LMAO there is a cursed sofa at my friend's house that gives sleep paralysis or bizzare dreams almost every time someone tries to sleep on it. I try to rationalize it by the fact that it's on the east side of the house and people are more disturbed by the sun in the morning, but I like to think it's actually possessed.
Is it at all possible to politely tell a close family member that you love them dearly but they also happen to be one of these energy/emotional vampires? And if not, is there some way to sort of ward off their draining effect?
If you find a person draining to be around, my first suggestion would be to take a look at abuse tactics frequently employed by both narcissists, (1), (2), (3) and the like or those with BPD/EUPD to see if anything looks familiar.
Yes, but I try to chalk it up to my superstitions and undiagnosed mental illness in the individuals involved. I think of those cases about people with no previous history of violent behavior or suspicious behavior. That fellow on the Greyhound bus in Canada who killed and decapitated another passenger is definitely one. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and was treated inpatient for seven years. According to employers and family he never showed signs of mental illness previously; or did they not notice?
I've run into a handful of instances where psych patients somehow knew information about me that there was really no way of them knowing. For an example, the dog I had as a kid was named after a pretty obscure gun manufacturer. It's not exactly a common name to give a pet, and yet I had a schizophrenic patient once who somehow knew that I owned a dog by that name growing up.
If you find a person draining to be around, my first suggestion would be to take a look at abuse tactics frequently employed by both narcissists, (1), (2), (3) and the like or those with BPD/EUPD to see if anything looks familiar.
When a person is spiritually unevolved and operating at a lower level of consciousness, strong Pluto influences can cause manipulative and abusive behavior. If you have access to their date of birth, aspects between Pluto and in particular the luminaries and hard aspects in their natal chart and synastry charts could provide answers. Same goes for strong 8th house connections or Scorpio influences which have 3 stages of development - Scorpion/Eagle/Phoenix.
Edit: The narcissism list I'd provided missed some
Thank you both for the info, needed to wait to get on the computer so I wasn't fat-finger typing on mobile.
I think it might be more SLS and treating me more like a therapist than a relative. I don't think they mean to, just that our conversations always seem to wind up that way, quite possibly similar to the highlighted section in Merried's post.
The kneejerk reaction whenever someone says this is that "Oh if you were a narcissist you wouldn't be worried about that" but that's not true. You could be, but that doesn't mean you're doomed to be an asshole. I've seen a couple interviews with diagnosed narcissists who learned to "control" it because they know if they do give in and act in the way that comes naturally to them, then they'll lose things like access to other people, job opportunities, etc.
I'm curious, too, @Aiōn, I'm bad at this shit, but I put in some Boomers I know out of just curiosity and noticed a couple of them have Pluto in Leo (because it's so slow, right?). Is this something we see in wider "generations" too?
I think so too, and I also know (having spoken to a handful of schitzos) that they can get information and not even know how they have it either, and then their brain will try to "rationalize" it with magical thinking. Schizophrenia in media is often portrayed as pure delusion, but it's closer to having a very broken pattern-matching system.
Yeah that doesn’t sound very Plutonian, it’s possible that they might have a strong Saturnian influence or Saturn/Moon aspects as this can make a person more melancholy and pessimistic. Narcissism is a spectrum of behavior so having narcissistic traits is fairly common, however people with severe NPD are very arrogant, lacking introspection and remorse and I doubt that you are one of those.Reading over the abuse tactics, I'm fairly certain this person is not a narcisist, but it does sort of confirm that my ex-MiL definitely is, though I am now worrying that I might be one
The outer planets like Neptune and Pluto are very slow moving and are considered to be ‘generational’ and non-personal. If you want to, you can DM me both yours and the person in question’s charts and I can do your synastry chart analysis for you both. You can trust that I will not share your information with anyone else. Quite a few people have given me their natal chart to read over in the Astrology of the Cow thread so I’m happy to read your chart if you’d like.
Hard aspects between 2 bodies simply require adjustment, a square aspect carries a similar energy to Saturn and can be felt as a tension that needs to be worked through, while the opposition calls for compromise. Hard aspects have the potential to be beneficial as they offer opportunities to learn and grow from, as well as adding complexity to the personality. In synastry a degree of friction can help to make a relationship more interesting.
One thing I have always noticed is the sheer amount of successful musicans and actors born in the latter 50's and 60's. My personal collection is made up almost entirely of musicians born in this timeframe, Leo rules creativity and entertainment so that could explain it. In the Sidereal system Pluto entered Leo in 1953 at the same time as the advent of rock 'n' roll and left in 1968 right around the end of the first British Invasion.
This was more a generational question.
*checks the 1985-1995 Millennials*
Yeah you can make another account to message me, that’s different to making a sock account, right? I wouldn’t want to get you in trouble.
I'm not seafaring, but when I was in school my friend and her family would invite me on board their boat periodically. They were of Norwegian descent, so I don't know if this was Norwegian specific or not:
What happened to him
He was very self destructive and an alcoholic who enjoyed playing power games with others when he was drunk, after a few years this evolved into violence and when he tried to smack me around I left him. I don't know what he's doing now, he tried emailing me for a while but I cut off contact.
Can you keep these people in your thoughts for me, please?
like what?
