Watermark Discussion. - NIGGER MARK N SHIEEET.

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What should we use.


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I would add the kiwifarms.net URL as an integral part of watermarks, advertise the site at the bare minimum. This doesn't exclude other words from appearing either.

This exactly.
Instead of putting nigger, why not just put the website URL? Instead of preventing people from using the footage at all, would it not be better to get the site name out there and expose the wholesome chungus 100 creators as users of the vile farms to the point that it becomes normalized and not so much of a scarlet letter?

Maybe I'm being naïve, but it seems like a better measure.

Wouldn't a kiwi watermark be enough? I know cucking people out of the content by using the niggermark is funny, but I think that a transparent Kiwi Farms logo would be enough for credit without gate keeping.
Edit: Maybe the Kiwi Farms logo and the username or URL?

an animated DVD logo bounce overlay with libavfilter and ffmpeg should be as effective and much more difficult to remove than any static watermark

this should be a pretty simple script but normies can't use command line or install ffmpeg

Exactly what I was thinking of. It would be an absolute nightmare to remove for anyone with any kind of tool.

Came to suggest this, that's what those Explore With Us homos do and it ruins all "their content". Smaller watermarks that say Nigger and then a larger bouncing one that's the KF logo. Maybe specialized smaller watermarks depending on the subject matter. (Like Tranny for clips about trannies, etc.)

I think just "Kiwi Farms" or "kiwifarms.whatever" is better than "nigger". If the goal is to get attribution rather than for people to not re-use the clips.
Website name I think some people will be willing to use it and that gives good PR, nigger means nobody touches it and some small bad PR.
Perhaps the only people this would attract are front-page Youtube viewers...

I think niggamark is way too extreme (but still funny). If we are going in this direction I think we should use kiwimark. I’m thinking either the url in the corner or the entire logo in the corner, like I’ve seen some people do in the past. That way if YouTubers use clips from here even if they blur it out we’d know they’d taken them from here.

Re: niggermark vs kiwifarms watermark,

As I understand it, the point of this is to stop react faggots from lazily turning kiwifarms threads into youtube videos wholesale and profiting off of what's documented here without attribution, correct?

While both a niggermark and a traditional watermark would combat this, they have very different outcomes.

A traditional watermark would force youtube react faggots to acknowledge the existence of kiwifarms and in doing so publicize it to their viewerbase, which accomplishes the goal of attribution but carries the risk of driving low quality goyslop consoomer traffic to the site. I don't want that.

A niggermark, on the other hand, disincentivizes faggot retard goyslop churning influencers from harvesting kiwifarms threads wholehog in the first place, dissuades them from making their gay little videos at all, preventing both their profiteering bullshit gay retard grift, but also not putting the site on blast for every gay little retard on youtube and instagram to come shit up.

Maybe Josh or someone else can weigh in on this but I don't see much good coming from a high-quantity influx of low-quality users. Most people don't belong here, least of all the type of bottomfeeders who watch moistcritical or wavywebsurf or whatever.

these two combined is a pretty good idea, but please make it say "KiwiFarms".
Or maybe just "KF", but it might be too obscure or too sanitized for normies to identify.

If the watermark directs people to the forum, we at least get some credit and public recognition
"NIGGER" is funny, but it doesn't help the forum in the long term at all.

if the clippers see a niggermarked clip with the "no no word" they wont even bother
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it they only see a "kiwifarms" watermark, since its not a nono word and advertisers wont get mad, they might bite the bullet and passively advertise the site.

As amusing as the funny haha nigger word is, I think forcing people to acknowledge kiwifarms is better.
Having the kiwifarms loggo plastered all over it with the website link would be great.

It's a double edged sword of course. If everything is kiwi logo'd, the site will indeed get an influx of future pink triangles, but still get recognition. It's either you go out all out or just plaster nigger on everything and get nothing. It also wouldn't help those that genuinely write decent articles about the farms or do credit the site. So honestly, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

a Kiwimark would be funny because it'd show the hypocrisy in anti-Farms people using the farms to cancel people, but the Niggermark is more powerful because it doesn't allow youtubers to monetize the Farms while avoiding mentioning it.

Using a transparent Kiwi Farms logo with the url beneath it bouncing across the screen would absolutely be the best option, nearly all clippers and lolcow channels always refuse to even recognize Kiwi Farms exists, much less admit they get the majority of their content directly from it or people on the site.
Having them pick between actually doing the legwork themselves (they will not) or stay lazy (they will) while automatically direct interested traffic here would be an absolute win.
 
ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -i TEST.png -filter_complex "[1:v]format=rgba[logo];[0:v][logo]overlay=x='abs(mod(t*300,2*(W-w))-(W-w))':y='abs(mod(t*300,2*(H-h))-(H-h))'" -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -preset veryfast -pix_fmt yuv420p output.mp4
Thank you so much for this. I've made two test videos to see how this would work with the nigger/kiwifarms gif at different resolutions, thoughts? (yes this can be sped up)




 
Thank you so much for this. I've made two test videos to see how this would work with the nigger/kiwifarms gif at different resolutions, thoughts? (yes this can be sped up)


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This is it, this is perfect. that is basically exactly what i had in mind when we were discussing it. This will ruin the grifting "her prostate" crowd of slop tubers. Suck a fat one nigger turkery tom Niggger kiwi tapes and Nigger smokey. you won't be making money off the backs of kiwichads. NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
 
Can you explain to me why you think advertising the site to the type of people who watch youtubers who say things like "her prostate" and "commit sewerslide" is a good thing?

This is not rhetorical or a dunk or anything, I want to know the reasoning.
Simply put, it is a numbers game, most of them will not bother coming here, but some will, those people drive traffic which is always positive.
Some of those people will only check one or two threads and never come back, some will regularly check a few threads and maybe even link those to friends who are interested in the same individual, and a very small number will even make accounts.

There is also the part where most people who follow lolcow content on places like youtube, instragram, tiktok, or others, do not even know the site exists or thinks it is a super secret darkweb site only accessible with the darkest and deadliest Internet magic, and getting the name out there is the only way to counter the ''tranny suicide swatting murder forum'' allegations.
Since when people who know the site and even visit a thread or two every now and then hears the name in the media it is much more likely they will think ''I never see that there'' or ''Last time I saw someone call for attacking someone they got banned''.
 
I would add the kiwifarms.net URL as an integral part of watermarks, advertise the site at the bare minimum. This doesn't exclude other words from appearing either.
I agree. If it's content related to a serious topic like let's say the Rekieta video, it's better to have the site's logo or url as an animated watermark. That way, the video can be shared online.
 
Continuing my pro-niggermark tirade, I think that videos that can't or won't discuss these topics properly do not deserve to exist. Self-censorship incentivized by profit is still censorship, if you're not willing to call a tranny a tranny, even as a quote/citation, or even say the word suicide you shouldn't be making a video that covers those topics. If a platform does not want that content to exist, that platform should not profit off of that content in a censored/doctored form. I would much rather the videos not be made at all than have kiwifarms properly attributed in a dogshit neutered video made by a faggot cuck who licks stinkditch for ad revenue

The reality is these videos would still exist and be made with or without the clips from the farms or otherwise, censored and uncensored. We can't force people to not create or consume slop, so might as well use it as an opportunity for the good of the site.

If someone uploads a video using a clip that says nigger, I know they're doing it for the love of the game.

Obviously, but that's a minority of cool people. The majority of clippers only care for ad money, and that's why they steal the content without crediting the site.
Niggermarking the clips would disincentivize them completely, while just "kf" watermarking wouldn't.

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I agree. If it's content related to a serious topic like let's say the Rekieta video, it's better to have the site's logo or url as an animated watermark. That way, the video can be shared online.
add a bouncing baldo with the kf logo
 
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For iOS users, you can instantly watermark videos using iOS Shortcuts + a-Shell Mini with ffmpeg

I accidentally made a tutorial for this in the Bossman Jack thread.

Here it is. It’s extremely fast and simple. Maybe I should just redo the post here. The default setting is for the bottom right corner but obviously this can be customized to be put anywhere on the video

 
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I think just "Kiwi Farms" or "kiwifarms.whatever" is better than "nigger". If the goal is to get attribution rather than for people to not re-use the clips.
Website name I think some people will be willing to use it and that gives good PR, nigger means nobody touches it and some small bad PR.
Perhaps the only people this would attract are front-page Youtube viewers...
It's about ethics in lolcows.
 
Can you explain to me why you think advertising the site to the type of people who watch youtubers who say things like "her prostate" and "commit sewerslide" is a good thing?

This is not rhetorical or a dunk or anything, I want to know the reasoning.
I don't think it's about advertising, it's more about the users of the Farms who put in the time and effort to monitor cows and clip things getting their collective credit, alongside Josh for all his work and personal effort in keeping the Farms afloat and the jannies as well who do it for free. Versus how it works now where some sloptuber nigger faggot just steals clips and content and analysis from this website and passes it off as his own and his normie audience being none the wiser. Forcing these people who profit off the work of Farmers to either be associated with the site by having to use watermarked content, or having content barred from them entirely due to niggermarking is more the goal.
 
Related idea:

Guests can only access the watermarked videos
Private the non-watermarked original videos so only registered users can see them

Could be used with any relevant forum rules since users must agree to register
 
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Thanks to @Probably An Autist bat file for drag and drop and @slungus22 getting the dvd bouncer effect in ffmpeg, I've made a zip file containing the bat for drag and drop for the kiwifarms/nigger bouncer with five different sizes. (280, 320, 540, 720, 1080 | SEE WHAT BEST WORKS FOR YOUR INPUT FOOTAGE).

explorer_odlgQB2lJi.webp

explorer_w7NwOO7hcv.webp

Code:
:: Thanks
:: @Richard_Wetpasta: White Kiwifarms/Nigger-blink gif.
:: @Probably An Autist: Creating the bat file this was based from.
:: @slungus22: ffmpeg command for DVD bouncer like effect for images.

@echo off

:: config
set NIGGER_SCALE=1080
set NIGGER_OPACITY=0.3

set NIGGER_SPEED_X=200
set NIGGER_SPEED_Y=200

set NIGGER_IMAGE="kf_brand/nigger_slow.gif"
set NIGGER_OUTPUT="%~1_niggermark_very_large.mp4"
:: config


pushd %~dp0
setlocal EnableExtensions DisableDelayedExpansion
if not exist "%~1" goto :EOF
for /F "delims=" %%I in ('ffprobe.exe -v error -show_entries format^=duration -of default^=noprint_wrappers^=1:nokey^=1 "%~1" 2^>^&1') do set "duration=%%I"

echo Niggermarking...
echo:
ffmpeg -hwaccel auto -i "%~1" -stream_loop -1 -i %NIGGER_IMAGE% -filter_complex "[1:v]format=rgba,colorchannelmixer=aa=%NIGGER_OPACITY%,scale=%NIGGER_SCALE%:-1[ov];[0:v][ov]overlay=x='abs(mod(t*%NIGGER_SPEED_X%,2*(W-w))-(W-w))':y='abs(mod(t*%NIGGER_SPEED_Y%,2*(H-h))-(H-h))'" -shortest -crf 22 -preset medium -c:a aac -strict experimental -movflags +faststart -threads 0 %NIGGER_OUTPUT%
endlocal
popd
echo:
echo Completed niggermarking. Output: '%~1_niggermark_large.mp4'.
exit
I have left config options at the top of the bat file if you need to change either scale, opacity, speed, the output name, the image name.
notepad++_jpLbWcdQ4q.webp

The bat files are all the same barring the size changes as I dunno how to do that as a changing variable. This is all just thrown together but enjoy I guess. :)

Thanks @Richard_Wetpasta for the kiwifarms/flashing nigger text gif.
 

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We should not watermark serious archives for serious topics. Otherwise, scumfucks will say it's edited/fake.
I think any content from the site should be watermarked. If it's that "serious", either content already exists outside the site, or it's highly requested and an even better way to spread word about the farms
 
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We should not watermark serious archives for serious topics. Otherwise, scumfucks will say it's edited/fake.
This is another concern I had with the watermarking, if it's too out there and undermines the believability of the clip this could be a common defense for cows. "It's from KiwiFarms, it's edited, it's fake, it's AI!" etc. (Moreso than usual of course, but having a heavily edited clip could lead credence to these defenses vs just seeing a raw clip in the wild)

Not an issue for common watermarking techniques like the DVD technique, but there were some other ones involving dithering and things that were a bit out there.
 
fwiw i had issues setting that to -1 which is why I have such a retarded work around.
I haven't had any issues with it so I dunno. You can always add the loop back in if it does start fucking up for you I guess.
 
Using a transparent Kiwi Farms logo with the url beneath it bouncing across the screen would absolutely be the best option, nearly all clippers and lolcow channels always refuse to even recognize Kiwi Farms exists, much less admit they get the majority of their content directly from it or people on the site.
Having them pick between actually doing the legwork themselves (they will not) or stay lazy (they will) while automatically direct interested traffic here would be an absolute win.
I think a lot of people in this thread are giving a lot of undue credit to clip channels and their audience.
I hope i’ll be proven wrong, but forcing them to acknowledge that they get their stuff from KF won’t magically change their perception of the site.
In the same breath the channels will label this as a “doxxing site” and the viewers will continue to view this place as some kind of LiveLeak-type site, and no one was jumping to save LiveLeak when it closed.
 
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