Female-aimed Trends That You Hate? - Sperg about recent trends you despise from media, make-up, social, etc

[rosecig]

I wouldn't call it bold or empowering, but it'd look kind of cool if it kept within the theme. His outfit looks downright sloppy - especially next to hers, to be honest.

Hate how normalized it is for women to have to dress nice while men dress like total shit. Even in celebrities :/

 

[blacksun]

The epidemic of "hyperfemininity/softness", specifically the women who feel the need to constantly describe themselves as being feminine/soft. The ones who complain about women not being feminine enough in media and genuinely believe they are oppressed for being feminine because they are so entrenched in online discourse and fandom spaces, that they conflate what is seen as an outlier in reality as the normal in terminally online spaces and believe that they are oppressed for being in their "soft era", instead of realizing they're being criticized for infantilizing themselves. Being feminine itself is not what I'm criticizing, I'm criticizing this uprising trend I see where they will use this label as some kind of identity and attach it to consumerism, while secretly being the most evil people alive. I see a lot of overlap with this trend of infantilizing and dehumanizing oneself (whole girl math thing, "im just a girl", etc). While a lot of women are looked down for being feminine, they are also looked down for being masucline, in general, I think these kind of artificial labels are redundant. I also genuinely see this shit the same way I see AGPs. I like dressing in jfashion, but you are not going to see me talk about myself and call myself a "cute girl" and use it as an excuse to avoid responsibility. I don't think there's anything wrong with liking cute things and whatnot, but I cannot stand this narcicisstic trait of calling themselves soft/feminine and insisting on it. It is textbook AGP behavior.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

you are not going to see me talk about myself and call myself a "cute girl" and use it as an excuse to avoid responsibility

You're missing out. You should try it sometimes. It's addicting

I think you're a bit too harsh on them. Dressing up nice and being slightly retarded is nothing like a moid putting on female clothing for the coom

 

[blacksun]

You're missing out. You should try it sometimes. It's addicting

I did it as a kid already, the time has passed. It gets pathetic after 15

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

I did it as a kid already, the time has passed. It gets pathetic after 15

It's only pathetic if you can't pull it off!

 

[blacksun]

It's only pathetic if you can't pull it off!

Maybe, but my criticism was more so against the dehumanization and infantilization of oneself, as in the whole "girl math" thing and whatnot. I have a lot of feminine interests and in a stem field, so perhaps that's where my bias comes from. I dislike trannies for the same reason, because they equate women to stereotypes and deliberately dehumanizes them. I also look down on men who infantilizes themselves (the whole soy thing, being addicted to funko pops, etc), so I just view these people in the same groups. I don't think there's anything wrong with being confident in oneself as long as you aren't using it to avoid responsibilities, but my generation (gen z) has this fear of aging, so maybe that's why it's more prevalent with what I see, and why I dislike it so much. I am in my early 20's, and I already see so many people who are afraid of aging and constantly infantilize themselves to the point of attaching onto labels, I've had classmates who have done it.

 

[rosecig]

It is textbook AGP behavior.

let's not play into troon bullshit by pretending women can be AGPs. If a woman is doing this shit it comes off as a little immature (but honestly probably age appropriate for the demographic liking this on TikTok,) a man doing it is a sexual fetish.

 

[blacksun]

let's not play into troon bullshit by pretending women can be AGPs. If a woman is doing this shit it comes off as a little immature (but honestly probably age appropriate for the demographic liking this on TikTok,) a man doing it is a sexual fetish.

I don't believe they can be AGPs, it was a bit hyperbolic, but I do think the infantilization on both parts is apparent, and it still perpetuates stereotypes that infantilizes women, though both do it differently. I do not think it's healthy for such a trend to exist, because it does affect how people percieve women/girls. Alhough, this is only prevalent in gen z spaces, and I know most of them will grow out of it, but it is disappointing to see my own peers in college and online do it. I know this correlates with the fear of aging from them, but I genuinely think we have to cut it out with the ageism bullshit. I see so many of my mutuals and my classmates fear aging, which I think correlates with that trend and others. I have been noticing this trend of wanting to avoid responsibilities for a while, and I do believe it comes with the fear of being an "adult",. Just like how men want to pretend to be women because they think being a "woman is easier", I can see women wanting to infantilize themselves (though this is just something most zoomers do anyway, my own male friends have done it and Ive criticized them for it), to make things easier for themselves. It's still wrong.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

Maybe, but my criticism was more so against the dehumanization and infantilization of oneself, as in the whole "girl math" thing and whatnot.

I think you might be drinking too much NLOG koolaid. There's nothing dehumanising about adopting an aesthetic centering around being cute. You might have a point if it's a bimbo aesthetic or something like this but in this case you're tripping.

I do not think it's healthy for such a trend to exist, because it does affect how people percieve women/girls.

This is all in your head. No normal person will see this and think "Ah, how dehumanised and infantalised these girls are".

I can see women wanting to infantilize themselves (though this is just something most zoomers do anyway, my own male friends have done it and Ive criticized them for it)

The oldest zoomer is 28. Most zoomers will be a teen or young adult. It's not like hyperfemininity is an unacceptable thing in twenty something year olds.

You only get 12 years to act cute and be perceived as cute as an adult before you aged into a mature woman. They're using their available years to the fullest.

 

[blacksun]

I think you might be drinking too much NLOG koolaid. There's nothing dehumanising about adopting an aesthetic centering around being cute. You might have a point if it's a bimbo aesthetic or something like this but in this case you're tripping.

This is all in your head. No normal person will see this and think "Ah, how dehumanised and infantalised these girls are".

I didn't say there was anything wrong with being cute or dressing cute itself though, I said there was something wrong with using it as a way to shield responsibility and infantilizing yourself for it, and equating femininity to being retarded, which is offensive itself. Femininity or cuteness has nothing to do with intelligence, nor does it have anything to do with lack of self autonomy, which is what I pointed out earlier. However, you pointed out that you only get 12 years to act cute and be percieved as cute and took offense to what I said earlier so maybe you do understand what I am speaking of, or you're being deliberately obtuse. I have said many times that hyperfemininity itself is not the problem, but infantilization is. Do you think young men who icollect funk pops and play video games all day while insisting upon their inability to contribute to society are not pathetic? You think the ongoing trends of "girl math" and whatnot, which is what I correlated my earlier point to, is not a product of it?

By the way, it definetely isn't until "30" where you can can only be cute until, you are seen as "mature" at 25 now. You can still be cute even when you are older, but you are not considered "mature" when you hit 30, 25 is the age where you hit full adulthood to most people. If you are still acting like you are a "girl" at 25, you aren't, you are a woman, and that's fine. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[soryu2electricboogaloo]

Sex work positivity movement, hands down. I hate the fact there's an expectation to feel sorry for whores and tell them what they're doing is perfectly okay and it makes them happy. "Happy" is the key word used, someone would be perfectly happy killing themselves, laughter and giggles and all.
I mainly feel sorry for the fact they're mentally ill enough to continue self harming themselves and having that satisfaction of having money overpower their rationality.
I've worked a job where I was fully clothed in a double layered uniform and got hit on nearly daily. It was great money, but those moments of getting hit on by the lowest of the low, I did not last 6 months. I willingly took a pay cut and moved out of my apartment to a more affordable one so I could work in a better environment. And with my stubborn ass, I did not ask for any financial help.
All this to say it is possible you can avoid having to whore yourself out. A quick buck is not worth it the mental scarring.
Imagine parading around your job because the pay is "good" and you need people to recruit to pay for your services, and your base customers are scumbags who zero morals and tons of cash. Your work depends on being violated by walking trash while you down some alcohol, weed, coke, and painkillers to get through a session or two. It sounds like you end up spending a good chunk of your money on ways to dissociate. In what way is this empowering at all?

 

[rosecig]

I know this correlates with the fear of aging from them, but I genuinely think we have to cut it out with the ageism bullshit. I see so many of my mutuals and my classmates fear aging, which I think correlates with that trend and others. I have been noticing this trend of wanting to avoid responsibilities for a while, and I do believe it comes with the fear of being an "adult",. Just like how men want to pretend to be women because they think being a "woman is easier", I can see women wanting to infantilize themselves (though this is just something most zoomers do anyway, my own male friends have done it and Ive criticized them for it), to make things easier for themselves. It's still wrong.

this isn't unique to gen z. every generation has done this, it's just very visible with the internet.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

this isn't unique to gen z. every generation has done this, it's just very visible with the internet.

Reminds me of stanley cup girls and beige moms. I'm pretty sure they're millennials so one can't blame this on gen Z

 

[isalaide]

I'd like to ask you ladies about breast reduction/lifting surgeries given that we're on the topic and it's something I have a passing interest in.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I am currently a 34J cup (UK size). My size can be largely attributed to some significant Covid-era weight gain; I'm not sure what my old size was as I just used to wear sports bras, but I was probably around a D/DD, possibly an E. My breasts are not just large but also projected, wide-set and I have tall and wide breast roots so my chest is pretty much entirely comprised of boob. While my breasts are still self-supporting (I'm 23) they're not immune to gravity and do sag and point downwards in a way I'm not entirely happy with, and being wide-set when I lay down my breasts flop to either side of me like they had an argument. I've been working on my diet and exercise and have lost 25lbs over six months, and I have approximately 45lbs pounds to lose to go back to my original weight. While I have lost two inches off my back/ribcage I haven't lost any breast volume, which I really want. I'm not sure if my breasts will return to their original size and shape, and in that case I'd like to go back to my more manageable original size with a perkier shape. While I don't plan to have any surgery now, I have considered in case I lose all the weight but am unhappy with my breasts that I would consider surgery. To give you guys an idea, my breasts look similar to these women's out of a bra:
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In that light what would you guys recommend? Is it likely my breasts will hold onto the weight or will I go back to my original shape? I have a body type where I gain weight uniformly (face, breasts, stomach, thighs), and while I've steadily lost weight in all those areas my breasts seem more stubborn. What should I know about breast reduction/breast lifting in case I decide to go under the knife?

They won't snap back to where they were even if you lose another 50lbs, no. They are buggers like that.

I had a remodelling as a young woman - some reduction, lifting, reshaping, implants in. It is a big surgery, the scarring didn't bother me in order to get the shape and position I wanted, yes there was nerve damage and loss of sensitivity which also I was fine with.

I have no regrets whatsoever and am getting a redo and change of implants in about a month. I think though this will be the last time as if I get similar time out of this set, I really will be too old for my amusingly gravity defying rack.

It's your body. Do what makes you comfortable in it. But if they already look like the ones above - which is 100% functional, normal, and fine - they are not going to shrink and rise to the sky after your weight loss journey. That aesthetic needs to be constructed.

If you're still not happy once you hit goal weight, think about getting a couple of consultations about surgery regarding the cost but also the recovery time, and most importantly, what the realistic expected results are.

 

[The Crescent King]

Sex work positivity movement, hands down. I hate the fact there's an expectation to feel sorry for whores and tell them what they're doing is perfectly okay and it makes them happy. "Happy" is the key word used, someone would be perfectly happy killing themselves, laughter and giggles and all.
I mainly feel sorry for the fact they're mentally ill enough to continue self harming themselves and having that satisfaction of having money overpower their rationality.
I've worked a job where I was fully clothed in a double layered uniform and got hit on nearly daily. It was great money, but those moments of getting hit on by the lowest of the low, I did not last 6 months. I willingly took a pay cut and moved out of my apartment to a more affordable one so I could work in a better environment. And with my stubborn ass, I did not ask for any financial help.

I don't see why the disdain has to be towards prostituted women (the vast majority of whom don't want to be involved in that trade) and not the whoremongers, who are the source of the trade, and the lobbyists/propagandists trying to normalise it. No normal, healthy women is involved in the sex industry, and from both what I've seen and personal experience the women who do enter the industry are some combination of being pimped (usually by older boyfriends), suffer from childhood sexual trauma (CSA, early porn exposure, etc), substance addiction, familial abandonment, etc. Many streetwalkers enter the trade when they're underage. How is it their fault that so many men, including in the so-called Enlightened West, see women as subhuman walking orifices and are willing to pay to access her body? A good chunk of sex buyers are married men who pay for sex because they want to engage in acts their wives refuse to do, their wives are sick/pregnant, etc. Until the root of the problem is tackled (pornography culture and misogyny) prostitution will always exist, and it's not women's responsibility.

That being said, I do often feel disdain for women with Onlyfans who promote the pornography industry from the comfort of their bedrooms. It's still not their fault that so many men are porn addicts. Given that the average life expectancy of a porn star is 33, it seems the sins of their lifestyle are enough punishment.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

I don't see why the disdain has to be towards prostituted women (the vast majority of whom don't want to be involved in that trade) and not the whoremongers, who are the source of the trade,

They only hate the john when it's a female hiring a prostitute. I have never seen people dogpile a regular john when he admited to it.

I hate negresses who will police women with their whole heart and soul while having no expectations for men whatsoever. You are a handmaiden and you will always be no matter what you tell yourself. You are not better than the ones you look down on.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

I hate, when the same sport clothes, shoes and equipment come in different colour palettes for mens' and womens' sizes.
Like, nothing wrong when men's sizes of sneakers don't come in peach, salmon and hot pink cos who'd buy that, but ladies' sizes often don't come in basic colours like black, grey, or the common 'male coded' ones like mustard/gold (as my dad calls it, hitlerjugend diarrhea yellow). Or they have some stupid flashy pink details, while the men's ones don't.
(Salomon, I am looking your way. Not gonna show the sneakers in question, y'all would say they are ugly and 'what are thoooose' anyway.)

 

[Arbiter]

I hate, when the same sport clothes, shoes and equipment come in different colour palettes for mens' and womens' sizes.
Like, nothing wrong when men's sizes of sneakers don't come in peach, salmon and hot pink cos who'd buy that, but ladies' sizes often don't come in basic colours like black, grey, or the common 'male coded' ones like mustard/gold (as my dad calls it, hitlerjugend diarrhea yellow). Or they have some stupid flashy pink details, while the men's ones don't.
(Salomon, I am looking your way. Not gonna show the sneakers in question, y'all would say they are ugly and 'what are thoooose' anyway.)

Trail runners come in the most fugly colors. I don't understand why. I have hiking boots that look cute (brown with red laces), but unless I'm in snow or very wet conditions, they are nowhere near as practical as my trail runners. 9 times out of 10, I'm wearing my clown shoes because they are just better in every way, even if they look ridiculous.

 

[Écho Öwl]

Trail runners come in the most fugly colors. I don't understand why. I have hiking boots that look cute (brown with red laces), but unless I'm in snow or very wet conditions, they are nowhere near as practical as my trail runners. 9 times out of 10, I'm wearing my clown shoes because they are just better in every way, even if they look ridiculous.

That’s interesting. My wife swears by the Solomon speedcross line available in black. She reorders the same ones when they wear out.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

omg you doxxed my shoes. Yes these are great, I just don't want a full shelf of the very same model and wanted to try some of the extra thick sole runners, but those don't come in solid black.