Why do you find yourself interested in all of this? - Share your feelings

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I’m fascinated by the dissident right, particularly those that rely heavily on antisemitic tropes. It goes back to the time I was in a graduate program in the humanities (I switched to medicine later) and I had a paper published concerning historical revisionism that overlapped with what I would characterize as a conspiracy theory predicated on antisemitism. The journal is probably best described as “mid-tier” in that it practiced the usual professional standards of editorial refereeing (i.e. peer review), but didn’t exert much in the way of influence. This is another way of saying that it gave you a nice bullet to put on your C.V. early in your career, but it isn’t really going to go far in establishing a solid reputation.

One day I go to check my email and I discover a handful of messages from complete strangers going apeshit on me for what I wrote in the aforementioned article. Much to my surprise, my article was discovered by a small community of white nationalists on one of those oldschool ezboard forums and they had gone through every line I had written and annotated it with this running commentary that I found absolutely hilarious: “here the pathology of the Jew-lover is made manifest” and “zionism has clearly emasculated the author” are a couple of comments that stick in my memory.

I decided to reply to the emails and it wasn’t long before I was having a pretty good conversation with a couple of the forum’s participants who had gone out of their way to contact me. It turned out that these guys really wanted to have meaningful conversations about the topic of my article, but didn’t really have any outlet to do so. The more I got to know them, it became apparent to me just how lonely and starved for conversation they actually were.

In the world of higher education my politics are considered conservative and I see myself as being part of a conservative intellectual tradition. In that context, I’m a bit of an outlier and was usually the token “conservative” in various reading groups and seminars and it was there I started to explore how one should engage the far right. Most of my peers and mentors usually adopted a stance that the kind of people who deny the Holocaust or take ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ seriously should be marginalized by means of social exclusion.

This more or less kickstarts a sort of anthropological interest that would eventually lead me to observe groups like America First. I’m not convinced one should adopt an aggressive policy of exclusion because it doesn’t really address the problem of why people come to adopt these views in the first place or even provide a reasonable path for the same people to abandon said views.

There is this unspoken assumption in progressive politics that a person's beliefs reflects a moral quality about that person; so someone with an honest belief that Jews are trying to dismantle the white race through miscegenation is immoral by virtue of just having that belief and should therefore be subject to social exclusion. I don’t share that assumption and have slowly come to the realization that it actually encourages people with such beliefs to dig their heels in and keep them.

When I watch these types of communities, I typically come away with a greater insight on how these worldviews function epistemically and what sort of needs are being met. When I have personal encounters with people who hold to these kinds of ideas, I like to think I can engage them better on an interpersonal level and get them off script so they can gain some perspective.
All academics are fags. You included.
 
I'm interested in this trashfire because I enjoy seeing a long-term glownigger op crash and burn, completely fail its mission to coral the politically active White citizens under 40, redpill countless normalfags on disgusting faggots/half-breeds/incels, and waste a lot of government money.
 
When I watch these types of communities, I typically come away with a greater insight on how these worldviews function epistemically and what sort of needs are being met. When I have personal encounters with people who hold to these kinds of ideas, I like to think I can engage them better on an interpersonal level and get them off script so they can gain some perspective.
I’ll give you some perspective, because I deeply tolerate these communities, and align myself with many of their values, for instance I think eugenics may be the answer to pedophilia, specifically.
Truly antisemetic people can be divided into two categories, they either have never met a Jewish person and characterize them by the roaming Hasids that often act exclusionary or outright prejudice towards “others”, or they are people who grew up amongst them and know that a lot of the “unjust hate” is rooted in unfortunate fact. The preferential hiring of Jews in higher income job positions, the tribal xenophobia, the racial supremacy behind closed doors, these are all truly facts. America First is full of mixed race delusional zoomers and brain dead right wingers, you can observe them to realize this.
 
He was funny in the beginning

 
First time I ever saw Nick was the infamous 'you can't bake that many cookies' clip, and then had some friends a few years back posting about Catboy Kami and GypsyCrusader; followed the breadcrumbs and found the Nick thread. One of said friends is now an avid consoomer of the cult of Nick, attended the last AFPAC, and despises the Farms. I mostly tune in to the subforum when it's Nick getting shit on or collaborating with the Gunt.
 
How could you not care about this group of winners?

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I never gave him much attention for years, even though I became aware of him during the Warski knife waving incident. The problem is, I need someone to be an interesting person for me to follow them. He talks politics and what else? He was living in his mother's basement eating tendies. That's boring as fuck. Even someone like StixHexenHammer666 is more interesting, he actually does weird gardening and MRE videos occasionally.

Personally, I put his high-water mark at when the Groypers were trolling Charlie Kirk. But then he immediately imploded with the Lolisocks homo date. That was what caught my attention. A fag who is pushing right-wing "trad" talking points but also is obviously a homo and a tranny chaser? You have my attention. :popcorn:
 
You got retards, politispergs, faggots, catboys, incels, and NEEts, all wrapped up in a nice little package. What's not to like?

I missed the Sargon implosion and am ecstatic to watch/participate in this new and more extreme sequel
Agreed. It's nice to be able to watch the madness unfold in real-time.
 
I’m fascinated by the dissident right, particularly those that rely heavily on antisemitic tropes. It goes back to the time I was in a graduate program in the humanities (I switched to medicine later) and I had a paper published concerning historical revisionism that overlapped with what I would characterize as a conspiracy theory predicated on antisemitism. The journal is probably best described as “mid-tier” in that it practiced the usual professional standards of editorial refereeing (i.e. peer review), but didn’t exert much in the way of influence. This is another way of saying that it gave you a nice bullet to put on your C.V. early in your career, but it isn’t really going to go far in establishing a solid reputation.

One day I go to check my email and I discover a handful of messages from complete strangers going apeshit on me for what I wrote in the aforementioned article. Much to my surprise, my article was discovered by a small community of white nationalists on one of those oldschool ezboard forums and they had gone through every line I had written and annotated it with this running commentary that I found absolutely hilarious: “here the pathology of the Jew-lover is made manifest” and “zionism has clearly emasculated the author” are a couple of comments that stick in my memory.

I decided to reply to the emails and it wasn’t long before I was having a pretty good conversation with a couple of the forum’s participants who had gone out of their way to contact me. It turned out that these guys really wanted to have meaningful conversations about the topic of my article, but didn’t really have any outlet to do so. The more I got to know them, it became apparent to me just how lonely and starved for conversation they actually were.

In the world of higher education my politics are considered conservative and I see myself as being part of a conservative intellectual tradition. In that context, I’m a bit of an outlier and was usually the token “conservative” in various reading groups and seminars and it was there I started to explore how one should engage the far right. Most of my peers and mentors usually adopted a stance that the kind of people who deny the Holocaust or take ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ seriously should be marginalized by means of social exclusion.

This more or less kickstarts a sort of anthropological interest that would eventually lead me to observe groups like America First. I’m not convinced one should adopt an aggressive policy of exclusion because it doesn’t really address the problem of why people come to adopt these views in the first place or even provide a reasonable path for the same people to abandon said views.

There is this unspoken assumption in progressive politics that a person's beliefs reflects a moral quality about that person; so someone with an honest belief that Jews are trying to dismantle the white race through miscegenation is immoral by virtue of just having that belief and should therefore be subject to social exclusion. I don’t share that assumption and have slowly come to the realization that it actually encourages people with such beliefs to dig their heels in and keep them.

When I watch these types of communities, I typically come away with a greater insight on how these worldviews function epistemically and what sort of needs are being met. When I have personal encounters with people who hold to these kinds of ideas, I like to think I can engage them better on an interpersonal level and get them off script so they can gain some perspective.

Do you want to know how to engage with anyone you disagree with? The answer is through intellectual humility. It's not enough to pat yourself on the back for pinching your nose and poking them from far away with a long stick rather than outright calling for their extermination. It's important to go into any engagement with the assumption that, at any point, the other person might just be seeing something that you failed to. That you aren't Prometheus coming down from Mount Olympus to bring the poor mortals fire.
 
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I was a fan of the Killstream back when it was in its glory days on YouTube and Stream.me. Nick’s name and the Groypers came up now and then but it was never anything meaningful. I honestly thought Nick and the other gay conservative with the big-titty sister were the same guy.

After stream.me fell apart life got busy and I lost track of everyone I used to watch. So here I am checking in on Ralph only to find that he’s become “the gunt” and has paired himself up with this wignat Mexican. It’s weird to see how everything went to shit for these people, but as usual the trash fire is fun to watch.
 
When I first became aware of Nick he was annoying and overconfident. I paid him no mind because his politics didn't speak to me. Time passed and a few of the early era groypers showed up to some semi-public group events I was involved in and hijacked the discussions with their dumb ass political opinions, even though the events had nothing to do with politics and it just ruined things. I went back in to take another look at Nick and this was right after the catboy Kami date and knew it was just a matter of time until this self destructed. As it became more and more clear the end was approaching I started paying more attention knowing it would be a shit show and boy did it ever deliver.
 
I think he is controlled opposition and his "advice" to young impressionable white men is the exact opposite of what they ought to be doing like not lifting weights, embracing incel ideology ect.. I am glad he is getting exposed for spic faggot that he is because he has been a cancer to the dissident right for years now.
 
I love political extremists. I love dumpster fires. I love infighting. Whatever my views or actual opinions are don't matter if it's fucking funny.
 
It showcases this legitimate anti-intellectualism in zoomers (that exists way beyond AF).

As a zoomer I think this is due to the growing up of social media and how the average person was obsessed with social media at a young age, 5th grade if i remember right with instagram when it started. I saw how this branched out as people got older and particuarly with females when tumblr was still a thing everysingle girl i knew in elementary school was on tumblr looking at porn and at political things. Its weird to think that kids now are a mix of being in politics but not really
 
A very sad conclusion to a movement that could've done some good. Maybe. Possibly.

As an aside, downfalls like this are why the CPC went to a consensus model after Mao. It worked for the longest time, and built up the country into the menace it is today. Never put all your hopes on one leader, always rule by group consensus.
 
Unironically Ralph. I was in the same boat as Josh in that I was under the impression that this was a cringy (by virtue of the catbois and Baked) but otherwise somewhat put together organization until the ragepig got pulled in and shined a light about what was going on to people like me who otherwise couldn’t be bothered to pay attention.
 
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