Wiggery among Zoomers

[WelperHelper99]

As a older 01 zoomer (I refuse this newfag Zillennial term), I have noticed many things among the youth of today. From not knowing how to use Microsoft Office, to always talking about money and bitches with no moral qualms on how to get there, lack of basic literacy, I struggle to understand how in just a few years from my birth, we went from a generation that knew how to read, actually went outside, knew what the fuck a JPG is, and understood modern history to a reasonable degree (Do not recite to me the entire history of the Byzantines that you found on Youtube, they are fucking dead), to one that is basically young boomers that know how to play Xbox.

Another is morality. That phrase "It's not about the money" has been lost on kids. I'm not talking about you're employer shafting you, i'm talking about thinking that you need six figures to land a date. Or that someone would refuse money were it to be ill gotten gains. It's truly sad. Could it be lack of discipline? Growing up in a middle class home with parents that paid for everything? Too much Fortnite? I have no clue. Personally i think it could be a lack of religion, at least the presence of God in society, but that's just me. Thoughts?

 

[The Demiurge's Lost Socks]

The expansion of technology that the boomers and their kids and grandkids take for granted was accompanied by the retrograde of the intergenerational transfer of wisdom. Our fathers learned what was important in the key childhood stage of their lives; what was lost was the ability and desire to transfer this wisdom verifiably and confirmationally to their heirs in the key childhood stages. In addition, the boomers tendency towards egoism basically leaves them secure at the dinner table with no plans to pass the torch having ever entered their minds.

If you separate a kitten from its mother too early, it will nurse forever.

 

[Tony Vivaldi]

It was just as bad in the 70's-80's. There's always going to be cocksuckers, however there seems to be more of them today.

There's no single bullet. Definitely discipline is key. Sure it could be lack of religion as one of the issues, but we didn't know about widespread abuses back then with boi-fucking priests (it was covered up) and degenerate Rabbis (mostly because they weren't so numerous and loud, they knew their place then).

Demographics changed. Nigger worship increased. Employers figured they only needed you for awhile and cut you before retirement. Faggots and Lesbos were allowed and encouraged to come out of the closet despite they were categorically understood to be deviants that would groom and rape children given have the chance and everyone knew it.

Everyone lost their FEAR of righteousness and morality because it was backed the fuck up with a Bible, a rifle and the full credit and support of a government that knew when shit failed, it was gonna fail spectacularly.

That world doesn't exist anymore.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The expansion of technology that the boomers and their kids and grandkids take for granted was accompanied by the retrograde of the intergenerational transfer of wisdom. Our fathers learned what was important in the key childhood stage of their lives; what was lost was the ability and desire to transfer this wisdom verifiably and confirmationally to their heirs in the key childhood stages. In addition, the boomers tendency towards egoism basically leaves them secure at the dinner table with no plans to pass the torch having ever entered their minds.

If you separate a kitten from its mother too early, it will nurse forever.

The thing is the Technology did transfer, for a brief moment. Late ninety's to early 2000's. I still remember dicking around on my Dad's Lenovo, exploring everything about it. I'm no programmer, but somehow, my ability to assemble a powerpoint and download a game file directly to a computer without Steam puts me to a point where my younger welders think im smart with computers. It was smartphones man. Dumbed everything down. They will never know the pain of trying to get spore to work on a computer that is hilariously underpowered for it.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Zoomers are being raised by their teachers, Hollywood, TikTok, and Wall Street. Mom and Dad have nothing to do with it. Rather than being taught classical values, Zoomers are learning the values their teachers want them to learn: stupidity, moral turpitude, and lemming psychology.

 

[vomitusdeux]

In my time wiggers plagued my community, it's much worse now but even as a kid it was fucked up. a lot of girls my age back then kept saying wiggers were gross and would say "don't talk to me if you're a wigger" but still end up knocked up by one before age 18. Blew my fucking mind

 

[Shidoen]

They wanna be cool but it's annoying. Wiggers are just Goths all over again.

 

[YouDoNotHaveTheRight]

As a traveller I have realized it happens in certain pockets of land more than others. My locale has the shittiest work culture which bleeds into all other aspects of living in that locale. I go to poorer whuter places and maybe they aren't as lazy or other undesirable traits, but they may be equally incompetent and uneducated. I don't know why things are this way I am just glad there are still areas where people still give a fuck and are decent people.

 

[CuzinEd]

I am 38 years old. A millennial just older. Often confused as Gen X because of my behavior and preferences in music. This only happens on the internet. I would probably say it's mostly my preferences in music. I listen to a lot of what is called "Boomer music". Basically older music and especially rock. I prefer jock rock hard rock and 80's metal. Jock is just stupid dumb rock. Like AC/DC and shit like that. I generally doesn't listen to much music made after 1989. That's about the time music started to go to shit. With the alt rock from the early 90's then the Grunge stuff. Not a Nirvana fan. It all started to sound like whiny faggot shit. Not a fan of death metal either. You can growl into the mic if you want but you sound like a try hard fag.

I have noticed the increase in wiggerism with Zoomers and I have no idea where it comes from. They all have stupid looking hairstyles that make even the worse stuff from the past seem ok. The most idiotic cringey behavior I have ever seen. They make even the millennials when they were at their peak of cringe look better. When I was in my mid to late teens in the early to mid 2000's I never saw as many wiggers as I do now. Yeah, we had wiggers. But not like the level seen with Gen Z. Zoomers are by far the most wiggered out generation ever. They listen to nigger music dress like niggers act like niggers and talk like niggers. Walking around with their pants hanging off their asses. big chain necklaces around their necks and all kind of shit. It reminds me of the wiggers I used to see in the 90's when I was a kid and in my early teens. But crank it up to 100.

When I was in high school in the early 2000's most of the people were listening to white people music. It might have been new garbage but they still listened to white people music. People used to say things like you can't spell crap without rap and shit like that. There were wiggers. But when I was in high school I saw like 3 or 4 actual niggers the whole time I was there. Maybe there were others and I didn't see them. But that's all I saw. When I was in high school there were the goths the emo fags and all kinds of retards trying to be different but dressing and acting like everyone else. There seemed to be this rebellion against niggers and their music by the millennials back then.

The only thing I can think of is the Zoomers are being raised by the younger Gen X people that were the wiggers in the 90's. The people that were teenagers in the early and mid 90's that would have been young and grew up at the height of rap coming on the scene and especially gangster rap. Back in the very late 80's and I mean like 88-89 and the early 90's MTV was catching flak for not showing enough nigger music/rap. They were played mostly white people music. Then they started the "play more nigger music or we will call you racist" campaign against MTV and they started bombarding the young Gen X people with nigger music. I bet a lot of the Gen X people went on to raise Zoomers.

My parents were Boomers so I got exposed to a lot of "Boomer music" called classic rock. I wasn't raised by people who were teenagers at the height of the 90's niggermania. But I bet a lot of the Zoomers were. If you ask them how old their parents are they will probably say in their 40's. Probably mid to late 40's. That would have made them teens in the early to mid 90's or so. I was 13 in 1997. Some of the Zoomers might have parents who are older Millennials like me who were also wiggers. But I bet they are mostly Gen X just on the younger side. The older Gen X people don't seem to suffer from wiggerism much. So if you are Zoomer in your 20's you might have parents who are older Gen X. If they were 5 or more years younger they would probably be wiggers.

It was just as bad in the 70's-80's. There's always going to be cocksuckers, however there seems to be more of them today.

There's no single bullet. Definitely discipline is key. Sure it could be lack of religion as one of the issues, but we didn't know about widespread abuses back then with boi-fucking priests (it was covered up) and degenerate Rabbis (mostly because they weren't so numerous and loud, they knew their place then).

Demographics changed. Nigger worship increased. Employers figured they only needed you for awhile and cut you before retirement. Faggots and Lesbos were allowed and encouraged to come out of the closet despite they were categorically understood to be deviants that would groom and rape children given have the chance and everyone knew it.

Everyone lost their FEAR of righteousness and morality because it was backed the fuck up with a Bible, a rifle and the full credit and support of a government that knew when shit failed, it was gonna fail spectacularly.

That world doesn't exist anymore.

This seems to be a Zoomer issue. Like I said I am a millennial and I didn't notice this level of the wigger faggotry with millennials. The only time I have seen it this bad is back in the 90's with the younger Gen X wiggers.

They wanna be cool but it's annoying. Wiggers are just Goths all over again.

I would rather have the goths.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Zoomers are being raised by their teachers, Hollywood, TikTok, and Wall Street. Mom and Dad have nothing to do with it. Rather than being taught classical values, Zoomers are learning the values their teachers want them to learn: stupidity, moral turpitude, and lemming psychology.

That is a factor I didn't take into account in my OP. Teachers have definitely had a hand in the degradation of Zoomers as a whole. My nephews could barely read until they moved because they wern't teaching Phonics.

In my time wiggers plagued my community, it's much worse now but even as a kid it was fucked up. a lot of girls my age back then kept saying wiggers were gross and would say "don't talk to me if you're a wigger" but still end up knocked up by one before age 18. Blew my fucking mind

Teenage pregnancy has gone down, but the sex culture has remained.

As a traveller I have realized it happens in certain pockets of land more than others. My locale has the shittiest work culture which bleeds into all other aspects of living in that locale. I go to poorer whuter places and maybe they aren't as lazy or other undesirable traits, but they may be equally incompetent and uneducated. I don't know why things are this way I am just glad there are still areas where people still give a fuck and are decent people.

Very true. Even still ive found, even if you're rich, if you're in a middle of nowhere area, wiggerdom and general lawlessness finds its way to you. Just look at any young BMW driver. Doesn't know what a fucking turn signal is.

I have noticed the increase in wiggerism with Zoomers and I have no idea where it comes from. They all have stupid looking hairstyles that make even the worse stuff from the past seem ok. The most idiotic cringey behavior I have ever seen. They make even the millennials when they were at their peak of cringe look better. When I was in my mid to late teens in the early to mid 2000's I never saw as many wiggers as I do now. Yeah, we had wiggers. But not like the level seen with Gen Z. Zoomers are by far the most wiggered out generation ever. They listen to nigger music dress like niggers act like niggers and talk like niggers. Walking around with their pants hanging off their asses. big chain necklaces around their necks and all kind of shit. It reminds me of the wiggers I used to see in the 90's when I was a kid and in my early teens. But crank it up to 100.

The dress code is definitely a sign of the times. Back when i was growing up, it was pretty standard, T-shirt and jeans/ shorts, saggy pants was for losers. Now its everywhere. Personally i look at the 20's with awe, that Great Gatsby vibe- that's how you're supposed to present your self, even in a T-shirt, well dressed, hair well cut but not over groomed, actual standards.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

To me it looks like a bunch of people who straight up have no idea what they're doing, and have defaulted to vague mimicry of whatever they see pushed in the media.

And to be fair who are they supposed to base their lifestyle off of?
I think if they were presented an appealing alternative to navigate the world they'd happily pick it up, but someone has to actually figure out what that looks like and set the example for that to happen.

As it stands acting like a wigger almost certainly seems superior to whatever spiritually vacant, antisocial, out of touch lifestyle the boomers present. If anyone wants that to change current younger generations of adults are probably going to have to not just pass on the torch, but also light it themselves.

Teenage pregnancy has gone down, but the sex culture has remained.

Unfortunately that's a lot like how teen substance abuse has gone down: that isn't because kids are socially healthier, it's because they don't actually have irl connections with anyone.

Idk if the sex culture has remained, I feel like 20 years ago as teenagers it wasn't this omnipresent. That has only increased as the amount of intimacy people actually engage in has decreased.

It seems like it's mostly a relatability thing as this point, because that's what's cool to talk about.

That is a factor I didn't take into account in my OP. Teachers have definitely had a hand in the degradation of Zoomers as a whole. My nephews could barely read until they moved because they wern't teaching Phonics.

Honestly my belief at this point is that schools aren't even designed to teach children anymore. They're community funded daycares where parents can send their kids for 7 hours a day while they work.

That's school's function at this point: enabling households where all parents work first, indoctrination second, and usable education third.

 

[WelperHelper99]

To me it looks like a bunch of people who straight up have no idea what they're doing, and have defaulted to vague mimicry of whatever they see pushed in the media.

And to be fair who are they supposed to base their lifestyle off of?
I think if they were presented an appealing alternative to navigate the world they'd happily pick it up, but someone has to actually figure out what that looks like and set the example for that to happen.

As it stands acting like a wigger almost certainly seems superior to whatever spiritually vacant, antisocial, out of touch lifestyle the boomers present. If anyone wants that to change current younger generations of adults are probably going to have to not just pass on the torch, but also light it themselves.

In a way I think that's what's going on. Life is shit, so why act like well adjusted citizens? Gangsters and Drug dealers in that frame of mind seem to have their shit together. I don't agree with it, but it is a theroy. Also the rivalry with the boomers, many a zoomer feels slighted by.

Unfortunately that's a lot like how teen substance abuse has gone down: that isn't because kids are socially healthier, it's because they don't actually have irl connections with anyone.

Idk if the sex culture has remained, I feel like 20 years ago as teenagers it wasn't this omnipresent. That has only increased as the amount of intimacy people actually engage in has decreased.

It seems like it's mostly a relatability thing as this point, because that's what's cool to talk about.

Yes and no. It really depends on who you are. Again, I weld. You can guess the guys i'm around. Condom use has seemed to gone up at least. But as for the more tech oriented people... yeah, they're fucked.

Honestly my belief at this point is that schools aren't even designed to teach children anymore. They're community funded daycares where parents can send their kids for 7 hours a day while they work.

That's school's function at this point: enabling households where all parents work first, indoctrination second, and usable education third.

Totally agree. What I have seen and heard, even compared to my schooling, seems completely retarded, pants on head. I actually learned in school, my teachers WANTED me to succeed. I also think things like books are being pushed less. I was a avid reader, went to the library after school every day growing up, enough that the librarians knew me. I learned so much. Kids today just wanna watch Tiktok on their phones and tablets. Closest thing I had was my DS lite. Even then, that got boring after a while, so i read. New wave social media isn't like that, it is enginnered to have you on 24/7.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

People respond to incentives and worshiping black people is a stance that is endorsed by the media, social media, every large corporation, schools, etc. Stopping it means requiring stopping the worship, which isn’t ending anytime soon. I completely understand why niggers are mad about cultural appropriation because I’d get pissed too if I saw some 16 year old white girl in the suburbs going “YO AYO” and spamming reaction gifs of black people.

 

[WelperHelper99]

People respond to incentives and worshiping black people is a stance that is endorsed by the media, social media, every large corporation, schools, etc. Stopping it means requiring stopping the worship, which isn’t ending anytime soon. I completely understand why niggers are mad about cultural appropriation because I’d get pissed too if I saw some 16 year old white girl in the suburbs going “YO AYO” and spamming reaction gifs of black people.

I think in order for that to happen, you would need to make hard work and looking presentable cool again. And i'm not asking you to be in a suit. Literally cut your hair, cinch your belt, and know how to change your oil. Also love your family. Enough of this fuck you dad mentality. That second part is harder to achieve, but it needs to happen.

 

[feralneet]

It's a symptom of greater decay. The establishment has entrenched itself so firmly in the post "occupy" era and has pushed division, nihilism, and the purposeful destruction of institutions and standards. The young people of today are unable to rebel against any establishment, as those with power gaslight and astroturf any natural attempt to their own ends. Being a sell out is no longer shameful, it's a sign of power and "clout". This is demoralization on a massive scale. Hopefully this dynamic (like most tyranny) will prove unsustainable.

 

[Hepativore]

I am an early millennial, and the junior high and high schools I went to were infested with wiggers. You had white kids in a medium-sized town who tried so hard to act like hoodrats and wannabe thugs and emulated the most negative stereotypes of black urban culture, saggy pants, fake gold chains, and all. They were constantly stealing people's stuff, engaging in casual and petty vandalism, and always looking for people to mob and harass. These "wiggers" were also some of the most popular kids in my school.

The few actual black kids in my schools acted like normal human beings for the most part, so wiggerdom has been a plague for some time, now, as I would say that "ghetto culture" is and has been the dominant culture in the US since the mid-1990's. Zoomers are just the latest generation to adopt it.

 

[The Demiurge's Lost Socks]

"Some people don't feel free unless they feel authorized to respect nothing."

 

[WelperHelper99]

It's a symptom of greater decay. The establishment has entrenched itself so firmly in the post "occupy" era and has pushed division, nihilism, and the purposeful destruction of institutions and standards. The young people of today are unable to rebel against any establishment, as those with power gaslight and astroturf any natural attempt to their own ends. Being a sell out is no longer shameful, it's a sign of power and "clout". This is demoralization on a massive scale. Hopefully this dynamic (like most tyranny) will prove unsustainable.

That is some optimism. I hope it comes true. There is plenty of clout chasing now a days, but a side affect i have found in the Zoomers favor, sadly, is that a fair bit are serious in school. Not as much dicking around as when i was a kid. That's because if they act retarded, it goes viral. There are two sides to this coin, the wiggers that dont care, and those that want a job above McDonalds in the next ten years. The question is which side is stronger, i fear.

I am an early millennial, and the junior high and high schools I went to were infested with wiggers. You had white kids in a medium-sized town who tried so hard to act like hoodrats and wannabe thugs and emulated the most negative stereotypes of black urban culture, saggy pants, fake gold chains, and all. They were constantly stealing people's stuff, engaging in casual and petty vandalism, and always looking for people to mob and harass. These "wiggers" were also some of the most popular kids in my school.

The few actual black kids in my schools acted like normal human beings for the most part, so wiggerdom has been a plague for some time, now, as I would say that "ghetto culture" is and has been the dominant culture in the US since the mid-1990's. Zoomers are just the latest generation to adopt it.

Thats the thing, the black guys I know are no where near the wiggers in my life. They actually have jobs, marriges, shocking i know, but its the truth! Ghetto culture has been pushed to the point that Zoomers from middle class families feel they have to act like hood rats.

 

[Local Fed]

As a older... lack of basic literacy

It's so over.

 

[CuzinEd]

To me it looks like a bunch of people who straight up have no idea what they're doing, and have defaulted to vague mimicry of whatever they see pushed in the media.

And to be fair who are they supposed to base their lifestyle off of?
I think if they were presented an appealing alternative to navigate the world they'd happily pick it up, but someone has to actually figure out what that looks like and set the example for that to happen.

As it stands acting like a wigger almost certainly seems superior to whatever spiritually vacant, antisocial, out of touch lifestyle the boomers present. If anyone wants that to change current younger generations of adults are probably going to have to not just pass on the torch, but also light it themselves.


Unfortunately that's a lot like how teen substance abuse has gone down: that isn't because kids are socially healthier, it's because they don't actually have irl connections with anyone.

Idk if the sex culture has remained, I feel like 20 years ago as teenagers it wasn't this omnipresent. That has only increased as the amount of intimacy people actually engage in has decreased.

It seems like it's mostly a relatability thing as this point, because that's what's cool to talk about.


Honestly my belief at this point is that schools aren't even designed to teach children anymore. They're community funded daycares where parents can send their kids for 7 hours a day while they work.

That's school's function at this point: enabling households where all parents work first, indoctrination second, and usable education third.

Boomers behave that way because they have money. When you have money you don't have any worries. Having money seriously cuts back on most of lifes concerns. There is a reason why millennials say things like "we have millennial money not Boomer money". Meaning they are broke. Most of the wealth in the country is in the hands of old people. The only thing separating a Boomer from anyone else though is the money. Give your average millennial money and watch how fast they turn into Boomers. You can actually see this with some of the Millennials that did manage to get decent paying jobs. They turned into Boomers. They act like younger Boomers. The same for Zoomers. Just give them some money and they will turn into Boomers. Give them a decent paying job a house with a lawn a big expensive car SUV or truck and they will Boomer out. I don't care about nothing. Fuck you I got mine. Is the exact attitude they will develop. Once people get to the top they don't give a shit about the people at the bottom anymore. Very rarely do you see a Millennial that managed to make it have any concern or empathy with the people in their generation that weren't as fortunate as they were. The only positive is these people are a minority and they get hated by everyone else. This also happened with Gen X. Some of the Gen X turned into Boomers as well. Matter of fact it's more common with Gen X than Millennials. They were the last people to grow up and be young enough in the US just before everything went to shit when Communism collapsed in Europe and globalism started. So some of the Gen X managed to do a little better. But the Boomers were still at the peak.

I think in order for that to happen, you would need to make hard work and looking presentable cool again. And i'm not asking you to be in a suit. Literally cut your hair, cinch your belt, and know how to change your oil. Also love your family. Enough of this fuck you dad mentality. That second part is harder to achieve, but it needs to happen.

The days of working hard being cool are over. It's not coming back. Especially with all the shitty low paying jobs in the US now. Zoomers do get haircuts they just look really stupid. Have you never seen the broccoli hairstyle? It looks stupid. Expecting people to know how to work on cars is pretty Boomer tier though. You can just take your car to a garage and get an oil change. That is if you own a car. Seeing as car ownership is in decline in the US. The people who do own cars can't afford to pay for them apparently because car repossession is on the rise.

I am an early millennial, and the junior high and high schools I went to were infested with wiggers. You had white kids in a medium-sized town who tried so hard to act like hoodrats and wannabe thugs and emulated the most negative stereotypes of black urban culture, saggy pants, fake gold chains, and all. They were constantly stealing people's stuff, engaging in casual and petty vandalism, and always looking for people to mob and harass. These "wiggers" were also some of the most popular kids in my school.

The few actual black kids in my schools acted like normal human beings for the most part, so wiggerdom has been a plague for some time, now, as I would say that "ghetto culture" is and has been the dominant culture in the US since the mid-1990's. Zoomers are just the latest generation to adopt it.

I grew up in Baltimore in the 90's as a kid. It's where I learned to hate niggers. The suburbs seems to produce a lot of wiggers. Most of the Zoomers were raised by post white flight Gen X and some of the older Millennials who were themselves raised in the suburbs on a steady diet of nigger worship on TV especially on MTV. The younger Gen X moved out to the suburbs and counties as the cities their Boomer parents lived in were turning into nigger filled shitholes in the 80's and 90's. Some of these Zoomers that live out in the "burbs" have probably never seen a nigger most of their lives in real life. The only time they see a nigger is in some form of media. The sterilized version of niggers. Which is odd because the Zoomers have grown up in world where the internet has always existed. It's not the older Millennials that were the last people to grow up in a world where the internet wasn't mainstream yet. They should be able to go find videos of niggers online. But then again with the way the internet has been sterilized and made normie friendly and given how Zoomers are broke brains they probably can't.
@WelperHelper99

As a older 01 zoomer (I refuse this newfag Zillennial term)

It depends on what your age is. If you are in your mid 20's you are Zoomer. Late 20's would make you a millennial. There is no such thing as a Zillennial. Not that I am aware of. The oldest Zoomers would be in their mid 20's or so. The oldest Millennials would be in their late 30's. I think 39 might be the cut off date for a Millennial. The last time I checked was a few years back and Millennials were born from 84 to I think 95. The youngest Millennials would be in their late 20's though. Probably getting to their 30's by now. People that are 27-30 would be Millennials. Though the people that are in their early to mid 30's are supposedly called core millennials. Because you have the older ones and the younger millennials. It's all just stupid marketing terms. That's what Gen X was. It was a marketing term some Boomers thought sounded slick and cool so it

The dress code is definitely a sign of the times. Back when i was growing up, it was pretty standard, T-shirt and jeans/ shorts, saggy pants was for losers. Now its everywhere. Personally i look at the 20's with awe, that Great Gatsby vibe- that's how you're supposed to present your self, even in a T-shirt, well dressed, hair well cut but not over groomed, actual standards.

Like I said we had Millennial wiggers. But they weren't that common. I saw more wiggers in the 90's with the younger Gen X people. That's what all these Zoomer wiggers remind me of. Those Gen X wigger faggots from the 90's. Constantly saying yo and shit and like that. I walked out of a grocery store a few weeks ago with these two Zoomer wiggers behind me and every other word out of their stupid fucking faces was "Yo".

That is some optimism. I hope it comes true. There is plenty of clout chasing now a days, but a side affect i have found in the Zoomers favor, sadly, is that a fair bit are serious in school. Not as much dicking around as when i was a kid. That's because if they act retarded, it goes viral. There are two sides to this coin, the wiggers that dont care, and those that want a job above McDonalds in the next ten years. The question is which side is stronger, i fear.

They are going to end up in shitty low paying service jobs no matter what they do. So the way they look at it is they might as well have fun. Even if they do manage to get a decent paying job they will have to take on one of the shitty low paying jobs for extra money thanks to inflation and the rising cost of living. The days of just being able to survive on just one just alone aren't just over, they are fucking dead. Most of the Zoomers are going to be just like the Millennials. In a world where there are no jobs. Just low paying shit jobs no one wants. There just aren't enough jobs out there to go around no matter what you know what skills you have or what level of education you have. There are only so many jobs that require high degrees of skill and competency. Some of them will end up stocking shelves till they are middle aged or older.