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- 12 Lip 2021
Mr. Moore is a particularly low effort troon, but I'm still surprised he doesn't tuck.
I just want to take that beautiful female far away from him. RUN GIRL, RUN!!! the way these freaks just sully the natural beauty of healthy males and females even by being in their presence is some Croenenberg shit. she is a goddess next to that blight upon the earth. never do you more wholly realise how perfect the natural human being is than when it is placed next to an abomination.
and there is absolutely, totally, one hundred per cent NO WAY this fucker ever made an income doing sex work. the way these freaking AGPs strut around talking about how they're sex workers really does make me seethe, because they have no fucking idea how the industry works. and it is just insulting to those who do sex work and have to actually deal with the confrontational intimacy and stigma of that work. the only trannies who can make money doing sex work are the gorgeous HSTS who spend 98% of their time and money on their appearance. and even then their clientele generally want them to be "active" (able to get erect), and their client base are always chasers and fetishists. both these factors only contributes to their generally poor mental health. getting the chop narrows their market considerably. the average hetero male is not interested, and the chasers lose interest once the dick is gone. the irony of HSTS doing sex work to save up for their surgeries is once they've got the amhole, they take themselves out of the game. then they have to figure out a normal life and career (or a husband to take care of them).
he was in no kind of shape to be a successful escort to gay men. lol lol lol lol lol at the very idea. he wasn't twinky or pretty enough, nor was he butch and built enough. the high roller clients he speak of do not want an ugly, awkward, ill-presenting AGP sucking their cock; they want a beautiful specimen of maleness to admire and covet.
it is not impossible for a not-conventionally handsome man to be successful in gay sex work, but a man with money to burn is going to get himself the best looking Chad he can find. the average looking guys cater to the average market who isn't so fussy; one very ordinary looking guy I knew primarily serviced disabled clients. the money is NOT good. male escorts on average make considerably less than female, whichever their client base. my knowledge is out of date now but I do remember years back your average female escort might ask $250 per hour; males could at best hope for $150, but that was at best.
women actually do pay for sex. it is extremely rare comparatively, but it does happen. again, however, no woman looking to spend her hard-earned money (and women generally have less disposable cash than men) on what she hopes will be a pleasurable experience is going to spend it on this ugly fuckknuckle. she's gonna hire herself a Chad. she's going to spend some time looking at her options. serious escorts have professional websites that explain the style of their services & multiple professional photos. or a serious agency would discuss with her exactly what she wants and make a recommendation from their books of vetted contrators. no serious agency would put this guy on their books. he has nothing to offer. no woman looking to hire a male or female escort wants a smirking, ugly AGP in bad-fitting lingerie.
most male sex workers who do see women are gay. one young gay I knew in sex work decided he would offer his services to women at one point. only problem was he was a bitter, resentful misogynist and the only story I ever heard him tell of seeing a female client it came off sounding like he was a absolute asshole to her and lowkey stigmatised her genitalia in the process (because women don't get enough of that as it is). in general, what I've heard of women's experiences with male sex workers often turn out like the average hook up eperience with a rando - they still can't focus on their actual JOB, they rarely have any idea what actual women are into or how women's bodies work, and it's all mostly about them.
that said, I have known a couple of women who had amazing experiences; but that wasn't the sex. that was the experience of having a beautiful male lavish attention on them without needing to give anything in return (except payment).
the amount of tranny cope the AGPs are indulging in when they claim to be successful sex workers just convinces me all the more this claim is about feeding their fetish and forcing others to participate. one AGP I knew had a desire to do sex work even though he had a healthy IT income (of course) and fully expected he would be able to present as a woman and not a trannie because he's had the work done. he thought he passed. I didn't know what to say in response to this because HE DIDN'T PASS and he didn't seem to grasp that any man walking into the room prepared to hand over his money for sex with a cute girl (and he wasn't even a cute male) would clock him INSTANTLY. I mean, he was better looking that this cro-magnon snape-looking motherfucker, but only marginally. the same weird horse-piss pockets of fat that sat all wrong on his unquestionaly male body. a body he had never taken care of as it was (the delusion!!!!!!!!!) the male skin texture and bone structure. I never saw the amhole, but knowing what I do now about the "success" of those surgeries, even if by some miracle he wasn't instantly clocked on sight, the client would've clicked once down there. and this AGP also didn't seem to understand that THIS WAS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION to put himself into. he had expectations of being able to do "lesbian doubles" with other sex workers and the fact he didn't consider that to engage in this fantasy would also be potentially endangering a female (not to mention damaging her professional reputation) just said it all to me. and there was no way I could knock sense into him because I knew I'd just be accused of transphobia and there'd be social backlash in our friendship group.
at one point I said to him... have you really given this serious thought? because sex work isn't easy. you have to get extremely intimate very quickly with a total stranger who might be repulsive to you. you have a good stable job and a decent income. you don't need to do this. so my question is... why would you do this extremely stigmatised and potentially traumatic job if you don't need to?
he couldn't answer. mumbled something about needing money to pay off a debt, something something, but it was feeble and obviously not urgent for him. couldn't meet my eye. I was naive then. I thought AGPs were a transphobic myth (even though they'd been all around me - but you see, THEY told me that AGPs were a transphobic myth, when I was still a kid). now I know the whole thing was just his sordid sexual fantasy of being 'degraded' the way he imagines is a female experience. he mentioned something about how so many TIMs were sex workers, he felt like he wasn't as legit without doing it. I mean... wtf? talking it over with my bestie later, she also suggested he perhaps even hoped for a traumatic experience to 'complete' his degradation fantasy; what he fetishes it feels like to be a woman. this fucker is the full deal - one of the AGP menace that has colonised the local roller derby community. I later saw him arguing on facebook that TIMs present no threat to women's sports. finally realising just how much every aspect of an AGP's life is about making everyone around them perform faith in their misogynistic, sexual fantasies made me feel icky indeed.
most male sex workers who do see women are gay. one young gay I knew in sex work decided he would offer his services to women at one point. only problem was he was a bitter, resentful misogynist and the only story I ever heard him tell of seeing a female client it came off sounding like he was a absolute asshole to her and lowkey stigmatised her genitalia in the process (because women don't get enough of that as it is). in general, what I've heard of women's experiences with male sex workers often turn out like the average hook up eperience with a rando - they still can't focus on their actual JOB, they rarely have any idea what actual women are into or how women's bodies work, and it's all mostly about them.
that said, I have known a couple of women who had amazing experiences; but that wasn't the sex. that was the experience of having a beautiful male lavish attention on them without needing to give anything in return (except payment).
the amount of tranny cope the AGPs are indulging in when they claim to be successful sex workers just convinces me all the more this claim is about feeding their fetish and forcing others to participate. one AGP I knew had a desire to do sex work even though he had a healthy IT income (of course) and fully expected he would be able to present as a woman and not a trannie because he's had the work done. he thought he passed. I didn't know what to say in response to this because HE DIDN'T PASS and he didn't seem to grasp that any man walking into the room prepared to hand over his money for sex with a cute girl (and he wasn't even a cute male) would clock him INSTANTLY. I mean, he was better looking that this cro-magnon snape-looking motherfucker, but only marginally. the same weird horse-piss pockets of fat that sat all wrong on his unquestionaly male body. a body he had never taken care of as it was (the delusion!!!!!!!!!) the male skin texture and bone structure. I never saw the amhole, but knowing what I do now about the "success" of those surgeries, even if by some miracle he wasn't instantly clocked on sight, the client would've clicked once down there. and this AGP also didn't seem to understand that THIS WAS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION to put himself into. he had expectations of being able to do "lesbian doubles" with other sex workers and the fact he didn't consider that to engage in this fantasy would also be potentially endangering a female (not to mention damaging her professional reputation) just said it all to me. and there was no way I could knock sense into him because I knew I'd just be accused of transphobia and there'd be social backlash in our friendship group.
at one point I said to him... have you really given this serious thought? because sex work isn't easy. you have to get extremely intimate very quickly with a total stranger who might be repulsive to you. you have a good stable job and a decent income. you don't need to do this. so my question is... why would you do this extremely stigmatised and potentially traumatic job if you don't need to?
he couldn't answer. mumbled something about needing money to pay off a debt, something something, but it was feeble and obviously not urgent for him. couldn't meet my eye. I was naive then. I thought AGPs were a transphobic myth (even though they'd been all around me - but you see, THEY told me that AGPs were a transphobic myth, when I was still a kid). now I know the whole thing was just his sordid sexual fantasy of being 'degraded' the way he imagines is a female experience. he mentioned something about how so many TIMs were sex workers, he felt like he wasn't as legit without doing it. I mean... wtf? talking it over with my bestie later, she also suggested he perhaps even hoped for a traumatic experience to 'complete' his degradation fantasy; what he fetishes it feels like to be a woman. this fucker is the full deal - one of the AGP menace that has colonised the local roller derby community. I later saw him arguing on facebook that TIMs present no threat to women's sports. finally realising just how much every aspect of an AGP's life is about making everyone around them perform faith in their misogynistic, sexual fantasies made me feel icky indeed.
Exactly! Every time I see the “genital preference” argument on Twitter, troons always bring up this hypothetical scenario of “lesbians being attracted to a trans woman but rejecting them after knowing they have a penis”. The majority of mtf troons do not pass and a woman isn’t a costume. Lesbians see your obviously male body and have no sexual attraction to you. Knowledge about the state of your genitals (mutilated or not) is not needed.
Both primary and secondary characteristics play a role in attraction. There are lesbians who date pre-transition ftm because they just look like butch women. However, I would reckon that lesbians aren’t attracted to ftms who are far into transition. How many lesbians in this thread are attracted to someone like Aydian Dowling? We know she has a vagina but those secondary characteristics kill the attraction.
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lesbians work differently. there's already been a fair bit of discussion in the thread about lesbian communities being more protective and inclusive of TIFs, because of the underlying shared sex factor. what a lot of people don't know is that, by and large, the lesbian community actually circled the wagons and went full blown affirmation of TIFs early on. that was entirely sex based - we felt compelled to protect fellow females who were walking an extremely difficult and stigmatised path. I mean, the EMOTION that was involved. females can get very intense when we are united over a sex based experience. yes, there were those who objected, but the lesbian community really led the way within queer spaces with regards to 'acceptance' of trans identity. when the trans tsunami really got going, sweeping up all the butches in its wake, the community simply adjusted its language and concepts to fit the new phenomenon. since there were basically no butches left, it HAD to. the concept of TIFs being excluded, from lesbian spaces or as dating partners, is simply ludicrous to many same sex attracted females. they're female. of course they are 'valid' as a person of desirability. this TIF is a particularly attractive person who has put a lot of effort into her physique - but most TIFs do just fine for dates with their patchy pube beards and beer bellies anyway. in some ways they are even coveted as partners, because of the fetishism resulting from over-compensatory affirmation. lesbians are DEVOTED to TIFs and their particular trauma is really mythologised and treated like some sort of sacred experience beyond what any other female could understand. many lesbians are absolutely attracted to late transition TIFs and they are everywhere in large queer communities, entirely accepted and unquestioned (the lesbians uncomfortable with the trans movement basically broke off into a separate scene and there's not a lot of overlap by intention). I'd wager Aydian is up to the eyeballs in pussy and probably doing what they all do once they gain that kind of sexual cachet - living it up and fucking a different girl every week, feeling like the realest man that ever manned. she'd have the girls catfighting over her needle-pocked ass. I've seen it happen! lesbian communities regard TIFs very differently to the general population. it is not just appearance based, it is based on the culture of lionising masculine women as the ultimate lesbian experience, mingled with the shame of being same sex attracted. understanding the loyalty same-sex attracted females feel to each other brings important context to the very different role TIFs can enjoy in lesbian spaces. sure, a lot of lesbians would agree this female is too male looking to be hot - but there's a lot of others who would push you down and trample your inert body to be first in line. tackling the tranny menace does require understanding that different communities have responded in different ways.







