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Mr. Moore is a particularly low effort troon, but I'm still surprised he doesn't tuck.

I just want to take that beautiful female far away from him. RUN GIRL, RUN!!! the way these freaks just sully the natural beauty of healthy males and females even by being in their presence is some Croenenberg shit. she is a goddess next to that blight upon the earth. never do you more wholly realise how perfect the natural human being is than when it is placed next to an abomination.

and there is absolutely, totally, one hundred per cent NO WAY this fucker ever made an income doing sex work. the way these freaking AGPs strut around talking about how they're sex workers really does make me seethe, because they have no fucking idea how the industry works. and it is just insulting to those who do sex work and have to actually deal with the confrontational intimacy and stigma of that work. the only trannies who can make money doing sex work are the gorgeous HSTS who spend 98% of their time and money on their appearance. and even then their clientele generally want them to be "active" (able to get erect), and their client base are always chasers and fetishists. both these factors only contributes to their generally poor mental health. getting the chop narrows their market considerably. the average hetero male is not interested, and the chasers lose interest once the dick is gone. the irony of HSTS doing sex work to save up for their surgeries is once they've got the amhole, they take themselves out of the game. then they have to figure out a normal life and career (or a husband to take care of them).
he was in no kind of shape to be a successful escort to gay men. lol lol lol lol lol at the very idea. he wasn't twinky or pretty enough, nor was he butch and built enough. the high roller clients he speak of do not want an ugly, awkward, ill-presenting AGP sucking their cock; they want a beautiful specimen of maleness to admire and covet.
it is not impossible for a not-conventionally handsome man to be successful in gay sex work, but a man with money to burn is going to get himself the best looking Chad he can find. the average looking guys cater to the average market who isn't so fussy; one very ordinary looking guy I knew primarily serviced disabled clients. the money is NOT good. male escorts on average make considerably less than female, whichever their client base. my knowledge is out of date now but I do remember years back your average female escort might ask $250 per hour; males could at best hope for $150, but that was at best.
women actually do pay for sex. it is extremely rare comparatively, but it does happen. again, however, no woman looking to spend her hard-earned money (and women generally have less disposable cash than men) on what she hopes will be a pleasurable experience is going to spend it on this ugly fuckknuckle. she's gonna hire herself a Chad. she's going to spend some time looking at her options. serious escorts have professional websites that explain the style of their services & multiple professional photos. or a serious agency would discuss with her exactly what she wants and make a recommendation from their books of vetted contrators. no serious agency would put this guy on their books. he has nothing to offer. no woman looking to hire a male or female escort wants a smirking, ugly AGP in bad-fitting lingerie.

most male sex workers who do see women are gay. one young gay I knew in sex work decided he would offer his services to women at one point. only problem was he was a bitter, resentful misogynist and the only story I ever heard him tell of seeing a female client it came off sounding like he was a absolute asshole to her and lowkey stigmatised her genitalia in the process (because women don't get enough of that as it is). in general, what I've heard of women's experiences with male sex workers often turn out like the average hook up eperience with a rando - they still can't focus on their actual JOB, they rarely have any idea what actual women are into or how women's bodies work, and it's all mostly about them.

that said, I have known a couple of women who had amazing experiences; but that wasn't the sex. that was the experience of having a beautiful male lavish attention on them without needing to give anything in return (except payment).

the amount of tranny cope the AGPs are indulging in when they claim to be successful sex workers just convinces me all the more this claim is about feeding their fetish and forcing others to participate. one AGP I knew had a desire to do sex work even though he had a healthy IT income (of course) and fully expected he would be able to present as a woman and not a trannie because he's had the work done. he thought he passed. I didn't know what to say in response to this because HE DIDN'T PASS and he didn't seem to grasp that any man walking into the room prepared to hand over his money for sex with a cute girl (and he wasn't even a cute male) would clock him INSTANTLY. I mean, he was better looking that this cro-magnon snape-looking motherfucker, but only marginally. the same weird horse-piss pockets of fat that sat all wrong on his unquestionaly male body. a body he had never taken care of as it was (the delusion!!!!!!!!!) the male skin texture and bone structure. I never saw the amhole, but knowing what I do now about the "success" of those surgeries, even if by some miracle he wasn't instantly clocked on sight, the client would've clicked once down there. and this AGP also didn't seem to understand that THIS WAS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION to put himself into. he had expectations of being able to do "lesbian doubles" with other sex workers and the fact he didn't consider that to engage in this fantasy would also be potentially endangering a female (not to mention damaging her professional reputation) just said it all to me. and there was no way I could knock sense into him because I knew I'd just be accused of transphobia and there'd be social backlash in our friendship group.
at one point I said to him... have you really given this serious thought? because sex work isn't easy. you have to get extremely intimate very quickly with a total stranger who might be repulsive to you. you have a good stable job and a decent income. you don't need to do this. so my question is... why would you do this extremely stigmatised and potentially traumatic job if you don't need to?

he couldn't answer. mumbled something about needing money to pay off a debt, something something, but it was feeble and obviously not urgent for him. couldn't meet my eye. I was naive then. I thought AGPs were a transphobic myth (even though they'd been all around me - but you see, THEY told me that AGPs were a transphobic myth, when I was still a kid). now I know the whole thing was just his sordid sexual fantasy of being 'degraded' the way he imagines is a female experience. he mentioned something about how so many TIMs were sex workers, he felt like he wasn't as legit without doing it. I mean... wtf? talking it over with my bestie later, she also suggested he perhaps even hoped for a traumatic experience to 'complete' his degradation fantasy; what he fetishes it feels like to be a woman. this fucker is the full deal - one of the AGP menace that has colonised the local roller derby community. I later saw him arguing on facebook that TIMs present no threat to women's sports. finally realising just how much every aspect of an AGP's life is about making everyone around them perform faith in their misogynistic, sexual fantasies made me feel icky indeed.

Exactly! Every time I see the “genital preference” argument on Twitter, troons always bring up this hypothetical scenario of “lesbians being attracted to a trans woman but rejecting them after knowing they have a penis”. The majority of mtf troons do not pass and a woman isn’t a costume. Lesbians see your obviously male body and have no sexual attraction to you. Knowledge about the state of your genitals (mutilated or not) is not needed.

Both primary and secondary characteristics play a role in attraction. There are lesbians who date pre-transition ftm because they just look like butch women. However, I would reckon that lesbians aren’t attracted to ftms who are far into transition. How many lesbians in this thread are attracted to someone like Aydian Dowling? We know she has a vagina but those secondary characteristics kill the attraction.

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lesbians work differently. there's already been a fair bit of discussion in the thread about lesbian communities being more protective and inclusive of TIFs, because of the underlying shared sex factor. what a lot of people don't know is that, by and large, the lesbian community actually circled the wagons and went full blown affirmation of TIFs early on. that was entirely sex based - we felt compelled to protect fellow females who were walking an extremely difficult and stigmatised path. I mean, the EMOTION that was involved. females can get very intense when we are united over a sex based experience. yes, there were those who objected, but the lesbian community really led the way within queer spaces with regards to 'acceptance' of trans identity. when the trans tsunami really got going, sweeping up all the butches in its wake, the community simply adjusted its language and concepts to fit the new phenomenon. since there were basically no butches left, it HAD to. the concept of TIFs being excluded, from lesbian spaces or as dating partners, is simply ludicrous to many same sex attracted females. they're female. of course they are 'valid' as a person of desirability. this TIF is a particularly attractive person who has put a lot of effort into her physique - but most TIFs do just fine for dates with their patchy pube beards and beer bellies anyway. in some ways they are even coveted as partners, because of the fetishism resulting from over-compensatory affirmation. lesbians are DEVOTED to TIFs and their particular trauma is really mythologised and treated like some sort of sacred experience beyond what any other female could understand. many lesbians are absolutely attracted to late transition TIFs and they are everywhere in large queer communities, entirely accepted and unquestioned (the lesbians uncomfortable with the trans movement basically broke off into a separate scene and there's not a lot of overlap by intention). I'd wager Aydian is up to the eyeballs in pussy and probably doing what they all do once they gain that kind of sexual cachet - living it up and fucking a different girl every week, feeling like the realest man that ever manned. she'd have the girls catfighting over her needle-pocked ass. I've seen it happen! lesbian communities regard TIFs very differently to the general population. it is not just appearance based, it is based on the culture of lionising masculine women as the ultimate lesbian experience, mingled with the shame of being same sex attracted. understanding the loyalty same-sex attracted females feel to each other brings important context to the very different role TIFs can enjoy in lesbian spaces. sure, a lot of lesbians would agree this female is too male looking to be hot - but there's a lot of others who would push you down and trample your inert body to be first in line. tackling the tranny menace does require understanding that different communities have responded in different ways.
 
I just want to take that beautiful female far away from him. RUN GIRL, RUN!!! the way these freaks just sully the natural beauty of healthy males and females even by being in their presence is some Croenenberg shit. she is a goddess next to that blight upon the earth. never do you more wholly realise how perfect the natural human being is than when it is placed next to an abomination.

and there is absolutely, totally, one hundred per cent NO WAY this fucker ever made an income doing sex work. the way these freaking AGPs strut around talking about how they're sex workers really does make me seethe, because they have no fucking idea how the industry works. and it is just insulting to those who do sex work and have to actually deal with the confrontational intimacy and stigma of that work. the only trannies who can make money doing sex work are the gorgeous HSTS who spend 98% of their time and money on their appearance. and even then their clientele generally want them to be "active" (able to get erect), and their client base are always chasers and fetishists. both these factors only contributes to their generally poor mental health. getting the chop narrows their market considerably. the average hetero male is not interested, and the chasers lose interest once the dick is gone. the irony of HSTS doing sex work to save up for their surgeries is once they've got the amhole, they take themselves out of the game. then they have to figure out a normal life and career (or a husband to take care of them).
he was in no kind of shape to be a successful escort to gay men. lol lol lol lol lol at the very idea. he wasn't twinky or pretty enough, nor was he butch and built enough. the high roller clients he speak of do not want an ugly, awkward, ill-presenting AGP sucking their cock; they want a beautiful specimen of maleness to admire and covet.
it is not impossible for a not-conventionally handsome man to be successful in gay sex work, but a man with money to burn is going to get himself the best looking Chad he can find. the average looking guys cater to the average market who isn't so fussy; one very ordinary looking guy I knew primarily serviced disabled clients. the money is NOT good. male escorts on average make considerably less than female, whichever their client base. my knowledge is out of date now but I do remember years back your average female escort might ask $250 per hour; males could at best hope for $150, but that was at best.
women actually do pay for sex. it is extremely rare comparatively, but it does happen. again, however, no woman looking to spend her hard-earned money (and women generally have less disposable cash than men) on what she hopes will be a pleasurable experience is going to spend it on this ugly fuckknuckle. she's gonna hire herself a Chad. she's going to spend some time looking at her options. serious escorts have professional websites that explain the style of their services & multiple professional photos. or a serious agency would discuss with her exactly what she wants and make a recommendation from their books of vetted contrators. no serious agency would put this guy on their books. he has nothing to offer. no woman looking to hire a male or female escort wants a smirking, ugly AGP in bad-fitting lingerie.

most male sex workers who do see women are gay. one young gay I knew in sex work decided he would offer his services to women at one point. only problem was he was a bitter, resentful misogynist and the only story I ever heard him tell of seeing a female client it came off sounding like he was a absolute asshole to her and lowkey stigmatised her genitalia in the process (because women don't get enough of that as it is). in general, what I've heard of women's experiences with male sex workers often turn out like the average hook up eperience with a rando - they still can't focus on their actual JOB, they rarely have any idea what actual women are into or how women's bodies work, and it's all mostly about them.

that said, I have known a couple of women who had amazing experiences; but that wasn't the sex. that was the experience of having a beautiful male lavish attention on them without needing to give anything in return (except payment).

the amount of tranny cope the AGPs are indulging in when they claim to be successful sex workers just convinces me all the more this claim is about feeding their fetish and forcing others to participate. one AGP I knew had a desire to do sex work even though he had a healthy IT income (of course) and fully expected he would be able to present as a woman and not a trannie because he's had the work done. he thought he passed. I didn't know what to say in response to this because HE DIDN'T PASS and he didn't seem to grasp that any man walking into the room prepared to hand over his money for sex with a cute girl (and he wasn't even a cute male) would clock him INSTANTLY. I mean, he was better looking that this cro-magnon snape-looking motherfucker, but only marginally. the same weird horse-piss pockets of fat that sat all wrong on his unquestionaly male body. a body he had never taken care of as it was (the delusion!!!!!!!!!) the male skin texture and bone structure. I never saw the amhole, but knowing what I do now about the "success" of those surgeries, even if by some miracle he wasn't instantly clocked on sight, the client would've clicked once down there. and this AGP also didn't seem to understand that THIS WAS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION to put himself into. he had expectations of being able to do "lesbian doubles" with other sex workers and the fact he didn't consider that to engage in this fantasy would also be potentially endangering a female (not to mention damaging her professional reputation) just said it all to me. and there was no way I could knock sense into him because I knew I'd just be accused of transphobia and there'd be social backlash in our friendship group.
at one point I said to him... have you really given this serious thought? because sex work isn't easy. you have to get extremely intimate very quickly with a total stranger who might be repulsive to you. you have a good stable job and a decent income. you don't need to do this. so my question is... why would you do this extremely stigmatised and potentially traumatic job if you don't need to?

he couldn't answer. mumbled something about needing money to pay off a debt, something something, but it was feeble and obviously not urgent for him. couldn't meet my eye. I was naive then. I thought AGPs were a transphobic myth (even though they'd been all around me - but you see, THEY told me that AGPs were a transphobic myth, when I was still a kid). now I know the whole thing was just his sordid sexual fantasy of being 'degraded' the way he imagines is a female experience. he mentioned something about how so many TIMs were sex workers, he felt like he wasn't as legit without doing it. I mean... wtf? talking it over with my bestie later, she also suggested he perhaps even hoped for a traumatic experience to 'complete' his degradation fantasy; what he fetishes it feels like to be a woman. this fucker is the full deal - one of the AGP menace that has colonised the local roller derby community. I later saw him arguing on facebook that TIMs present no threat to women's sports. finally realising just how much every aspect of an AGP's life is about making everyone around them perform faith in their misogynistic, sexual fantasies made me feel icky indeed.



lesbians work differently. there's already been a fair bit of discussion in the thread about lesbian communities being more protective and inclusive of TIFs, because of the underlying shared sex factor. what a lot of people don't know is that, by and large, the lesbian community actually circled the wagons and went full blown affirmation of TIFs early on. that was entirely sex based - we felt compelled to protect fellow females who were walking an extremely difficult and stigmatised path. I mean, the EMOTION that was involved. females can get very intense when we are united over a sex based experience. yes, there were those who objected, but the lesbian community really led the way within queer spaces with regards to 'acceptance' of trans identity. when the trans tsunami really got going, sweeping up all the butches in its wake, the community simply adjusted its language and concepts to fit the new phenomenon. since there were basically no butches left, it HAD to. the concept of TIFs being excluded, from lesbian spaces or as dating partners, is simply ludicrous to many same sex attracted females. they're female. of course they are 'valid' as a person of desirability. this TIF is a particularly attractive person who has put a lot of effort into her physique - but most TIFs do just fine for dates with their patchy pube beards and beer bellies anyway. in some ways they are even coveted as partners, because of the fetishism resulting from over-compensatory affirmation. lesbians are DEVOTED to TIFs and their particular trauma is really mythologised and treated like some sort of sacred experience beyond what any other female could understand. many lesbians are absolutely attracted to late transition TIFs and they are everywhere in large queer communities, entirely accepted and unquestioned (the lesbians uncomfortable with the trans movement basically broke off into a separate scene and there's not a lot of overlap by intention). I'd wager Aydian is up to the eyeballs in pussy and probably doing what they all do once they gain that kind of sexual cachet - living it up and fucking a different girl every week, feeling like the realest man that ever manned. she'd have the girls catfighting over her needle-pocked ass. I've seen it happen! lesbian communities regard TIFs very differently to the general population. it is not just appearance based, it is based on the culture of lionising masculine women as the ultimate lesbian experience, mingled with the shame of being same sex attracted. understanding the loyalty same-sex attracted females feel to each other brings important context to the very different role TIFs can enjoy in lesbian spaces. sure, a lot of lesbians would agree this female is too male looking to be hot - but there's a lot of others who would push you down and trample your inert body to be first in line. tackling the tranny menace does require understanding that different communities have responded in different ways.

oh he probably did 'sex work' alright, just less of the 'fancy expensive callboy' type and more of the 'giving away his asshole to strangers in an alley for crack money' type

alternatively it's all larp and the only 'sex work' he ever did was exchange ugly nudes with discord trannies online and receive a couple $5 patreon subscriptions for it, who knows
 
Here's something I was wondering about: it seems that hrt for trans women can go up to 100 mg of estrogen a day.

While this doesn't seem much, normal birth control pills contains something around 25 mcg a day. That's between 1000 and 10.000 times less!

Now, most people know that hormonal birth control massively ramps up your risk for hormone-sensitive cancers and blood cloths. So much so that the chance of getting a blood cloth was many times higher than getting one from a covid shot (which got ample media attention).

Here is my question: how can they know these risks and still go through with it?? Also, the stuff I mentioned was all applicable to women. Almost nightmare inducing what havoc that could instill in a male body.

It just blows my mind when I think about it. And doctors seem to hand these out like candy nowadays.
I suppose the reason more hormones are treated is because they need to flood what few estrogen receptors their male body has. Both men and women make male and female hormones, just in vastly different amounts, and we have receptors for both, again in vastly different amounts. Men taking female hormones have to make up for the lack of estrogen already present but also have to really make use of what few estrogen receptors they have. Which is why you never see large natural breasts on a trans woman or a full natural body hair on a trans man. There just aren’t enough receptors to catch all the hormone you are taking.
When not dressing outright fetishistically, I find a lot of them seem to pattern their clothing after their mothers (explaining why so many older/middle-aged troons tend to dress retro), rarely ever their sisters (that won't stop them from stealing their panties to wear, of course), aunts or cousins, nor other females they encounter as friends or aspirative rivals. E.g, Rudy Giuliani dressing in a sick AGP parody of how a 1950s (when Giuliani would have been a child) housewife would appear:

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To be fair I think “America’s Mayor” was just doing drag there. I think the push towards a more “vintage” look is that those looks tend to be more classically feminine. There was also a vintage revival of sorts in the mid to late 90s so anyone in their 40s-50s has that ascetic in their youth to draw upon. So some of it might be natural?
I remember when one compared his wound rotting smell to the natural smell of a vagina and that all vaginas have a smell. Or when one compared him dilating his open wound to a women with vaginimus who dilates for easier intercourse Yes you are right they like to delude themselves into believing their messes is just another “girly” issue. Alot of these are truly abominations .
Rate me MATI but goodness, vaginimus isn’t a “girly issue” it’s an issue that women have due to trauma and/or shame. And if a woman is dilating she is going through pain to have a sexual experience/get pregnant/whatever. It’s not something to fetishize over, it’s not just a girly issue it’s a real problem that causes real agony and unlike period cramps women who suffer from it tend not to joke about it online. They tend to feel ashamed and broken.
Good lord.
 
Speaking of the warming of black hearts. That last paragraph especially is amazing and will cause much seething.

There isn't anything that doesn't end in yet more internet regulation and censorship in the UK, unfortunately. Censorship of social media is not a good thing, as merely letting the public act uncensored without any restrain will destroy the identities of these troons in no time.
Rate me MATI but goodness, vaginimus isn’t a “girly issue” it’s an issue that women have due to trauma and/or shame. And if a woman is dilating she is going through pain to have a sexual experience/get pregnant/whatever. It’s not something to fetishize over, it’s not just a girly issue it’s a real problem that causes real agony and unlike period cramps women who suffer from it tend not to joke about it online. They tend to feel ashamed and broken.
Good lord.

They seem to think that e.coli in the vagina is 'common', not realising that this is not normal and leads to UTI in real women (though they can be forgiven since their festering intestinal holes are natural environments for bad bacteria growth, as there is no natural acid as found in the 'vagina'):

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There isn't anything that doesn't end in yet more internet regulation and censorship in the UK, unfortunately. Censorship of social media is not a good thing, as merely letting the public act uncensored without any restrain will destroy the identities of these troons in no time.


They seem to think that e.coli in the vagina is 'common', not realising that this is not normal and leads to UTI in real women (though they can be forgiven since their festering intestinal holes are natural environments for bad bacteria growth, as there is no natural acid as found in the vagina):

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Yeesh! That is bacterial vaginosis. It’s not uncommon, but it is an infection that you take medicine for and it can be unpleasant. It’s most certainly not a “every vagina is different and some have ecoli” situation.

Vaginismus (which I never spelt correctly, sorry!) is when the muscles in your vagina tighten up and shut at any attempts at penetration, even wanted penetration. It’s extremely painful, and even medical exams can leave sufferers in tears, Nevermind things like tampons. And it’s pretty much psychosomatic, so it’s all because of past trauma or shame. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaginismus/

That’s what I thought they were fetishizing that got me MATI. If they’re fetishizing bacterial vaginosis that’s just gross. Have at it I guess, but yuk.
 
Yeesh! That is bacterial vaginosis. It’s not uncommon, but it is an infection that you take medicine for and it can be unpleasant. It’s most certainly not a “every vagina is different and some have ecoli” situation.

Vaginismus (which I never spelt correctly, sorry!) is when the muscles in your vagina tighten up and shut at any attempts at penetration, even wanted penetration. It’s extremely painful, and even medical exams can leave sufferers in tears, Nevermind things like tampons. And it’s pretty much psychosomatic, so it’s all because of past trauma or shame. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaginismus/

That’s what I thought they were fetishizing that got me MATI. If they’re fetishizing bacterial vaginosis that’s just gross. Have at it I guess, but yuk.
oh you KNOW they fetishise vaginismus too. "oooh UwU, I'm such a delicate fragile feeeeemale with my super tight fuckhole, so sensitive and traumatised just like the realest females are, where is my strong lesbian swordswoman to open me up like a flower UwU"
there is no female experience that they will not violate and turn into a means for their personal sexual gratification. 100% they larp this shit during anal. the very real shame and brokeness actual females feel around this issue is likely just more grist for the perve mill.
 
Hahahahaaaa!

No wonder troons fucking hate TERFs, the dragging is just so effortless.
 
oh you KNOW they fetishise vaginismus too. "oooh UwU, I'm such a delicate fragile feeeeemale with my super tight fuckhole, so sensitive and traumatised just like the realest females are, where is my strong lesbian swordswoman to open me up like a flower UwU"
there is no female experience that they will not violate and turn into a means for their personal sexual gratification. 100% they larp this shit during anal. the very real shame and brokeness actual females feel around this issue is likely just more grist for the perve mill.
Yeah that’s nasty.
I’m generally a live and let live sort. You wanna pretend some trauma in the bedroom, fine. Knock your socks off. Everyone’s a consenting adult and I have no fucks to give.

But this is different somehow. A woman pretending this? Alright, you’re weird lady but go ahead. A dude pretending this? Alright man, you’re really fucking weird but you do you. But a guy, who is pretending to be a woman in everyday life larping this makes me MATI. Because it’s not a kink they’re playing with in the bedroom, it’s something they are pretending is real and that is sick.
 
there is no female experience that they will not violate and turn into a means for their personal sexual gratification
Oh, you reminded me about r/pcos closing due to transphobia. Polycystic ovary syndrome. You don’t have them, man. You don’t even frankenstein them from your prostate. The fuck.
(Although, maybe it was hordes of T-fucked “men” who screeched about their manly men “innie balls”)
 
There isn't anything that doesn't end in yet more internet regulation and censorship in the UK, unfortunately. Censorship of social media is not a good thing, as merely letting the public act uncensored without any restrain will destroy the identities of these troons in no time.

Okay, but the UK is not going to lose its internet censorship boner anytime soon and now at least it might use it against trannies as well instead of them unilaterally being able to use the police force as a way to punish women who argue with them. Let me get my 'AGP seething' joy where I can.

They seem to think that e.coli in the vagina is 'common', not realising that this is not normal and leads to UTI in real women (though they can be forgiven since their festering intestinal holes are natural environments for bad bacteria growth, as there is no natural acid as found in the vagina):

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Look at this comment there with 15 upvotes:
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Yeast infections are the literal opposite of anything involving bacteria, which is why a lot of women (and even some men!) get them after being on antibiotics. The dying off of 'good' bacteria allow the yeast to flourish because in a healthy vagina they are in balance.

For the 10,000th time, showing that troons know nothing about actual vaginas or actual female health problems, and can't be bothered to learn. A vagina is just a fuckable hole to them (pretty ironic considering their imitation ones usually don't end up being fuckable)

Yeah that’s nasty.
I’m generally a live and let live sort. You wanna pretend some trauma in the bedroom, fine. Knock your socks off. Everyone’s a consenting adult and I have no fucks to give.

But this is different somehow. A woman pretending this? Alright, you’re weird lady but go ahead. A dude pretending this? Alright man, you’re really fucking weird but you do you. But a guy, who is pretending to be a woman in everyday life larping this makes me MATI. Because it’s not a kink they’re playing with in the bedroom, it’s something they are pretending is real and that is sick.

Exactly. If they wanted to live out their weird 'tee hee I am a silly female ooh oof I am suffering from period cramps' shit in the bedroom, then I probably wouldn't want anything to do with them, but whatever, people are weird and I'm not going to lose sleep over dumb fantasies.

But they're not doing that, they're expecting people (particularly women and girls) to participate in their sexual fantasies 24/7.
 
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the only trannies who can make money doing sex work are the gorgeous HSTS who spend 98% of their time and money on their appearance.

I agree with you on everything except this part. I grew up in a neighborhood that had a huge population of tranny hookers. One of my favorite pastimes in highschool was driving up and down the main drag with my friends to gawk at them and their jonhs. Most of them put in a decent amount of effort, but there were plenty who looked like Jay-Z and Danny Trejo in Party City wigs climbing into and out of men's cars. I couldn't understand at the time why objectively less revolting specimens sometimes got passed up in favor of ugly, fridge-bodied trannies with mops on their heads. The ones who made an effort and the ones who didn't were all HSTS, but the low effort ones knew they were hideous, and so they catered to a niche clientele within a niche clientele; most chasers like "pretty" chicks with dicks, but some want absolutely horrifying looking faggoty manlets in clown makeup to moan in falsetto while getting plowed in the ass.

Anyway. Speaking of ugly trannies. A handmaid I know recently sent me this video to "prove" to me that troons are true and honest women.



She thought the video in general, but the last line in particular, was very profound for some reason. It's always so disheartening when women cape for troons. This fat Chinaman is basically conflating womanhood with retarded female stereotypes. And the last line is actually the most infuriating.

You're not a real woman until you don't want to be a woman anymore.

No, sir. You're not a real woman unless you were born one :crocodile:
 
Bullshit on the "sex worker" thing. They ALL have this fantasy. And he's claiming what, he was a rent boy for gay dudes? (Women don't hire men to fuck them, and certainly not THIS guy).

>Women don't hire men to fuck them

Why do people on this site always assume women have no sexuality beyond liking cute bras or reading fanfiction.
 
Hahahahaaaa!

No wonder troons fucking hate TERFs, the dragging is just so effortless.

I'd love to go out drinking with this babe.
I agree with you on everything except this part. I grew up in a neighborhood that had a huge population of tranny hookers. One of my favorite pastimes in highschool was driving up and down the main drag with my friends to gawk at them and their jonhs. Most of them put in a decent amount of effort, but there were plenty who looked like Jay-Z and Danny Trejo in Party City wigs climbing into and out of men's cars. I couldn't understand at the time why objectively less revolting specimens sometimes got passed up in favor of ugly, fridge-bodied trannies with mops on their heads. The ones who made an effort and the ones who didn't were all HSTS, but the low effort ones knew they were hideous, and so they catered to a niche clientele within a niche clientele; most chasers like "pretty" chicks with dicks, but some want absolutely horrifying looking faggoty manlets in clown makeup to moan in falsetto while getting plowed in the ass.

Anyway. Speaking of ugly trannies. A handmaid I know recently sent me this video to "prove" to me that troons are true and honest women.

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She thought the video in general, but the last line in particular, was very profound for some reason. It's always so disheartening when women cape for troons. This fat Chinaman is basically conflating womanhood with retarded female stereotypes. And the last line is actually the most infuriating.



No, sir. You're not a real woman unless you were born one :crocodile:

true true! I guess what I mean when I say “make money” is make an actual liveable income without having to do every degenerate thing the most degenerate of clients ask for.

women don't hire men to fuck them not because they have no sexuality, but because they can simply get it for free instead
sorry for the double post but I couldn’t add this to the previous one.

this is a bit simplistic. there are numerous reasons women don’t purchase sex, including a lack of culture around women buying sex, and less disposable income than men have on average.

as for women being able to get sex anytime anywhere… not really true. women also weigh up considerations between hooking up with any old rando, and directing a curated experience they have more control of. apprehension around purchasing sex means they may just decide up do without. there are many women in the world who don’t feel able to attract the men they desire and who therefore might be inclined to secure a sex worker for physical contact - but that isn’t going to do anything to address their sense of loneliness and undesirability, and women tend to sense this in a way men don’t. lonely men have the strangest habit of hiring sex workers with the hope authentic connection will result. women tend to not be under the same delusions.

it’s a myth that it’s easy for any woman anywhere to get the sex that she wants to have, with partners she wants to have it with. there are a lot of reasons that women don’t buy sex the same way men do, but sex on tap isn’t the foremost one.

like I’m sorry that you’re a paranoid incel I guess, but just because you’d fuck anything with two legs and a hole doesn’t mean that’s how the world works.

edit to add: oh yeah and another big factor women have to consider is the potential danger of being alone and vulnerable with a strange male. this isn’t something women who are attracted to men relish… it’s just a fact we have to take into consideration. wouldn’t be an issue if men were less rapey.
 
this is a bit simplistic. there are numerous reasons women don’t purchase sex, including a lack of culture around women buying sex, and less disposable income than men have on average.

Forgive me in advance for my gross generalizations, BUT for women, sex is best when shared with partners they know and trust intimately. For men, sex is best when shared with anyone/anything that makes their dicks hard. I don't think it's a lack of culture that prevents women from paying for sex... it's more like the kind of sex women want can't be bought. Men pay pros heaps of money for the "girlfriend experience", but women can't suspend disbelief in the same way.
 
Men pay pros heaps of money for the "girlfriend experience", but women can't suspend disbelief in the same way.
I would argue that even most men can't suspend disbelief in the same way which is why getting the "girlfriend experience" is seen as a desperately lonely and pathetic thing to do. The "girlfriend experience" is an extremely niche market compared to the market of men who just want to get their dick wet with a hot wo/man and probably mirrors the market of "women who pay for sex" in size. The difference in pricing stems from one being perceived and marketed as "the deluxe special" whereas the other is "the bare minimum to create a satisfied customer".
 
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Forgive me in advance for my gross generalizations, BUT for women, sex is best when shared with partners they know and trust intimately. For men, sex is best when shared with anyone/anything that makes their dicks hard.
This is a depressingly low opinion of men.
If men were content with paying prostitutes, escortcels would be happy with their lot, men would never bother getting married, and you'd never see 3 AM soul-searching reddit posts from men who feel that they're drifting apart from their wives. Being a man and feeling lonely in a relationship is awful - it wouldn't be awful if all men cared about was sex. Pity sex, for a lot of guys, is terrible, and worse than no sex.
If you spend too much time looking at autogynephiles on here, you might think most, or possibly even all men are like that, but that simply isn't true.
Edit: Several men in the posts after this assured us that, while not all men are lobotomized fuckbeasts, they themselves certainly are. I guess I'll applaud them for their honesty and self-awareness regarding their utter lack of humanity, and will hope that they stay at least 15 feet away from all school zones.
 
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Exactly! Every time I see the “genital preference” argument on Twitter, troons always bring up this hypothetical scenario of “lesbians being attracted to a trans woman but rejecting them after knowing they have a penis”.
it's off the charts low functioning autistic to even "argue" about the technicalities of attraction in the first place, which is of course on par with hunger in its primal simplicity, and only men who haven't gotten any, EVER, would think of it. it's a massive self own. as we learned earlier ITT the self-awareness part of their brains doesn't work. once you say "you should actually be sexually attracted to me because..." you've already lost

have fun using the "strapons are literally penises" line online, the only place you can lol
anywhere else women would cross the street or hide before you could bellow "she/her"
we don't want your weepy soft micropeen
 
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