When will anime become Politically Correct?

[janedoe]

i remember when the hunter x hunter remake came out everyone wanted yu yu hakusho to get one. it bothered me to think of a new audience being introduced to that series, because of subjects like that tranny demon miyuki or sensui and shit. togashi really loves his faggots in manga.

also the english dub of yu yu hakusho was hilarious and you'd never be able to get away with the miyuki groping scene these days.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

In a loose sense of the word, Anime is already politically correct and always has been.
There's this extremely stupid idea among perma-online weeb right-wingers that Japan is le based anti-SJW facts over feelings country.
That's far from the truth.

Cancel Culture exist in Japan, but has a different political alignment. Try mentioning any of Japan's war crimes against Manchuria, Korea or the Han Chinese and you will lose your employment, your house, and potentially your life. Try to say that the nuking of Japan was a good strategic decision and the same will happen to you.
And if such weeb right-winger mongoloids weren't so fucking ignorant they would realize that censorship runs rampant in Anime. Since ancient times, Japan has no problems towards homos and lesbos, homosexual and lesbic relationships are often censored when anime is dubbed and adapted for Western and muslim countries, as Judeochristian and islamic cultures see homosexuality as a terrible abomination while Far-Easterns not so much, Sailor Moon is an excellent example of this.

Well yes, but censoring of all that is based.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Cancel Culture exist in Japan, but has a different political alignment. Try mentioning any of Japan's war crimes against Manchuria, Korea or the Han Chinese and you will lose your employment, your house, and potentially your life. Try to say that the nuking of Japan was a good strategic decision and the same will happen to you.

I don't get it. Do you mean it's like Germany and the holocaust where if you say that it didn't happen you get exiled from pubic life? or is japan trying to bury its history of horrific war crimes so they can maintain a strong national identity with no shame

 

[Schway]

Would have been nice for you to cite sources for the University.

https://ug-schedules.tuj.ac.jp/ug/academics/semester-info/schedule/fall2019

 

[InsolentGaylord]

https://ug-schedules.tuj.ac.jp/ug/academics/semester-info/schedule/fall2019

I could find "The History & Significance of Race in America".

Is this another case of cherry picking and making a bigger deal out of it than necessarily? What one exactly?

 

[Solana]

As long as they don't touch anything made before 2010 I couldn't care. More of a retro anime enthusiast. Still sad to see the state of the western anime community though!

 

[Schway]

Unless we get another really bad monsoon season that levels Three Gorges Dam, China's going to be the big one. @Schway does bring up good points about Western expats trying to bring Woke Leftism into Japan via the universities and how it could be an issue, but "Japan will never go woke" isn't quite a cope since Japan is notoriously xenophobic as well as conservative.

Western SJW's and their attempts to convert Japanese youths are like an ill-tempered bluegill compared to the Rage-infected Megalodon with a frickin' BFG 9000 on its head that is China and the CCP's brand of leftism.

I understand where you're coming from, but in my experience this view of japan is not exactly correct. Japan's "xenophobia" and "conservatism" is trumpeted not because it's such a big deal, but because it's present in ever so slight a degree compared to the largely anti-conservative and xenophilic west, especially in the younger generation. Look at the BLM protests in Tokyo, I'm not saying that those people doing them are representative of japan's youth, but that japans youth doesn't give a shit about them doing it.
They have the same attitude a lot of people in the west have "Well, I guess it's a good cause, they're not hurting anyone. Maybe it's kinda weird but who cares"

If they were truly so xenophobic and conservative do you really think a BLM protest would happen like this? It's a protest about a different race of people, living in a foreign country driven mostly by foreigners and people with a foreign mentality, if there was any event that you'd expect a xenophobe and conservative to oppose and make a stink about it'd be this one. How would this protest have happened in China? Take the Chinese government out of the equation , do you think the Chinese people would have been as passive and accepting of such a protest?

Here's a screenshot from that movie I mentioned, it's a rap at the end:


The average adult in japan is only "conservative" because he hasn't been told how his opinions are racist and sexist by lunatics yet. Once he is he will just go with it.

Go back some decades and tell your average american that this country which is built on "pick yourself up by your bootstraps", "liberty", "freedom of speech", "capitalism" and the american way is gonna become a self-hating mess filled with people preaching marxism, equity, people watching every word they say lest they be destroyed ect.

These things always seem impossible until they are inevitable.

I could find "The History & Significance of Race in America".

Is this another case of cherry picking and making a bigger deal out of it than necessarily? What one exactly?

Here's the ones I listed

African Americans, Equality and the Law: Weapon or Tool?",
"Politics of Identity in America "
"Special Topics in Asian Studies I: Social Inequality in Asia"
"Japan in a Changing World Order S"

There are more i didn't list:

Ideology and Social Change in Japan
Writing Seminar in Asian Studies: The Japanese Occupation of Southeast Asia
Writing Seminar in Asian Studies: Immigration and Integration Issues in East and Southeast Asia
Representing Race
Dissent in America
Ethical Issues in Journalism
Journalism and Globalization
Topics in Psychology: Prejudice and Discrimination in Japan
Topics in Psychology: Intercultural Marriage

Thanks for assuming the worst instead of using CTRL+F on the list I gave you. You're really in a position of accusing someone else of being dishonest.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

I understand where you're coming from, but in my experience this view of japan is not exactly correct. Japan's "xenophobia" and "conservatism" is trumpeted not because it's such a big deal, but because it's present in ever so slight a degree compared to the largely anti-conservative and xenophilic west, especially in the younger generation. Look at the BLM protests in Tokyo, I'm not saying that those people doing them are representative of japan's youth, but that japans youth doesn't give a shit about them doing it.
They have the same attitude a lot of people in the west have "Well, I guess it's a good cause, they're not hurting anyone. Maybe it's kinda weird but who cares"

If they were truly so xenophobic and conservative do you really think a BLM protest would happen like this? It's a protest about a different race of people, living in a foreign country driven mostly by foreigners and people with a foreign mentality, if there was any event that you'd expect a xenophobe and conservative to oppose and make a stink about it'd be this one. How would this protest have happened in China? Take the Chinese government out of the equation , do you think the Chinese people would have been as passive and accepting of such a protest?

Here's a screenshot from that movie I mentioned, it's a rap at the end:

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The average adult in japan is only "conservative" because he hasn't been told how his opinions are racist and sexist by lunatics yet. Once he is he will just go with it.

Go back some decades and tell your average american that this country which is built on "pick yourself up by your bootstraps", "liberty", "freedom of speech", "capitalism" and the american way is gonna become a self-hating mess filled with people preaching marxism, equity, people watching every word they say lest they be destroyed ect.

These things always seem impossible until they are inevitable.

Here's the ones I listed


There are more i didn't list:



Thanks for assuming the worst instead of using CTRL+F on the list I gave you. You're really in a position of accusing someone else of being dishonest.

Your attitude is giving me a concern troll or paranoid nut vibe.
But from reading the titles, those don't necessarily mean they are what you think they are. And how major do you think those kinda lessons are? Were they doing stuff like that decades ago?

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

If there is going to be any censorship, it will be on China - one of the most important markets for anime. Laws there PROHIBIT depicting on TV/streaming anything sexual (big tits, nudity etc.), homosexuality, 'superstition', gore, anti-government themes (terrorism etc.).

Doesn't help that outside of some titles Funimation's directly co-produced with the Japanese like Fire Force's adaptation, China's the one doing co-productions and helping bring some anime into production.

I'm actually amazed they haven't tightened the leash yet, if I'm being honest.

 

[Schway]

But from reading the titles, those don't necessarily mean they are what you think they are. And how major do you think those kinda lessons are? Were they doing stuff like that decades ago?

It's not happening -> It doesn't matter if it's happening --[you are here ]-> It was always happening -> it's a good thing it's happening

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...reads-tokyo-2000-people-march-protest-racism/

Black Lives Matter Tokyo was founded June 1 by a half-dozen youths — most of whom, including Todd, are students at Temple University in Tokyo

Yeah, completely innocent stuff I'm sure.

Your attitude is giving me a concern troll or paranoid nut vibe.

Considering you have a hard time looking through an ordered list I'm sure you thought your dad was a conspiracy theorist when he told you mud wasn't food.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

It's not happening -> It doesn't matter if it's happening --[you are here ]-> It was always happening -> it's a good thing it's happening

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...reads-tokyo-2000-people-march-protest-racism/

Yeah, completely innocent stuff I'm sure.



Considering you have a hard time looking through an ordered list I'm sure you thought your dad was a conspiracy theorist when he told you mud wasn't food.

Ah shoving words/strawmanning down my throat. Gotcha. The issue is some of the names of those lessons could apply to anything and not necessarily far left western garbage. But I think one or two at least probably do.

The link you posted is also a good start. Still the numbers are low, and judging from the pics, many seem to be Expats with a few Japanese students. I did hear about these btw and heard they disappeared quite quickly too.

"Considering you have a hard time looking through an ordered list I'm sure you thought your dad was a conspiracy theorist when he told you mud wasn't food."

Lol man, you do realise that list is LOOOOOOOOOONG right? And I did look through the list, many of the names felt vague to the point I couldn't be sure if they were western left wing garbage (as I said) or were more innocuous.

Next you are gonna just continue to insult me for being stupid even though I am actually almost meeting you half way here.

 

[special need's H20]

give it 3-5 years. The seed is already sown

 

[L50LasPak]

It's not happening -> It doesn't matter if it's happening --[you are here ]-> It was always happening -> it's a good thing it's happening

That's a vast oversimplification of how radical social justice bullshit rose to prominence in western countries. I can't speak with as much authority about Europe, but America in particular has always had a long history of populism. Along with that, certain vested interests have always used the idea of oppressed minorities as tool for applying political pressure to force both local and state governments to bend to their will.

There's nothing all that calculated about the rise of social justice or the new left beyond some of their marketing. The basis for this movement has been sown over a period of decades starting with the 1960s counterculture movements. There were various attempts by different factions to push those movements in different directions, but usually they would end up getting co-opted by corporations in the end, much the way we've seen woke stuff taken up by massive corporations in this day and age (tech giants). You can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't see Japan having apocalyptic race riots every 20 years or having people talk about leading a communist overthrow of the country every 10.

Japan's culture is different, which I think is just one barrier to entry, but it is a barrier all the same. But there are others. I don't think a country so rigidly organized is fertile ground for the kind of populist movements we're seeing. Japan's culture has its own inherent flaws that could potentially be exploited by infiltrators, and the intelligentsia will no doubt import some foreign ideas in an attempt to seem sophisticated, but I don't see it gaining the same sort of traction it has over here. Propping up social justice in the US and Europe has been playing on easy mode so far. I will admit that if I had to pick any Asian country likely to fall to a new left Japan would be it, but that's still gonna be an uphill battle for a movement that isn't very organized or intelligent in the first place.

 

[I Love Beef]

As I've seen through the past year, I hypothesize that anime will only get woke and broke due to corporate direction, and even then I doubt that will happen on a large scale, be it in public sentiment or popular opinion. The other elephant in the room is that anime fans out west are, well, majorly white, and despite the double edged sword of Anime Must Be Japanese Purism cuts deeply back down on the wielder, it's still a double edged sword. If anime becomes SJW'd to shit, I guarantee that the black and colored anime fan community, let alone anyone with a brain, will raise shit over why anime isn't about integrity through martial discipline and attaining great powers to fight evil and instead about how important it is that packing fudge should be everything that is your personality if you are gay and that you should obey your white masters I mean always listen to self important karen ass WASP women who moral outrage at everything to fill that rotten hole created by their own spoiled upbringing.

Anime SJWs still and will always retain their elitist fatheaded entitled consuumer myopia out west, and it will always trip them up because they have no respect or heart for the integral themes and literary elements that comprise anime. If they bite the hand that feeds them, it will be their own. We may be seeing this in video games as character designs have been regulated by the CERO to not expose ass and open camel toe, but that is more rooted in how Japan is trying to fight off a downsizing population than Goober Gate.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Ah shoving words/strawmanning down my throat. Gotcha. The issue is some of the names of those lessons could apply to anything and not necessarily far left western garbage. But I think one or two at least probably do.

The link you posted is also a good start. Still the numbers are low, and judging from the pics, many seem to be Expats with a few Japanese students. I did hear about these btw and heard they disappeared quite quickly too.

"Considering you have a hard time looking through an ordered list I'm sure you thought your dad was a conspiracy theorist when he told you mud wasn't food."

Lol man, you do realise that list is LOOOOOOOOOONG right? And I did look through the list, many of the names felt vague to the point I couldn't be sure if they were western left wing garbage (as I said) or were more innocuous.

Next you are gonna just continue to insult me for being stupid even though I am actually almost meeting you half way here.

There's another reason why Japan would be a lot harder to succumb to Western-style Woke Leftism and that's the issue of Christianity.

Japan is a fairly secular society but unlike Europe or North America, Christianity never really took root there outside of a few fringe minority communities. The Woke Left helped get a lot of traction thanks to the wider public turning against the austere moralism of Christian conservatism.

In Europe, this happened a lot earlier and has precedents with the French Revolution and Napoleon while World War I and the Bolshevik Revolution more or less blackpilled the Europeans and ultimately led to the demise of a Christian-centered Europe and World War II accelerated that process.

In America, it mainly emerged as a Millennial backlash against the Religious Right that was dominant in the 1980's and 1990's and still a major force in American politics into the 2000's. While the New Left was also a fiercely anti-Christian movement in many respects, it was crushed and the Boomers as a whole tended to either become corporate neoliberals (Yippie to Yuppie) or they were conservative and that led to the rise of the Religious Right and the corporate neoconservatives.

The Woke Left of the Millennials and Early Zoomers is firmly rooted in the New Atheism movement and the compromised nature of higher academia, where the remnants of the New Left still managed to survive as the rest of the New Left either died out or sold out by the time Clinton was elected in 1992, if not earlier.

It's possible the Woke Left could gain traction in Japan, but the historical and cultural differences make it a lot more difficult for it to gain traction in the same way it did in the West. If anything, I could see China as the one who'd try to take Woke Leftism and reformulate it to take down Japan economically with any SJW expats being an auxilary element at best.

 

[Ita Mori]

It'll happen when Japan lets the US into their business wholesale.
Today there's still a broad line between them (i.e Sony/Nintendo/ of Japan being separate but in control over Sony/Nintendo of America), but the moment they assimilate the US is the minute the plague is there forever.

I've said this before, but the only way Japan keeps it's anime is if it cuts the middleman and just pays independent VAs to dub their shows and streams it themselves on their networks instead of relying on funimation or 4Kids.

And if such weeb right-winger mongoloids weren't so fucking ignorant they would realize that censorship runs rampant in Anime. Since ancient times, Japan has no problems towards homos and lesbos, homosexual and lesbic relationships are often censored when anime is dubbed and adapted for Western and muslim countries, as Judeochristian and islamic cultures see homosexuality as a terrible abomination while Far-Easterns not so much, Sailor Moon is an excellent example of this.

Not entirely true. Latin/South America & France didn't censor anime the way the US & Canada do until the fuckers got a hold of the Western market so strongly that other countries had no choice but to air the sanitized versions if they wanted to get the series at all.
DBZ and Sailor Moon were dubbed as close to the original script as possible and retain all occult imagery and suggestive/vulgar scenes, as well as use the original score & soundtrack instead of whatever shit Canadian dub houses used.
The examples that come closest to mind is Bulma flipping off Emperor Pilaf and calling him an asshole & Sailor Uranus and Neptune's relationship in Dragon Ball/Sailor Moon respectively.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

it probably already is politically correct, depends on what constitutes political correctness. For the japanese which might not be the same for americans.

As far as it going full on "american brand" sjw, i hope not anytime soon and it would probably be a bad move finantially, the asian market for anime is way bigger than the united states and the sjw woke crap might go the same way of the harlem shake any moment, not even most anime fans in the west like that shit except a kool aid drinking loud and vocal minority, a lot of anime fans are actively running away from american media and going into anime for that very reason.

If some burguer companies want to waste their money doing crap like Neo Yokio then i guess japanese studios will oblige, take the money and deliver their aninigger memenime since its not their loss but i´d hardly see it affecting the japanese home industry or the asian market for it when actual profit margins are on the line for japanese financeers.

Not like anime is about praising racism and homophobia, anime is kinda whitewashed already and sterile cuteness abounds, its mostly about it not jumping through extra unnecesary hoops to pander like american media does. The USA already censors its anime anyways and has done so for decades and as far as "muh representation" goes, theres already niche genres in anime for that even when its not doing it like think tank academics think is the right post-deconstructivist way of representing faggots, dykes, the mentally ill and troons

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Anime is a huge industry in japan and a good export of their culture, it will definitely be one of the first places they'll get at. There was already a surprisingly woke anime movie, called something like Japan underwater 2020 or something. If you want to see how it will happen just look at what happened to comics/games/movies and imagine it faster and quieter. As for how soon? Until they get as bad as the western industry is? 15-20 years maybe, not sure.

That anime movie was produced by Netflix, which is exactly how they will poz anime since Netflix has a huge stake in the industry and influence on what gets made and how.

I wouldn't be surprised if you have the anime industry segment into two parts, one the more woke part aimed at export to the west and the other being the more conservative and traditional part aimed at export to China (which will of course have no fanservice and be totally in line with what the CCP approves of).

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

You're all misguided in directing your attention at the possible influence of US consumers on the future of anime, when China HAS ALREADY MANAGED TO GET AT LEAST ONE SHOW CANCELLED:

[New Life+] Young Again in Another World Anime Cancelled​

This comes after discovery that light novel author, MINE, had posted racist and discriminatory comments toward China and South Korea via his Twitter account. This has also brought attention to some allegedly discriminatory content within the [New Life+] light novels themselves. This includes the backstory for the main character, who allegedly killed more than 3,000 people with a Japanese sword in the Second Sino-Japanese war, which was a conflict between China and Japan that ultimately became part of World War II.

On Tuesday MINE apologised for his comments on Twitter and announced plans to remove the [New Life+] series from Japanese novel sharing website “Shōsetsuka ni Narō.”, as well as talking to Japanese publisher of the series, Hobby Japan, about correcting the relevant volumes that are in print. He also plans on removing his Twitter account once the apology has spread.

It was after this apology that the four main voice cast members for the planned [New Life+] anime adaption announced their resignation from the project, and after an apology published by Hobby Japan it was announced that the anime project had been cancelled. Alongside news of the anime cancellation, Hobby Japan have also cancelled all shipments of the light novels to Japanese retailers. There is currently no word on if the light novel series will continue or be outright cancelled too.

 

[Dom Cruise]

In a loose sense of the word, Anime is already politically correct and always has been.
There's this extremely stupid idea among perma-online weeb right-wingers that Japan is le based anti-SJW facts over feelings country.
That's far from the truth.

Cancel Culture exist in Japan, but has a different political alignment. Try mentioning any of Japan's war crimes against Manchuria, Korea or the Han Chinese and you will lose your employment, your house, and potentially your life. Try to say that the nuking of Japan was a good strategic decision and the same will happen to you.
And if such weeb right-winger mongoloids weren't so fucking ignorant they would realize that censorship runs rampant in Anime. Since ancient times, Japan has no problems towards homos and lesbos, homosexual and lesbic relationships are often censored when anime is dubbed and adapted for Western and muslim countries, as Judeochristian and islamic cultures see homosexuality as a terrible abomination while Far-Easterns not so much, Sailor Moon is an excellent example of this.

Japan is weirdly hypocritical at times in a way I don't understand, like pixelating genitals in otherwise ultra pervy porn and not allowing topless nudity in CERO rated games despite the countless hentai games.

As long as they don't touch anything made before 2010 I couldn't care. More of a retro anime enthusiast. Still sad to see the state of the western anime community though!

By this point anime is mostly a nostalgia thing for me as well, I've only seen a few series post 2010.