🗑️ Trashfire Nicholas J. Fuentes & Kanye West vs. Alex Jones - Alex Jones disavows the Catboi Pürrer and Ye. Calls Fuentes a “baby Hitler”

The latest proof (as if we still need any) about the DR being spergs is the Academic Agent vs Keef/Joel crap, with Sensible Centrism and such. Again, a "fight" simply based on aesthetics, not policies.
I'd say this is an issue that pervades far right online circles-substance has been replaced for aesthetics and "vibes." The whole Mikka/Carlsbad feud is illustrative of that-people will boost anything, no matter how obscene or ridiculous if it has the right Nietzchean hard core/anti chungus feel to it. (I'd be tempted to say this is a consequence of Nietzcheanism itself being central to so many of these cliques but that's another day's debate).

Their grudge with BAP is also retarded. If we put down actual policies, not aesthetics and shitposts, but policies about how you rule a society, all these people would agree on 95%+ of the issues. Their accusations towards BAP are likely wrong too, there is no proof he's Jewish, and his name and heritage seems typically Romanian instead. They just made shit up from "friends with Jewish people/had Jews on podcast/studied with Jews at university" to "he's Jewish", huge lead of faith.
As others have mentioned-their beef with BAP is due to his shady connections, and his explicit disavowal of White identity politics and trumpeting of Zionism as European colonialist ubermensch BTFOing brown people. So I'd say there is a substantive disagreement.

The latest proof (as if we still need any) about the DR being spergs is the Academic Agent vs Keef/Joel crap, with Sensible Centrism and such. Again, a "fight" simply based on aesthetics, not policies.
The Academic Agent/Joel fight is bizarre I'll grant you. I haven't paid much attention to it, but its odd that Joel spends so much energy fighting with some British(if he isn't in fact Pakistani) Youtuber.

All of this is pure insanity, it has nothing to do with politics, and betrays unstable individuals at the margins of society.
See the odd thing is guys like Keith and Joel strike me as intelligent young men, maybe a bit autistic(or in Joel's case disagreeable), but they aren't useless, they spend their time reading and doing discussions of the theoretical. Not men of action, but having intellectuals is always good.

HITLER TOOK THE GUNS! STALIN TOOK THE GUNS! MAO TOOK THE GUNS!

af tards continue to take Ls.
See that's the one time I thought Jones was some sort of discredit op-it was so over the top, and ridiculous in style, not to mention historically false that I wonder if he wants people to think he's crazy or his (((handlers))) do.
 
"Yo, bro, no, no, no,  my internet daddy is right about the Jews. You see, it all goes back to the Neo-Faustian Lamarkian Method as espoused in xXxKikeLoverxXx's 34 tweet essay, entitled 'Swallowing the Turquoise Pill: The Secrets of Sherbit's World Iceberg Theory'. All very deep stuff. KikeLover must have certainly studied at Cambridge at some point."
 
No, no, no.
You're doing it wrong.
We're talking about a political movement here. Let's be clear - NJP (i.e. TRS) is a political party. AF is a political movement with an alleged agenda and a political conference that aims to rival CPAC.
It is of paramount importance that people who desire political power should be treated with great seriousness, especially in America, which is the most powerful empire the planet has ever seen. Every single unserious spergout will reflect badly on the ideology itself. Greg Johnson is a bit more serious than these other spergs, but not by much, and he's even come with disappointing dumb crap somewhat in the defense of the Ye thing.
Is white replacement real or a joke?
If it's real, it's an existential threat and must be treated seriously, in a somber, academic manner, with data. Think Steve Sailer, maybe. Don't make this a joke and don't use it to get rich, or the people that oppose you will destroy you with your own stupid mistakes. Stop being a child.
Is Jewish power real or a joke? Same applies. These are very serious discussions, because they can lead to very serious dark places.
There is a time and place for jokes, and there is a time when you get serious.
We're not gonna have incel Joker-enjoyers and nihilistic grifting lying chaos enablers that shill for an enemy empire reach power and nuclear codes. Show that you can be serious and trustworthy, or get crushed.
This is the thing Nick fails to understand. If you're going to go out there and talk about Jewish power, you need to be respectable, reasonable and rational. You need to be prepared for pushback from every angle possible. You need to win people over by presenting yourself as an alternative to the way things are. Doubling down on the stupid shit is the worst way to do any of that. If Kanye wasn't wearing that stupid mask, and was presenting his issues in a way the average person can get on board with, the interview would have gone better. There wouldn't be cherry picked clips that everyone is playing that make you look stupid. Plus no groypers are spreading clips that make him look good.
 
This is the thing Nick fails to understand. If you're going to go out there and talk about Jewish power, you need to be respectable, reasonable and rational. You need to be prepared for pushback from every angle possible. You need to win people over by presenting yourself as an alternative to the way things are. Doubling down on the stupid shit is the worst way to do any of that. If Kanye wasn't wearing that stupid mask, and was presenting his issues in a way the average person can get on board with, the interview would have gone better. There wouldn't be cherry picked clips that everyone is playing that make you look stupid. Plus no groypers are spreading clips that make him look good.
The JQ is a motte-and-bailey fallacy.
Motte: Jewish power or influence.
Bailey: Jews control the media or banking or strip malls.


Gavin said that Orthodex Jews hate Liberal Secular Jews. Orthodex Jews are helping him in lawsuits.
Nick's response was a lie, "they still view themselves as one people," and another motte, well they're still bad because they don't believe in Christ.
Alex Jones said that it wasn't only Jewish groups that were suing him.
This is why the JQ is so dumb.
The wignats can't defend the actual bailey which is "Jews control the media and if we removed Jewish influence then all White people will become 1488 super Nazi
Anyone who has experience with White Liberals and Orthodox Jews is never going to believe the JQ.
If these people were reasonable and rational then they would realize their mistake and drop the JQ (and holocaust denial too).
No one who preaches the JQ will ever be reasonable or respectable because it's an irrational motte-and-bailey fallacy.
 
This is the thing Nick fails to understand. If you're going to go out there and talk about Jewish power, you need to be respectable, reasonable and rational. You need to be prepared for pushback from every angle possible. You need to win people over by presenting yourself as an alternative to the way things are. Doubling down on the stupid shit is the worst way to do any of that. If Kanye wasn't wearing that stupid mask, and was presenting his issues in a way the average person can get on board with, the interview would have gone better. There wouldn't be cherry picked clips that everyone is playing that make you look stupid. Plus no groypers are spreading clips that make him look good.
Groypers 6 months ago - "get fucked, wignat! We are opposed to you to the very end! Here's answers to the Wignat Question! We are smart, intellectual people of OPTICS"
Groypers now - "hi I love me some bitch nigga cock yes sir, Christ is Kang sir, ummm, 1488? We love our spergs, our law enforcement, we love our Nazis, they're important"
PS: I see Boxershorts still selling strawmen and still doesn't understand data, statistics and gaussian distributions, SAD
 
The whole Mikka/Carlsbad feud is illustrative of that-people will boost anything, no matter how obscene or ridiculous if it has the right Nietzchean hard core/anti chungus feel to it. (I'd be tempted to say this is a consequence of Nietzcheanism itself being central to so many of these cliques but that's another day's debate).
Groypers 6 months ago - "get fucked, wignat! We are opposed to you to the very end! Here's answers to the Wignat Question! We are smart, intellectual people of OPTICS"
Groypers now - "hi I love me some bitch nigga cock yes sir, Christ is Kang sir, ummm, 1488? We love our spergs, our law enforcement, we love our Nazis, they're important"
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It is genuinely impossible to parse any of this. Nietchean hardcore anti-chungusim? What the fuck are you on about?
 
I'm going to reply to something I see here as though Nick were listening (seeing as he read his thread religiously, it's an actual possibility that he does.)

(On Alex Jones and MTG) I don't take it personally, but people need to be aware that they are the definition of controlled opposition.
Nick you yourself are the definition of controlled opposition. You have a known fed as your benefactor with Milo who has obviously acted as your handler for the feds.

Everything you say - especially since Kanye's recent crusade to "fight the jews" - sounds like it is hand-tailored to play into narratives the jewish press wants to push.
  • When it comes to life choices and building families (or the lack thereof) whenever right-wing dissidents act as the voice of reason with the press' darling femoids, what is their go-to cope? "No everything is perfectly fine! It can't be that you're right and there's a problem, you are all just incels." And then in comes baby Hitler leading an organized group of right-wing dissidents putting the incel label front and center everywhere.
  • The only self-declared group that commits actual acts of violence repeatedly are incels, and here you are creating a constant link between pro-White sentiments and inceldom through your own person. Serving authorities with a perfect pretext for violent crackdowns on any and all dissidents everywhere.
  • Jewish journalists repeat ad nauseam with fetishistic undertones how everyone who wants to move lifestyles and social norms to a more healthy (ergo straight, holy matrimony and all that) state is actually just a closet gay, and you are the most obvious closeted faggot possible.
  • Everyone on the right from harmless cuckservatives to hardline nat-socs is under perpetual accusation of being authoritarian fascists that want to create a dictatorship. And then you go on your glorified twitter space of a panel in front of what looks like a construction site - right when all of the press' magnifying glasses are right on you - talking about how you want to establish a dictatorship and suppress the will of the people
If I were a glow-in-the-dark CIAnigger, tasked with writing a character to be played on a public stage just so my buddies at CNN et al can point at them and say "this is everyone who disagrees with us", you are it. You would be exactly the character I'd put together, you tick all the boxes. You are the most convenient thing for the system that could possibly exist. If the system were to create a fake person to act as controlled opposition and give them everything they want, you fit that mold down to every last detail.

Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is you are a left-winger's straw man made manifest. A fake target that is easy for the system to mock and take down.
 
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It is genuinely impossible to parse any of this. Nietchean hardcore anti-chungusim? What the fuck are you on about?
Basically...there is a sub sphere in dissident right circles that rejects anything that gives "wholesome feels"-ironically this is expressed through things like "I should have a harem of 14 year old girls", petty nihilism, Hitler was going to create an Aryan superman, more Anime pornography, etc...

Its tangentially tied to BAP but also part of the Amarna forum-where race realist statistics and BAP intermix with internet rationalism.

Its all very esoteric, Nick Fuentes and his gang actually launched raids on them (Amarna is a small forum), before the Kanye business started.

TLDR: Basically, there is a small group of internet autists in the dissident right who justify their anti-social tendencies with Nietzcheanism; they are a major sub faction tied to BAP and have engaged in bitter feuds with other dissident right factions and microcelebrities. Nigel Carlsbad, is some Romanian or Hungarian guy that advocates for patrimonialism and getting rid of the welfare state.

When they say "chungus" I think they mean-any sort of aesthetic imagery or rhetoric that comes across as wholesome or moralistic-for example "Hitler wanted to unite the nations of Europe against Judeo-Bolshevism", they see this as "chungus" because it has a warm feel to it, compare to "Hitler wanted to kill most Europeans, to create the ubermensch, this was the true purpose of the SS"-its provocative, intentionally offensive, and definitely not "wholesome".

Addendum: I realize this is all esoteric, because it is. The debates between these tiny online cliques are taken as world shattering serious business by their participants, and its nearly indecipherable to anyone not paying attention to it.
 
Wasn't nick supposed to be on a no-fly list? It's pretty funny he accuses Alex Jones to be controlled opp when there's nothing more glowie than the fucking feds saying 'Yeah you can fly again' because it serves their purpose.
People have pointed out this is very sus. When you are put on a no-fly list, you must make some sort of deal with the Feds, what that entails is of course classified-but it almost certainly involves being an informant.

The fact Nick was taken off viewed in this light is damning with regards to whether he is compromised or not.
 
I still laugh at Alex talking about Nick "coming out" as baby Hitler. Let me tell you, Nick has a lot more coming out to do in his future. He's as queer as a three dollar bill...I can spot it from a mile away,

Honestly he looks like a nice, clean-cut fairly masculine gay guy which is why Jaden liked him so much, at least until the cum blacklight. And I really don't think Nick looks bad either....would be nice to have a one-on-one at the Steamworks with him.
 
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Wasn't nick supposed to be on a no-fly list? It's pretty funny he accuses Alex Jones to be controlled opp when there's nothing more glowie than the fucking feds saying 'Yeah you can fly again' because it serves their purpose.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that Nick was never on the real "No Fly List". He was denied boarding from a single airline for sperging out at a flight attendant on a previous flight, and then claimed to be on the no-fly list.

ETA: I stand corrected.
 
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that Nick was never on the real "No Fly List". He was denied boarding from a single airline for sperging out at a flight attendant on a previous flight, and then claimed to be on the no-fly list.
Nope, he was on the government no fly list. TSA (you know, the government agency) said it was related to him sperging at flight attendants, of course Nick claims they just said that to avoid admitting political bias. Legal documents shown here:

 
Yeah again if he was removed from it I wouldn't be surprised if it involves a deal with glowing niggers
 
On Jan 6 Nick used a megaphone to order the crowd to break down the barricades and to forcibly remove members of congress from the capitol. (See video below.) That's incitement to riot right there. It's actually a call for insurrection, which I didn't think anyone had actually called for, until I saw that video.

Nick was one of the chief instigators of the riot. And he wasn't charged with anything. Of course he glows.

 
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