Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Jacknife]

I put a >10% probability that when Greer finally loses this lawsuithe will just kill himself because he can't take the thought of paying Null

 

[Null]

Please use the main Greer thread. @Useful_Mistake keep this locked until number go up.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

ECF No. 261 and 262

 

[The Un-Clit]

ECF No. 261 and 262
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It's great to see The Hardship keeping the Bamboon's feet to the fire and not letting any of his bullshit slide. I can barely believe Russhole was stupid enough to tell opposing council yet another time that he is a liar who is so used to making shit up to look better then he is that he even does it in court documents. I mean

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

You think anonymous emails calling you a poopyhead are felony-level actionable and that Mr Moon is therefore unquestionably responsible for being criminally annoying?

Is Mr Moon in the room with us right now?

 

[obsdj]

I cannot help but think the Magistrate will be annoyed by these filings ahead of the scheduled Zoom meeting. I'm sure Hardin has every right to continue submitting things like this, but I'm not sure it's wise under the circumstances. But hey, if it motivates Greer to reply with more tardery, can't complain about that.

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

"the case is a work in progress".

As usual with Greer he has ideas of an end product and will make lofty promises that he has no way of keeping or attempting to work towards. Greer is just figuring and making shit up as he goes besides "Kiwi mean."

Also I see Greer learned from image boards. If a user is calling you a faggot that doesn't deliver, promise you're gonna deliver something new and crazy so everyone else shuts up, then don't deliver (because OP is a fag).

 

[BoomerPrime]

Shitlips should be overjoyed at that email exchange. Hardin has asked him to explain something. We all know how much Russ loves to do that.

Is it too optimistic to hope the Judge tells Russ at the May hearing to cut the shit with "muh harassment" since it's completely irrelevant to copyright infringement and he can't prove who the source is?

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

I'm sure Hardin has every right to continue submitting things like this, but I'm not sure it's wise under the circumstances.

Who gives a fuck? Hardin is offering a zealous defense, which he is obligated by law to provide.

 

[h3catoncheries]

ECF No. 261 and 262
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ECF 213 which 262 is a response to:

Awww, sweet, a schizopost.
Now PDF flavored for your convenience.

(213 is merged in 212's Pdf)


ECF 249 mentioned in 262 Exhibit

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It's like a joke

 

[FamicomGorby]

You'd think Russell would have gotten more of a move on since he claimed someone is making email addresses on his domain and then sending prank emails to those new email addresses instead of to Russell directly at the email address he posts everywhere.

"the case is a work in progress".

As usual with Greer he has ideas of an end product and will make lofty promises that he has no way of keeping or attempting to work towards. Greer is just figuring and making shit up as he goes besides "Kiwi mean."

Also I see Greer learned from image boards. If a user is calling you a faggot that doesn't deliver, promise you're gonna deliver something new and crazy so everyone else shuts up, then don't deliver (because OP is a fag).

All he knows is saying "I'm workin on it!" has gotten him breathing room before and then he just hopes everyone will forget about it.

 

[obsdj]

Who gives a fuck?

Pissing off the judge is not smart in any case. Like cops, they have "broad discretion" and if you piss them off they can make your life hell while obeying the letter of the law. Anyone who has ever tried to argue with a trooper upon getting pulled over for speeding when "other people were going faster," for example, should know these things.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I cannot help but think the Magistrate will be annoyed by these filings ahead of the scheduled Zoom meeting. I'm sure Hardin has every right to continue submitting things like this, but I'm not sure it's wise under the circumstances. But hey, if it motivates Greer to reply with more tardery, can't complain about that.

These will no doubt be issues that Hardin intends to raise in the up-coming hearing, which means he has to put them on the record. He can't just start waving bits of paper at the judge on the day; that's a Greer-level move.

 

[Harvey Danger]

"the case is a work in progress".

As usual with Greer he has ideas of an end product and will make lofty promises that he has no way of keeping or attempting to work towards. Greer is just figuring and making shit up as he goes besides "Kiwi mean."

He didn't even mention the sanctions Hardin asked about. I'm starting to think we are never getting Greer's get-rich-quick masterpiece.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I cannot help but think the Magistrate will be annoyed by these filings ahead of the scheduled Zoom meeting. I'm sure Hardin has every right to continue submitting things like this, but I'm not sure it's wise under the circumstances.

I think he probably has to deal with #213 at some point, since it's nominally about "being of a mind to infringe" which is one of those magic 10th Circuit words. There's probably never going to be a good time for it when the judge isn't neck-deep in untangling Greer's frivolities.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I cannot help but think the Magistrate will be annoyed by these filings ahead of the scheduled Zoom meeting.

I think 261 was a bad move (even if necessary to not mislead the court), but 262 was golden. He has to get that on the record before the meeting, and even if that annoys the Magistrate, it is WORTH IT when the Magistrate considers fees, Greer's bad faith behavior, and like the two pending sanctions.

"the case is a work in progress".

So when I claimed that there was no meeting between Russ and the police based on the fact that the police had no record of any such meeting and people claimed "well, what if he does it in the future?", turns out I was still correct, and Russ has not met the cops in the past three months. Sucks to suck; glad to win.

Is it too optimistic to hope the Judge tells Russ at the May hearing to cut the shit with "muh harassment" since it's completely irrelevant to copyright infringement and he can't prove who the source is?

The Magistrate politely implied that to him the last hearing, but Russ didn't get the hint.

Anyone who has ever tried to argue with a trooper upon getting pulled over for speeding when "other people were going faster," for example, should know these things.

Funnily enough, that is word for word 70% of the appeals I get from Forum users.

I think he probably has to deal with #213 at some point, since it's nominally about "being of a mind to infringe" which is one of those magic 10th Circuit words.

The words come from a SCOTUS case that Russ badly misread.

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

Pissing off the judge is not smart in any case. Like cops, they have "broad discretion" and if you piss them off they can make your life hell while obeying the letter of the law.

I would agree, however, this case is in discovery (somehow). Getting it on the record that Greer is making factually false statements to the court and to Hardin in order to weasel out of following the rules is what this phase of a case is all about.

Even neglecting the fact that we’re in discovery, all of these problems would not need to be addressed if Greer…

1. Told the truth
2. Followed the rules
3. Did as the judge has told him

And because of this, Hardin needs to get it on the record now that Greer is doing these things so that he can bring it up later if it becomes relevant.

If you want to avoid pissing off the judge, then you should do exactly what Hardin is doing by following the rules and raising concerns at the time they’re supposed to be raised.

In addition, this is all the judge’s fault. He could’ve easily quelled this behavior at any point during this case and instead he’s let these issues fester and grow until we have the case as we see it today. Remember, things are the way that they are because at some level, the judge wanted the case to be this way. If he wanted it any differently, all he had to do is say so.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

this case is in discovery (somehow).

Does it really count as a discovery stage when pretty much nothing was handed over, bar an email with a (wrong) list of Russ' litigation?

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Shitlips should be overjoyed at that email exchange. Hardin has asked him to explain something. We all know how much Russ loves to do that.

He loves to explain to authority figures. Since Hardin is such a poopyhead as to not be a neutral third party (read: doesn’t just accept Russtard's words as tru fax man) he cannot be an authority figure and thus doesn't have to explain.

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

Does it really count as a discovery stage when pretty much nothing was handed over, bar an email with a (wrong) list of Russ' litigation?

I mean, there were witnesses, they’ve just been stipulated out of existence. (And apparently never cashed the check that Hardin sent them)