting of pointing out how there are trans and gay Groypers who follow Fuentes.

And they aren't necessarily wrong. There are a few genuinely retarded right leaning rainbow people under the Groyper umbrella.

It's unlikely Lance was one of them, but not impossible. But if Lance was, well, that might actually indicate Tyler isn't as left leaning as people think, despite the incoherence coming from the fact he was living with a tranny.
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Pretty much everyone who knew the guy has stated that Tyler himself was angry at Charlie Kirk for being a transphobic bigot who dared to speak out against the holy LGBTQ.

What more proof do you need that he's not even remotely affiliated with the right?

To be fair, the right desperately needs to purge any remaining fags, trannies, and e-girls from their side, but that's irrelevant right now.
 
StudMccool powiedział(a):
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No one is asking the big question is WHY did he turn himself in then get placed in suicide watch?

edit: im retarded and need to finish reading the report before I speculate so confidently
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More interesting is that his parents immediately thought/ agreed that the pic could be him. Idc how much a blurry photo looks like your kid, if you didn't have a sense or reason to know he was massively fucked up and potentially capable of it, you'd never immediately think that some blurry picture could seriously be your own kid.
Jace on ice powiedział(a):
There's a very small chance Luigi could weasel out of charges or get a slap on the wrist because despite the virtue signaling at the time virtually no one likes Jewish parasitic CEO scum
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Thompson was not Jewish.
 
What was the point of the note when you spell out exactly what you did in discord. What a retard lmfao. Why did he buy a $2k scope but use his very specific inherited family heirloom gun, instead of just buying a gun from a pawn shop or something? Lmfao, retard. Why are our enemies so gay and dumb?
 
More Reddit retardation. This time this thread truly baffled me, this is a video post and it's 50 seconds long. Even Zoomers should be able to sit through it! However if you watch this video then read the comments then there is no way they could've watched the video.

We are at the point where I don't think people even click the links. The video could've been a random video, or just a screenshot of the video with the same title. The post in all likelihood would have received the same number of comments and updootarinos!

Something to note, this appears to be another astroturfing subreddit just like /r/nofilternews. Something that I feel supports my pov is that dissenting opinions are getting upvoted, this to me suggests that the vast number of interacting things with this post are bots and aren't reading the comments beyond upvoting some of the other bot comments I suppose?

Thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1nin5m3/he_never_said_that/

Archive: https://www.reveddit.com/v/CringeTikToks/comments/1nin5m3/he_never_said_that/

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I found some comments particularly amusing from the cognitive dissonance alone here are some selections:

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This one is interesting because the comment pointing out that this is all BS is upvoted. Is there still hope...? Of course the other replies have clearly not watched the video they're replying to either.
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Oh no! Another upvoted oppositional comment.
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Note the "collaborator" comment here, someone mentioned that this is violent rhetoric and I have to agree, they are linking anyone that slightly defends Kirk as effectively a nazi collaborator which I believe were often killed after WW2? Screenshot_20250916-225759.webp

If you list the thread by controversial you'll see a fair number of down voted sensible comments suggesting that this is BS.
 
John Andrews Stan powiedział(a):
Again, Candace has been busted for making up a whole story about Charlie secretly converting to Catholicism as well as the imaginary “fight” with Bill Ackman, and she’s a known liar, grifter and moron.

Charlie’s pastor:
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Charlie’s producer:
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Just to remind everybody. Candace was originally a Left Wing "muh Harrassment" anti-gamer grifter until she got in a slap fights with Zoe Quinn over competing grifts during Gamergate. At which point she went full Milo Yianapolis and switched to grifting the Right. She is an unprincipled sociopath who lies as she breathes. And has always been this way.
 
polakrobak99 powiedział(a):
The messages use a lot of cop-speak, Kash Patel wrote them - remember he's obsessed with military culture like "valhalla".

It also uses many ellipses, which are typical for boomers/genX but are unheard of among zoomers.

Also the bullets say "OWO" but the messages say "UWU". Suspicious.

>vehicle (instead of car)
>squad car (instead of cop car)
>deputy (instead of cop)
>circle back
>drop point
>interrogated
>locked down
>trace
>old man
>for a little while longer yet

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It is pretty fucking inorganic, but I don't think Kash was behind it. As much of a retarded poojeet he is, I think it was the two pre-planning this conversation.
 
Palantir powiedział(a):
More Reddit retardation. This time this thread truly baffled me, this is a video post and it's 50 seconds long. Even Zoomers should be able to sit through it! However if you watch this video then read the comments then there is no way they could've watched the video.

We are at the point where I don't think people even click the links. The video could've been a random video, or just a screenshot of the video with the same title. The post in all likelihood would have received the same number of comments and updootarinos!

Something to note, this appears to be another astroturfing subreddit just like /r/nofilternews. Something that I feel supports my pov is that dissenting opinions are getting upvoted, this to me suggests that the vast number of interacting things with this post are bots and aren't reading the comments beyond upvoting some of the other bot comments I suppose?

Thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1nin5m3/he_never_said_that/

Archive: https://www.reveddit.com/v/CringeTikToks/comments/1nin5m3/he_never_said_that/

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I found some comments particularly amusing from the cognitive dissonance alone here are some selections:

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This one is interesting because the comment pointing out that this is all BS is upvoted. Is there still hope...? Of course the other replies have clearly not watched the video they're replying to either.
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Oh no! Another upvoted oppositional comment.
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Note the "collaborator" comment here, someone mentioned that this is violent rhetoric and I have to agree, they are linking anyone that slightly defends Kirk as effectively a nazi collaborator which I believe we're often killed after WW2?Wyświetl załącznik 7926663

If you list the thread by controversial you'll see a fair number of down voted sensible comments suggesting that this is BS.
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Reddit is mostly bots and airmen. This is established fact. The humans got shadow banned a decade ago during gamergate.
 
Mourning_Cloak powiedział(a):
Mulling over possible defenses other than somehow saying he didn't do it. Utah doesn't have insanity defense in the way other states do.

Will it be "self defense" because "my client was afraid for the life of his beloved honest and true transwomenfolx paramour because the victim didn't support the trans community?"
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Hard to say. Self Defense claims would be 100% rejected as Charlie Kirk has never put any threats to any students in the years he had been speaking to them. The only line of defense they could plead to even consider reduction of his charges would be pleas of insanity, which as we can tell.. this entire plot was thought through. While we still have insanity pleas; we are far less liberal in its usage. Tyler is not insane, he is a nihilistic little shit who got brainwashed in college and plotted to murder a man because he reviled his opponents to the point of dehumanized violence.

He could only get away somewhat through being manipulated by an online group of "friends" who pushed and encouraged it. but he'd still be held for murder.
 
Osmosis Jones powiedział(a):
I don’t believe the state should have the ability to kill people for any reason, so I’m on the same page with you on that. However, Tyler demonstrably was going to attempt to get away with it and be non-compliant. It is only because things fell into place so perfectly that his compliance is basically guaranteed now. An extra few hours and he may have killed himself anyway. People who murder generally accept that their life is now also forfeit, or at least the life they knew. I don’t think the death penalty causes murderers to be non-compliant or unwilling to cooperate with authorities: they’re non-compliant because they’re killers.

If what is shown so far is to be taken at face value, and Tyler really did leave a note about the murder, it would seem that Tyler never truly had any intention of keeping this a secret. Murderers often want recognition for their actions, especially so when the target and the event are so high-profile.
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He was weak willed. He knew he was getting raped by big men and not small dicked lady boys and wanted out. But he was just too scared. That or he only said that because he wanted sympathy from the parents. Either way this was not a serious person, evidenced by the fact they are still alive. He also said he wanted the tranny to delete everything. This and the note is easy to explain. He wanted a crotch gashed Bonnie to his Clyde. Only the tranny panicked, and he got confronted by the parents. Thats when he gave up.
 
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