Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[WTBOnlineFather]

How do you figure, and what would such an "omnibus ruling" even look like that would preclude any further pre-trial motions from being made while the case remains open?

Are you retarded? The unwritten purpose of the hearing is to resolve the various sanction related slapfights between Russhole (who's seething mad) and Hardin (who doesn't want to give up an inch). If there are any filings to be made relevant to this slapfight they have to be made before the hearing. That does not in any way imply Josh would be precluded from making other pre-trial motions later such as regarding further discovery misconduct. It's really not that complicated. I think the plain truth is that your idea of Hardin having to walk on eggshells to avoid retribution from the ill tempered and omnipotent judge is fucking stupid and autistic.

 

[TooManyKittens]

The idea someone not Russell is making emails on his domain not just making up addresses and getting bounced to a catch all account is some high grade lunacy.

He's too stupid to know the difference I guess (and yes this post could help him turn it off but it won't help him legally at all so idgaf)

That or he's doing it himself as we've speculated which is really also insane.

Funny either way I guess.

Y'know.. I wonder if it's laziness or self preservation why he won't make a police report. Someone might actually look (doubt it) and find out the emails are Sent From My iPhone. 6.

And unless I missed it Hardin has politely made sure the "private" email address isn't in that screenshot on the docket. Which is probably a good call, really.

 

[Jew-ish]

The question now becomes, how does russ frame this as "our" fault?

My money is claiming the non existant detective wanting to remain anonymous

 

[ShinyStar]

The question now becomes, how does russ frame this as "our" fault?

My money is claiming the non existant detective wanting to remain anonymous

He can pull a Tomlinson and vaguepost about it having become an FBI investigation. Or Interpol. We're just so awful that all the big players stepped in to snatch up the case.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't see how this is a scheduling conference in any way. It's a hearing to discuss several specific open motions. It has nothing to do with scheduling.

And this is relevant to those motions. This is the hearing where those motions are going to be discussed. It is not where you introduce new stuff or file stuff after the hearing. I guess it's not called a scheduling conference (even though it deals with the scheduling of discovery among other things). This is what it's called:

ORDER Setting ZOOM Hearing on Motion 228 Defendant's MOTION for Attorney Fees and Memorandum in Support pursuant to ECF No. 218; 234 Defendant's MOTION for Sanctions and Memorandum in Support ; 243 MOTION to Reconsider re 227 Order on Motion for Short Form Discovery, Order on Motion to Expedite,, Memorandum Decision, MOTION to Set Aside; 245 Defendant's MOTION to Stay and Memorandum in Support seeking stay of further discovery pending service of First Amended Complaint on two new defendants and resolution of any dispositive motions; 251 MOTION for a Bonded Stay Pending Appeal Re ECF 230 and Memorandum in Support; 253 Defendant's MOTION Review In Forma Pauperis Status re 1 and Memorandum in Support ; 258 Defendant's MOTION TO SCREEN IN FORMA PAUPERIS COMPLAINT re 247 Amended Complaint and Memorandum in Support, : Motion hearing set for Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 1:00 pm before Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett VIA Zoom Signed by Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett on 3/13/25. (ksm) (Entered: 03/13/2025)

The last two filings were related to 228, one of the motions being heard.

If the judge is going to be annoyed by a filing before the hearing, imagine how pissed he'd be if he had a hearing on a giant list of motions, and then got a filing basically saying "hey I didn't bother to file this before the hearing on goddamn everything, I'll just dump it on you now."

 

[Debbie Macomber]

When it comes time to argue Russell's In Forma Pauperis status, can Hardin ask him point blank "When was the last time you payed a hooker? How much did it cost? How many hookers have you seen since this case began?"

 

[obsdj]

The last two filings were related to 228, one of the motions being heard.

You can't just make shit up in the legal thread. 262 has nothing to do with 228. Like I said before, and we can all see, it's just following up on 213, which is not one of the motions under discussion at the upcoming hearing. Why bring it up now, aside from how much we all just love watching him pile on Greer?

You still have not clarified why you think the judge will do an "omnibus ruling," whatever the hell that even is (if it's even a real thing (@Useful_Mistake?)), and why you think such a ruling would mean "the opportunity is gone" (your words) to make any other motions on Greer's bullshit while the case is still open and we can't even make it out of discovery.

 

[AnOminous]

You can't just make shit up in the legal thread. 262 has nothing to do with 228.

Okay, 261 does. 262 is a little trickier, and I guess is related to 213 instead (on paper this is disposed of but not the threatened sanctions motion which hasn't arrived).

It's a "supplemental authority" about the "fuckstick" email. 213 Plaintiff's Notice of Supplemental Authority of Continuous Stalking Messages.

It doesn't mention it, but it should have been attached as an exhibit to the previous docket entry.

212 Plaintiff's Opposition Response to Motion re 211 Defendant's MOTION for Extension of Time Response to ECF Nos. 190 and 209 and Memorandum in Support filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer.

And

211 Defendant's MOTION for Extension of Time Response to ECF Nos. 190 and 209 and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon
(this has been granted).

So true, it doesn't actually directly address a specific (currently pending) motion, but if it's an issue he wants to discuss at the hearing, as part of an argument for the motion for sanctions and attorney fees, he still does have to raise it before the hearing, or he can't discuss it.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

s (if it's even a real thing (@Useful_Mistake?))

It is.

 

[AnOminous]

It is.

It's just a term for ruling on everything on the table all at once. This is a hearing on a bunch of duplicative bullshit motions that are on the table. It's arguable Hardin shouldn't have even brought this final thing (262) up at all, about an already disposed of motion (213).

However, if he had to spend ANY TIME AT ALL even dealing with and trying to locate imaginary police reports to detectives and analyze legal issues about it, it's related to the sanctions (228, 218, 234).

In case it sounds like I'm trying to slither out of having been wrong about one issue (262 does not mention any specific motion on the table), this whole docket is a mess, but frivolous threats of bringing felony complaints to the police and Hardin having to do any research whatsoever is definitely relevant to sanctions (228).

But you caught me with my drawers down. It doesn't cite what I said it did. I was wrong about that.

I agree nothing should generally be filed without actually being some kind of motion or being related to a motion.

I do not agree this is the wrong time to file it, since it's relevant to something on the table.

I have no strong opinion as to whether it should have even been filed at all. I'm leaning towards yes. As counsel you have to respond to scandalous, damaging, and utterly false accusations filed by the other party or you are seen as conceding them. And if they're relevant to a hearing, the time to file is BEFORE that hearing.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

And some of which literally do not exist on this mortal plane

I'm pretty sure the courts have ruled that deceased witnesses may not be called to testify.

Ouija board or not

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I'm pretty sure the courts have ruled that deceased witnesses may not be called to testify.

For all the so-called "legal expertise" in this thread, you idiots don't know it's called the LAST WILL and TESTAMENT and will be entered into ebidance.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It's really not that complicated. I think the plain truth is that your idea of Hardin having to walk on eggshells to avoid retribution from the ill tempered and omnipotent judge is fucking stupid and autistic.

And is itself reversable error. How much does the Non Moving Party have to put up with, and pay for, when the Magistrate or District Court is Prejudicially Hand Holding the Pro Se Retard to the extent seen?

 

[Irene and 22 others]

Pissing off the judge is not smart in any case. Like cops, they have "broad discretion" and if you piss them off they can make your life hell while obeying the letter of the law.

Even if it does piss the judge off a little bit, both of the filings were short and to the point. Whatever Greer responds with (we all know he will) is unlikely to be concise. I'm sure the judge will thoroughly enjoy listening to Russel explain himself.

Anyone who has ever tried to argue with a trooper upon getting pulled over for speeding when "other people were going faster," for example, should know these things.

Funnily enough, that is word for word 70% of the appeals I get from Forum users.

Do you sometimes let them off with a warning, or do you almost always issue them a sped'ing ticket anyway?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Do you sometimes let them off with a warning, or do you almost always issue them a sped'ing ticket anyway?

If their appeal is some variation of "but other people break the rules too!", then I just ignore the appeal

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

If their appeal is some variation of "but other people break the rules too!", then I just ignore the appeal

The reason Russ keeps using the Retard Defense™ is because it's damn effective (not perfect, but it's probably the best chance most people have on their own).

 

[Swole McPole]

If their appeal is some variation of "but other people break the rules too!", then I just ignore the appeal

Makes mental note that any appeal to Useful_Mistake should consist of an extensive listing of my plights.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

Makes mental note that any appeal to Useful_Mistake should consist of an extensive listing of my plights.

Also include harassing emails and pictures of The Avatar that were sent to you.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Russ filed his motion for sanctions against Mr. Hardin

 

[FamicomGorby]

Russ starting out strong and once again saying he never read the damn SPO



Can it really be inadvertent if Greer just didn't have an inkling of how it was actually supposed to work since he never fuckin read it?


Greer's damn email is hiding the evidence! I guess him thinking he did something is good enough.



Anyway, Greer asks for 2K but fears that won't be enough to stop Hardin from constantly telling him that he's wrong about everything.



His "evidence" of Kiwi Farms stalking people are Tomlinson and Keffals