2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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toad of the depths powiedział(a):
I don't need to love arabs to distrust a government with figures in it that openly despise my religion (Christianity). My thoughts on arabs are irrelevant to the discussion.
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Guys I'm totally distressed by any death, but here is why the violent Sub-80 IQ inbreeds who videotape themselves executiing and killing people need to be given a pass.
 
toad of the depths powiedział(a):
Its been implied by journalists and analysts, I don't find it credible that a government including someone like Ben-Gvir wouldn't make a swing at the arch of Titus out of spite.
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I FEEL like Arabs have a plan to install a global Caliphate via terrorist action, its not credible they don't, and thus the murder of any sand nigger is wholly justified. BTW I am against violence and distressed by the loss of human life, I want to be clear on that.
 
tiffanytwisted powiedział(a):
I’m not great at photoshop but when I saw the hezbollah martyr trading card tweets, I couldn’t resist making one with the face and name of my middle eastern friend who luckily appreciates racial humor as much as I do lol
If you want it for meme purposes too, here’s my (admittedly poor) attempt at making a blank one:
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Ladies and gentlemen, they got him (:_(:heart-empty:
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Hamas used landline phones in Gaza tunnels to evade Israeli intelligence for 2 years while plotting attack


A small cell of Hamas terrorists used old-school landline phones specially installed in the “spider web’’ of tunnels under Gaza to evade Israeli intelligence forces for two years while plotting the group’s horrific Oct. 7 attack, a report revealed.

The hard-wired phone system allowed Hamas to communicate without being detected by Israel or the United States, sources told CNN Tuesday, catching the Jewish state by surprise with the attack that left about 1,400 dead.


Planning meetings were held in person whenever possible, and digital communications on cellphones and computers were avoided to ensure secrecy, the sources said.

Knowledge about the attack was also kept secret from the majority of Hamas’ fighting force until days before the shock assault in an effort to prevent any information from slipping out — even as the terrorists trained above ground without knowing their objective.

“That’s how you compartment and keep something that’s tight,” a source told CNN, explaining that intelligence about Hamas’ network of secrecy was shared with the US by Israeli officials.


Intelligence officials were not alarmed to see Hamas training because “the thinking was, ‘Oh, they always train people like this.’ It didn’t look different,” the source said.

It is believed Hamas learned its security and secrecy methods from Iran, but US intelligence does not believe the nation was directly involved in actually planning the Oct. 7 attack, according to CNN.

Hamas’ tunnel network, called the “Gaza metro” by Israel Defense Forces, stretches more than 300 miles beneath Gaza, allowing the terror group to move its fighters, weaponry and supplies throughout the area without being detected from above.


The elaborate system is reportedly rigged with booby traps outfitted to force Hamas and Israeli troops into terrifying guerilla combat.

Many of the more than 200 Israeli and foreign hostages Hamas snatched two weeks ago are likely being held captive in the tunnel network, which is believed to run as deep as 130 feet underground and have entrances hidden in civilian buildings.

Though Israel has previously destroyed long stretches of the tunnels, Hamas is believed to have diverted millions of dollars in aid intended for Gaza Strip civilians to rebuild and fortify its defenses.
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Ghostse powiedział(a):
Guys I'm totally distressed by any death, but here is why the violent Sub-80 IQ inbreeds who videotape themselves executiing and killing people need to be given a pass.
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It makes more sense to criticize the side I'm funding (albeit involuntarily), especially since the work expressing moral outrage over arab violence has already been done. If my goal was to run cover for Hamas atrocities I'd be screeching about photographic evidence or whatever. I'm smart enough to shill better. Ultimately I'm a bleeding heart and I feel strongly that further inevitable escalation in this conflict will likely result in the deaths of some of my close friends who are army reserve.

Hamas has decided to provoke the Israelis into a siege, and I would agree that some of the blame for the conditions within gaza lies with them. I don't know if this was calculated or otherwise. I don't really care, no reasoning on anyone's part can justify it. Israel must respond, and they must respond brutally otherwise the state puts itself at strategic risk. The idea that because the arabs are somehow aggrieved, rightly or otherwise, this justifies violence against innocents is absurd, as many others before me have stated. Israelis are also right to feel angry when international voices claim coldly that the events exist within a context (everything does, but that doesn't make something right or provide anything other than an immediate casual explanation, small comfort to a mother mourning her child). I'd be wrong to say that the thought of having my own children murdered in front of me doesn't initiate a deep dread and I can't imagine what the Israelis went through, nor do I particularly want to. They have a certain right to demand better address from the UN if their participation is involved, regardless of anything else.

The anti-Israeli left wing is also retarded, but nobody is going to convince them they are. If they weren't retards, they'd not be communists, so IDK why people expected better of them. I can find the concrete policy objectives of the israelis and arabs more understandable than western leftists in terms of this conflict.

The ideal solution would be some sort of peaceable population transfer and an establishment of mutual respect and reciprocity between the Israeli right wing and the western right wing (an opinion I've come to recently and largely less politically antisemitic than my previous opinion prior to the conflict, mostly based on the cordiality I've experienced with Israelikiwis here, and I pray their families and loved ones are OK), but I don't think that is feasible for near infinite reasons. Both sides of the conflict within Israel have decided that total extermination or expulsion of the other is the decided path forward. There will be no negotiations, and there will be a single state solution, whose state that will be is up in the air, for better or worse.

My criticism of israeli policy and organized jewish activism may be seen as one sided, but I feel I've no need to chime in that pro hamas types are retarded and vile, this point has been made more eloquently in this thread, and I couldn't do it better without plagiarism. If you find my moralfagging vile or whatever, fine. I have a bleeding heart and I cannot stand the sight of dead bodies, broken buildings and other such things. I cannot still bring myself to watch any of the videos of the gunfights or such from the initial raids because of the heartbreak.

Perhaps I'm over nuanced and my view on the conflict lacks the burning moral clarity of other posters, if those are my damning flaws I'm happy to die with them.

But I wouldn't like it implied that I sympathize with mass murderers.

(In post I should add that I've largely followed the war through telegram, and the degree to which people are willing to put thumbs up reacts on carnage is frankly vile. This entire debacle is slowly eroding me as a person and I fully expect to be an entirely different human being when it resolves, I would ask for prayers).
FrigginWeeb powiedział(a):
There's been so much bullshit on both sides I don't know who is the good guys
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I think one can find solace in the assurance that perhaps there are decent people everywhere, without there being truly decent causes. It's something I learned to deal with.
 
toad of the depths powiedział(a):
Hamas has decided to provoke the Israelis into a siege, and I would agree that some of the blame for the conditions within gaza lies with them.
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My nigga, they have gotten literal billions in international aid + who the fuck knows how much from "islamic charity". They should be living in paradise by now, but instead they are digging tunnels and buying guns and rockets and shitting in buckets, while storing those weapons in schools knowing their opponents will hesitate trying to destroy their stock piles because they care about not killing civilians they don't want the bad press.

This does not absolve Israel of their role in this shit, but comparing the subversive Eternal Jew trooning out children and the Violent Jihadi beheading them, laughing as the bodies spasm, spitting on the corpses, then posting it on the internet... this shit is not even in the same league. There is a clean end to the turd.

toad of the depths powiedział(a):
But I wouldn't like it implied that I sympathize with mass murderers.
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Ok look guys look I don't like it implied that I sympathize with puppy kickers, despite the fact in every discussion I point out how those puppies needed kicking and go full-bore to bat for the members of the Puppy Kicking League. I'm just against violence against animals and I really don't appreciate being lumped in with the people I keep defending.
 
Although I pray for the safety of my family that lives in Israel I do not support the government there. Israel treats non Jews like shit so no wonder there is such hatred towards it. Gaza is a literal concentration camp, this is completely unjust and I am ashamed/disgusted with Israel.
 
Maginot powiedział(a):
"Angel in uniform: lots of respect for Chaim, a sweet guy with Down Syndrome, who joined the IDF in order to defend Israel
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He deserves a HUGE like
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They are not sending their best, folks.
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Letting actual retards join and serve in support roles is the one thing I like about the IDF. It has to be a huge ego boost for them to feel they are valued for once.
 
@HTTP Error 404 Your screed against the woke devil is the most divine of speeches, may you have all of Allah's blessings. Seriously though, I think you cut right to the chase and it kinda reminds me of the AIDS virus which went for the immune system. Hit the part that would prevent your spread first and all. But yes I have noticed that they cannot be cured as they are in a cult much like those fornicators with swine who think that "martyrdom" is the way to go, there's no convincing them otherwise as they have been sufficiently brainwashed and demoralized. I'm disappointed in Western academia but as I said, Marxism is a Western product if you dig deep enough.
Catch The Rainbow powiedział(a):
There's a difference between wanting to be special and not wanting to commit national suicide.


You mean the same goldstone report that goldstone expressed regret over and wanted to be retracted?

Anyway polling among Palestinians from multiple sources has always had Hamas winning a majority of the vote, I don't find it surprising that Hamas won.

We set up the Oslo accords and recognized Palestine in exchange for terrorism to stop, terrorism didn't stop but we allowed them to keep the oslo concessions. They demanded 67 borders and Israel offered 90 percent of the west Bank,all of east Jerusalem, and Gaza multiple times to the Palestinians. They refused in 2002 and again in 2008. We gave them Gaza and free elections, they voted in Hamas.

Point out what Israel should have done differently in order to get a better outcome.
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Put Hamas in charge of the whole of Israel? I say do it so we can show the western wokies what they're truly supporting.
Ghostse powiedział(a):
Guys I'm totally distressed by any death, but here is why the violent Sub-80 IQ inbreeds who videotape themselves executiing and killing people need to be given a pass.
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Honestly I would like to give the western sympathizers the benefit of the doubt but this stuff is easily researched and most people have a phone with internet now so there's no excuse.
 
toad of the depths powiedział(a):
You can roll a turd in glitter but you can't polish it.
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Checkmate, Islamatard.

And I'm not the one saying "Ok Well sure they are murdering people on the streets while their own people wallow in sewage... but there's this theory that the Jews were going to nuke berlin if the Arabs advanced, there is no evidence but I believe it because I FEEL that it is true so they are clearly just as bad. BTW, I hate violence but am F5'ing the telegram channels full of uncensored video with the death and violence that I absolutely loathe."
 
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