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[XYZpdq Jr.]

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this comes up in scifi too
back in the day Trek was people behind and in front of the cameras who served in WWII, hell, Scotty was literally missing a finger because Jimmy D was part of the D-Day Crew that wasn't on Omaha, he was on the less-famous beach
but then you get a generation where most everybody was in a branch of service to a generation or few where they might dick around near a spot that hears a gunshot twice a year, then you get the generations who have only watched tv

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

It's all from one show, The Owl House.

I thought one might be from Amphibia.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

It's all from one show, The Owl House.

Eugh, it just HAD to be from Dana Terrace's shitheap, didn't it? Only worse if it included Rebecca Sugar's Steven Universe.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I thought one might be from Amphibia.

Surpringly amphibia mostly kept the three lead girls as just friends although apparently much like amity blythe, Sasha waybright and Marci were the mean girls who dared Anne to steal from the thrift shop that got her sent to amphibias world in the first place.

There's like ONE acknowledgement of Disney's dei for gay representation in the final 5 minutes of the show. Sasha (as an adult at least) has a small bi flag on her car as a bumper sticker If I remember right.


I mean it's there when it really didn't need to be but it is a LOT more restrained than owl house. Which had their little tar baby witch boy jumping around waving rainbow flags when Luz "came out" to her mom, and said mom wore an "ally" pin on her shirt for the final season.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

https://archive.ph/sToM5

We lost a real one today. RIP

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Surpringly amphibia mostly kept the three lead girls as just friends although apparently much like amity blythe, Sasha waybright and Marci were the mean girls who dared Anne to steal from the thrift shop that got her sent to amphibias world in the first place.

There's like ONE acknowledgement of Disney's dei for gay representation in the final 5 minutes of the show. Sasha (as an adult at least) has a small bi flag on her car as a bumper sticker If I remember right.

There were also, like, two lady newts who hooked up at the end after barely getting any screentime together.

I mean it's there when it really didn't need to be but it is a LOT more restrained than owl house. Which had their little tar baby witch boy jumping around waving rainbow flags when Luz "came out" to her mom, and said mom wore an "ally" pin on her shirt for the final season.

I liked The Owl House, but even I felt like that was a bit much.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

i don't care if it's confusing or not but i will say that as a kid i did not give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuck about mordecai or finn's relationship issues in regular show and adventure time.

I'm reminded how much Regular Show and Adventure Time devolved into relationship drama as those shows went on. It was trite melodrama designed to appeal to the Tumblr crowd. No casual Cartoon Network viewer cared when Marceline sang about Princess Bubblegum because the two characters had zero history before that interaction, and there really wasn't a reason to care what a shady vampire thinks of a monarch. This is a magical, post-apocalyptic fantasy world where anything can happen. Why waste the audience's time on something so mundane?

 

[A Grey Cat]

I'm reminded how much Regular Show and Adventure Time devolved into relationship drama as those shows went on. It was trite melodrama designed to appeal to the Tumblr crowd. No casual Cartoon Network viewer cared when Marceline sang about Princess Bubblegum because the two characters had zero history before that interaction, and there really wasn't a reason to care what a shady vampire thinks of a monarch. This is a magical, post-apocalyptic fantasy world where anything can happen. Why waste the audience's time on something so mundane?

A simple answer is this...by that point the creators of those shows had become just as bad as the demographic they attracted instead of the one those shows were made for.

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

There's like ONE acknowledgement of Disney's dei for gay representation in the final 5 minutes of the show.

The thing Amphibia did that made me genuinely uncomfortable was the Christmas episode. Phillipinos are proudly Catholic and the episode is 22 minutes of Anne being repeatedly asked what Christmas is about and refusing to give an answer.

... okay I just checked and learned she's supposed to be Thai.

 

[Trilby]

The thing Amphibia did that made me genuinely uncomfortable was the Christmas episode. Phillipinos are proudly Catholic and the episode is 22 minutes of Anne being repeatedly asked what Christmas is about and refusing to give an answer.

... okay I just checked and learned she's supposed to be Thai.

Whatever the case, sad they wouldn't go there. Johnny Bravo did.

 

[Yeshuash]

The thing Amphibia did that made me genuinely uncomfortable was the Christmas episode. Phillipinos are proudly Catholic and the episode is 22 minutes of Anne being repeatedly asked what Christmas is about and refusing to give an answer.

... okay I just checked and learned she's supposed to be Thai.

Ethnically Thai but raised in California.

Also, modern Disney will never dear to mention Jesus in Christmas specials. It all has to be secular. They will go all out whenever Hannukah is mentioned though.

 

[Trilby]

Ethnically Thai but raised in California.

Also, modern Disney will never dear to mention Jesus in Christmas specials. It all has to be secular. They will go all out whenever Hannukah is mentioned though.

Not the Disney that gave us this 48 years ago.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Also, modern Disney will never dear to mention Jesus in Christmas specials. It all has to be secular.

I think the only Christmas special I watched growing up that actually referenced Jesus was Arthur's Perfect Christmas. Even then, it was only in passing.

 

[Chromeo]

Also, modern Disney will never dear to mention Jesus in Christmas specials. It all has to be secular. They will go all out whenever Hannukah is mentioned though.

Hell, I remember Rugrats having a Hanukkah special that went really into the story of the menorah burning for 7 days. Maybe it's like Veggietales, everyone sticks to the old testament because they don't want to misportray Jesus?
Not to mention there's already a "market-approved" Christmas aesthetic for cartoons. You can risk offending half the world by portraying their lord and savior's birth, OR, you can stick a pine tree and string lights in the background and call it a day.
I do vaguely remember the Ed, Edd, n Eddy Christmas episode had a kind of nativity theme to it, though, even if it didn't mention the lord Himself. Throughout all the holiday mischief, Double Dee ended up as an angel in a tree, Eddy was stuck in a crib, and the Kanker sisters had paper crowns from party poppers and brought the Eds gifts of mold, franks and cents, and fur.

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

You can risk offending half the world by portraying their lord and savior's birth, OR, you can stick a pine tree and string lights in the background and call it a day.

The secular use to have more tactful ways of going about it, and to this day most will still say Jesus 'was a good guy' and not even begrudge saying it. So it was a new low in animation in my eyes. I'm not expecting Linus to go on stage and recite Luke, although they were still playing Peanuts into the 2000s.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I think the only Christmas special I watched growing up that actually referenced Jesus was Arthur's Perfect Christmas. Even then, it was only in passing.

what the fuck mutant sewer upbringing did you have where you never saw the Charlie Brown special even

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

what the fuck mutant sewer upbringing did you have where you never saw the Charlie Brown special even

Besides that I mean.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Besides that I mean.

oh okay
yeah I'll have to keep an eye out this year for which ones get specific when I queue up a bunch of shit
iirc one of the Japanese super robot ones, like Exkaiser or J-Decker or somebody has your usual "oh no, the decepticons are stealing Christmas" and then the girl mentions "oh btw Jesus and stuff"
I think maybe Static Shock includes Christianity in Winter Holiday Season?
Christmas Is... did but that's hardly anything anybody gives a fuck about, that one's ghetto af below Small One

 

[Newcomer 42]

Also, modern Disney will never dear to mention Jesus in Christmas specials. It all has to be secular. They will go all out whenever Hannukah is mentioned though.

Christmas seems to be hated in leftist circles for a few years already, not sure if it changed.

 

[Purple fur Pomeranian]