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I thought we "cissies" were the problem? Now they want us to fight for them? In this article they mention the UK which has been accused by many a troon like jim sterling for literally "genociding" trans people but I live here and its the opposite, laws are being changed to protect trans people to the detriment of other groups (like women) so can anyone tell me how and where this holocaust will happen? Link to article for those interested.
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Jog on buttercup.
 
Counterpoint: this artist is an emotionally fragile, coddled and immature person, performing a story she's already told multiple times to an echo chamber of her clones. She probably does feel stabbed, because feelin' too much about minor stuff seems to be her main problem.

Someone should have reminded her that the dudes in her fanfic are getting fucked all the time, and IRL men get a DRE for prostate cancer without all the premedication she needed for a Pap.

At least this means she's not going to be a seahorse dad, though.
Counter counterpoint, and I really do agree with you that this is an immature fragile person in an echo-chamber. She thinks she feels stabbed. Darryl Philbin from The Office said it best when he told Michael he had a nerf life “Sitting on your biscuit, never having to risk it.”

She and people like her want so badly to have the legitimacy of real suffering without having to actually go out and deal with the sandpaper that is a normal life with its normal abrasions that she should be able to handle.

Getting your teets yeeted and a Chipotle burrito installed above your groin is the equivalent of jumping off an office building into a bouncy castle.
 
It's been 24 hours, and clunes is back to tell ys that actually he's not transitioning after all, and that we should never tell him what to do. The rest is weirdo BPD ramblign and not very interesting.

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He's a striking guy- the stubble and long hair look good on him and the shirt is giving new romantics. If he wasn't insane he'd be realling in pussy/bussy no problem. It's a shame that he's clearly completely fucked in the head and massively insecure.

It's just all so self inflicted.
 
You know, gay/bi people spent decades integrating themselves and making society at large care about them. Every trans doomsayer who's like "THEY'LL COME FOR YOU NEXT!" is forgetting that people genuinely love and have positive memories/associations of Tim Gunn or Queer Eye dudes or Queen Latifah or George Takei or Neil Patrick Harris or Ellen Degeneres (even post-controversy lol) or Jodie Foster or Adam Lambert or Elton John or Lance Bass or...

(Seriously, I had to go "okay, stop, that's more than enough examples.")

But troons did a speedrun. They screamed their way into prominence, with Laverne Cox being about the only trans celebrity who actually, naturally earned widespread recognition to compare to the rest of the list above. They didn't actually win over any hearts. There aren't trans celebs with widespread prominence to point to as a shared cultural-yet-personal experience to go "hey, but I love X! Don't be mean!"

And so now it's sinking in that people don't actually care. That's what you get with zero foundation and a top-heavy movement.
 
You know, gay/bi people spent decades integrating themselves and making society at large care about them. Every trans doomsayer who's like "THEY'LL COME FOR YOU NEXT!" is forgetting that people genuinely love and have positive memories/associations of Tim Gunn or Queer Eye dudes or Queen Latifah or George Takei or Neil Patrick Harris or Ellen Degeneres (even post-controversy lol) or Jodie Foster or Adam Lambert or Elton John or Lance Bass or...

(Seriously, I had to go "okay, stop, that's more than enough examples.")

But troons did a speedrun. They screamed their way into prominence, with Laverne Cox being about the only trans celebrity who actually, naturally earned widespread recognition to compare to the rest of the list above. They didn't actually win over any hearts. There aren't trans celebs with widespread prominence to point to as a shared cultural-yet-personal experience to go "hey, but I love X! Don't be mean!"

And so now it's sinking in that people don't actually care. That's what you get with zero foundation and a top-heavy movement.
A part of me is glad that things developed as they did, if only so that whatever acceptance that currently exists might one-day crumble. For it's a forced sort of acceptance, born from not wanting to have one's life ruined for not towing the line. It's bound to boil over into something worse, but it's my hope that we'll be able to do away with this acceptance, in the end. It's kind of a good thing that transsexuals have by-and-large bulldozed their way into being accepted, if only because it might make any future resistance more effective, as there's more of a reason to go against it. Whereas the acceptance of homosexuals and lesbians was far subtler and insidious, and will be more difficult to change.
 
If you think this is good and are into the fujo-abuse genre, try searching “trans” on r/askgaybros and check out the beatdowns those guys lay on the Aiden activists poking the hornets nest.
I did just that and right off the bat I found an absolutely nutter butter who at the drop of a hat does the "do you want me dead?" routine for being downvoted and talks about how she was raped and her life sucks
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Honestly FTMs are always SO fucking SAD
 
I did just that and right off the bat I found an absolutely nutter butter who at the drop of a hat does the "do you want me dead?" routine for being downvoted and talks about how she was raped and her life sucks
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Honestly FTMs are always SO fucking SAD
This was tiring to read, yet also fascinating in spite of that. The perpetual victim mentality, the public suicide-baiting, the fact that this girl is barely old enough to drink. It just boggles my mind to see someone so young turn out to be such a basket-case.
 
I love how stealing/masturbating in your sisters clothing and underwear is seen as a perfectly standard non-issue and totally normal part of being trans. there’s literally never any discussion about how these girls feel about their things being used to fulfill their brothers sexual fantasies.

like I can’t even imagine how gross it would feel to know that one of my brothers was doing this. Finding out that your *brother* has been sexual in the clothing or underwear that you wear every day….1000000 showers can’t get that dirty feeling off.

anyway, forcing girls and women to participate in the fetish without their consent is a feature not a bug.
I do wonder why it's always a sister's things too. Never the mother's.
As an effeminate male child, I would try on my mum's heels, her make-up, her coat, as I've heard other fem gay guys have too. But then we did that as children, and not as a fetish.
 
You know, gay/bi people spent decades integrating themselves and making society at large care about them. Every trans doomsayer who's like "THEY'LL COME FOR YOU NEXT!" is forgetting that people genuinely love and have positive memories/associations of Tim Gunn or Queer Eye dudes or Queen Latifah or George Takei or Neil Patrick Harris or Ellen Degeneres (even post-controversy lol) or Jodie Foster or Adam Lambert or Elton John or Lance Bass or...

(Seriously, I had to go "okay, stop, that's more than enough examples.")

But troons did a speedrun. They screamed their way into prominence, with Laverne Cox being about the only trans celebrity who actually, naturally earned widespread recognition to compare to the rest of the list above. They didn't actually win over any hearts. There aren't trans celebs with widespread prominence to point to as a shared cultural-yet-personal experience to go "hey, but I love X! Don't be mean!"

And so now it's sinking in that people don't actually care. That's what you get with zero foundation and a top-heavy movement.
People also have genuine connections with gay individuals IRL, and the stereotypical (non-drama-queen) gay is sociable and witty.

I am sure there are some normal trannies, but most of them are perverted old men or mentally ill teenage girls. Not precisely the type of people you feel particularly connected to. They're also so self obsessed that they rarely offer anyone else anything.
 
People also have genuine connections with gay individuals IRL, and the stereotypical (non-drama-queen) gay is sociable and witty.

I am sure there are some normal trannies, but most of them are perverted old men or mentally ill teenage girls. Not precisely the type of people you feel particularly connected to. They're also so self obsessed that they rarely offer anyone else anything.
From the few troons I had the misfortune of knowing, or people who trooned out on me despite my best efforts, they offer absolutely nothing of value. They only take.

We need to stop genociding them, we need to help them, we need to do their laundry, we need to give them tendies, we need to suck their girldicks. That's nice, what do we get from all that though? What problem are we solving exactly? That kids can grow up normally?
The sheer cojones of making such statements can't be lost on this thread. It's as I just said, they only take. They have a ridiculous amount of power for such a recently exploded collective, and it's us who have to do their work? "We need to protest for the right to own slaves! but that's too much work, send the slaves to protest".
And from the people less likely to be grateful for it of all, no less. You could set them up to live like princes from your very own pocket and they'd still complain and rave about the evil cissies.

They keep doing this thing. Guys it's all because we secretly envy and/or get horny from them. We got found out Kiwis, time to close the thread.
 
Yeah, it's a dumb premise. I'd be interested to read a story of how perhaps female approaches to power and authority would manifest differently, not that everything would be "lol kumbayah everyone gets along".
That'd be Sexmission, scifi comedy from 1984 https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0088083/
Two scientists are chosen as guinea pigs for a time experiment: they are placed in hibernation and should be brought back to life after three years. In the meantime, however, the World War III breaks out and life have been wiped out of the surface of the Earth. When they wake up, it turns out that not only 50 years have passed but also that they are the only living specimens of the male sex in a new, underground society composed exclusively of women. Max used to be woman-chaser so he finds himself in heaven. Albert, on the other hand, forgot all about love and sex as a serious scientist, but is willing to learn. So are the Amazons, who after a kiss turn into pliant kittens. The Council of Women is going to decide their fate, so they are trying to win more time.
—Polish Cinema Database <http://info.fuw.edu.pl/Filmy/>
It follows two male protags, but female society is not what you'd expect. I would love for this comedy to go mainstream now in the US, because it's cult classic, it was already almost banned for all different reason from political to feminists in the US going bonkers and now the troon seeth would be amazing and delicious given some plot points.

So the premise of Y going extinct is fucking old as balls and anybody thinking they are making new thing is naive.
 
The thing is that someone like Peppermint can seperate their work from their personal lives, while a lot of the ones who become trans through drag have essentially become the mask and can no longer seperate themselves from their working persona. The most well adjusted and normal drag queens are the ones who have a firm line between their drag identity and their real identity.

This exact topic came up in the latest U.K. series (which has gone from fun to dogshit incredibly fast). One of the queens was whining on about “not being a man or a woman” and said he genuinely considered trooning out because he loved the confidence and positive attention that drag gave him, he just couldn’t handle taking the costume off and becoming a man again. He didn’t even talk about dysphoria, he was just so confused: I love the person I am in drag so much so maybe… I should do it full time?

I wonder if he’d considered how he would pare down his drag persona to present as a true and honest transwoman though?

If it weren’t for RPDR catapulting drag queens to huge levels of fame, this wouldn’t even be happening. They’d just be small time drag queens performing in local bars their entire careers.
 
From the few troons I had the misfortune of knowing, or people who trooned out on me despite my best efforts, they offer absolutely nothing of value. They only take.
This is very true, I invested years into a troon and they really only take. I have lots of trans experience because I used to work in with some trans people and my mum had some trans friends while i was growing up. This dude had none, so he often came to me as kinda like a Troon Middleman, I was there for him when he was trooning out, I was there for him when he was sad about never passing, when he was sad about not having the confidence to go full troon and I was there to give him advice on his mental health.

I'm a very mentally strong person, but during Covid I lost everything and he was not prepared to give me even an ounce of the emotional support I had been doling out to him for years.

Standard issue troons are literally parasites, eject them from your life at all costs.
 
Yeah, it's a dumb premise. I'd be interested to read a story of how perhaps female approaches to power and authority would manifest differently, not that everything would be "lol kumbayah everyone gets along".

Two tribes of women living next to each other, one has lots of natural resources, the other doesn't. It's like scientology-tier sci-fi to think there wouldn't be conflict of some kind. The story potential would be in how it differs without any males present.

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in a good book based on this premise, Ammonite by Nicola Griffith is a good choice. It takes place on a planet where a virus wipes out men in the colonists, but allows women to reproduce quasi-parthenogenetically, and the advent of this virus regresses their society to a an almost iron age state. The important thing is that after centuries of cultural evolution, the women on the planet have formed distinct cultures and societies that are indeed competing with each other. Some are more war-like and tribal, enslaving others, others are forming city states and trade networks. It's specifically a thought experiment on what exactly would be that different without masculine influence in society.

Lol, this dude has been British since the age of 8, but I guess his black Russian heart is always loyal to the motherland. Nice of trans activists to jump on the congenitally sneaky soviet train, it's fun to revive old stereotypes.
 
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