Warhammer 40k

[daniel day]

Admech as a rival for necrons makes perfect sense. Aledari are largely extinct for one reason or another and arent in the business of raiding tombworlds en mass anymore. Imagine being woken up by a jeet trying to run your pockets and tell me you'll give a shit about the german because you fought them 70 years ago.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

I believe the origins of the Ethereals keep changing. At first, it was implied to be a thing done by the Eldar. Later it was the Dark Eldar, and then I was told that one writer implied daemons were behind, somehow.

I remember the Xenology lore book from decades ago had a section on the Tau. One of the notes states there is a crystalline object embedded in the skulls of ethereals. The author notes similarities to an organ found in the Q'Orl, a powerful insectoid race with a hive mind that has a hate boner for the Eldar after they stole one of their queens. Big HMMMMMM.

Lore is OOOOLD like the book and a lot of it is up for debate but it's fun. Crystal mind control Tau is fun.

And I just found out my copy of the book is worth hundreds of dollars nowadays but this shit is priceless.

 

[Professor Donger]

So what would be some good ork units for dealing with knights? I'm assuming beast Snaggas

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

I remember the Xenology lore book from decades ago had a section on the Tau. One of the notes states there is a crystalline object embedded in the skulls of ethereals. The author notes similarities to an organ found in the Q'Orl, a powerful insectoid race with a hive mind that has a hate boner for the Eldar after they stole one of their queens. Big HMMMMMM.

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Lore is OOOOLD like the book and a lot of it is up for debate but it's fun. Crystal mind control Tau is fun.

And I just found out my copy of the book is worth hundreds of dollars nowadays but this shit is priceless.

The best answer is to the ethereal question is probably a combination of theories. Ethereals know that you can't mind control a galaxy spanning empire. There aren't enough of them, and they don't like sharing authority. Persuasion is their first tactic, then threats. As a last resort there likely is some sort of mind-control or pheromone that can force compliance. The problem is they still have to make sure the rest of the empire isn't aware that they can.

Farsight told the supreme ethereal to his face to go fuck himself. If Aun'va had the ability to force compliance he absolutely would of. It would have been obvious what he did, and it would have pissed off the rest of the ethereals who wouldn't appreciate him exposing their best kept secret. It's probably a trick they only use in times of crisis where there is no time for a big speech and they just need everyone to cooperate.

 

[Mr Clark]

It is worth noting a lot of the high technology in 30k is still producible in vast quantities by the admech but 10 millenia of straight up Neverending conflicts has led them to produce cheaper equipment to serve the calculus of war. Is this the correct path? (No, probably not as operation barbarossa and the special needs operation show) plenty of space marine chapters would love to still have a few stormbirds for their hardest drop zones i'm sure.

I could make weapon 1 that costs 100 resource to make, or i can make weapon 2 that costs 20 resource and is 50% as good as weapon 1

When the bickering, pettiness and stubbornness gets in the way of Imperium factions, they go with weapon 2 because they still come out ahead for the tithes and can keep weapon 1 for themself.

This is why if the Imperium were ever to 'win' 40k, they only need about 10 mins to get their shit together but the biggest enemy to the Imperium is the Imperium itself.

 

[Professor Donger]

This is why if the Imperium were ever to 'win' 40k, they only need about 10 mins to get their shit together but the biggest enemy to the Imperium is the Imperium itself.

The Imperium not conquering mars and forcing the tech priests to truly fold into the imperium properly is still one of those post Horus Heresy things that I will never understand. Like you said their worst enemy is themselves and the factions they've allowed pseudo independence

 

[God of Nothing]

The Imperium not conquering mars and forcing the tech priests to truly fold into the imperium properly is still one of those post Horus Heresy things that I will never understand. Like you said their worst enemy is themselves and the factions they've allowed pseudo independence

hey, if the inquisition still exists
imagine founding an organization that spends more time infighting and committing the exact crime they were supposed to root out

 

[Pedophobe]

Although to my knowledge only one of them has ever "fallen" in an obscure videogame.

You guys are still in denial about Farsight huh?

They could give a handful to the Imperial Guard.

I've always believed the Mechanicus is happy to ensure the "rest of" the Imperium has good enough tech to handle the xenos but nothing that could ever match them, even on paper. It's why the Knight Houses exist for example, they're a way for the AdMech to fulfil their obligations to arm humanity but without having to actually give away something useful like a Titan.

 

[Professor Donger]

Decided to just say fuck it and grab some stuff to finish off my Ork army. Pretty much went "this looks rad" and grabbed it

 

[iceteayo]

So more proof GW doesn't know or care about their own lore. Their justification for saying the Steel Legion wasn't in the Yarrick trailer was because huge majority of them had been wiped out. They represent a fraction of the fighting force yada yada.

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It's less that they don't know their own lore I guess and more that the Writers are still dog shit with numbers. Because assuming the Steel Legion had a fighting population of say a million men fighting on their home planet, which that still feels low mind you, they'd be fighting with a force of 450,000 men. That's still a shit ton of men.

France in WW1 had 2 million men on the Western front consistently throughout the war, so the Steel Legion, fighting on their home planet would have way more than just a million which is my lowbrow estimate. They'd probably have most of the planets population fighting, so why weren't they in the trailer James? It's almost as if you forgot about them and wanted to push more Cadians and Krieg.

who cares about the steel legion the fucking jopall indentured mentioned in a modern codex is kek

but its a classic case of lore guys not being the model guys not being the animation guys

 

[Mr Clark]

Decided to just say fuck it and grab some stuff to finish off my Ork army. Pretty much went "this looks rad" and grabbed it

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This is the way.

I take breaks from batch painting to paint models that look cool. Warp Spiders? Sure. Lucius? Love it. Next is Kroyle but thats also a bit of a challenge. Paint cool shit and eventually youll gave an army.

 

[DiabeticSydePhil]

I dunno what they had in 30k, but in 40k, despite the never-ending war, they still have stuff to arm their skitarii. But acting in a reasonable manner would oppose the grimderp of the setting.
Moreover, their super-tech was a retcon to maximalize the setting (once more). I recall the Ad-mech used to have "normal" weapons like higher quality lasguns and such, not multiple weapon types all unique for themselves, which fucked up things hard.

It's significantly easier to give skitarii better stuff than Guard because there's way, way less Skitarii. It's the same reason commissr/higher ranking Guard have bolt pistol or power swords but the standard infantry gets a combat knife or shovel. Not to mention your normal Guard trooper is so squishy that they're gonna lose/break their weapons every battle.

Not even considering a bunch of stuff like the in built skitarii weapons draw power from the their batteries or sync to hard wired aiming systems, the sheer scale of weaponry needed to support the Guard means they have to get the minimum viable product.

 

[Fortyone]

40k numbers are so funnily retarded that they should really just add a couple billion to each human statistic without any issue or just never mention it at all, iirc wasnt the entire krieg response on Vraks just barely over the number of contemporary US enlisted?

I love it how they make it sound like the tithes on hive worlds abduct a high number of people for the astra militarum but in reality it sounds like less than 0.1% actually get recruited if hive worlds have trillions or hundreds of billions on them. Also space marine legions should have been 1 million and chapters should be 10,000 if they're expected to ever get anything done on a planet wide front

 

[Rykel22]

40k numbers are so funnily retarded that they should really just add a couple billion to each human statistic without any issue or just never mention it at all, iirc wasnt the entire krieg response on Vraks just barely over the number of contemporary US enlisted?

You would think after all this time, they'd realize they need to take actual real world modern military numbers and multiply them by 100 or so.

 

[Bœuf Bourguignon]

If you've ever done anything IT related professionally, it seems like there's always something somewhere, that should have been replaced ages ago but wasn't because upper management refuses to allocate funds to replace it no matter how critical it is

You just need to look at any modern military. People would be surprised how many outrageously old and broken things are still used. Besides laziness and incompetence, there is also the cost factor involved.

Now scale that up for 40k, where trillions need to be armed but also constantly get evaporated and equipment is lost.

 

[Professor Donger]

You just need to look at any modern military. People would be surprised how many outrageously old and broken things are still used. Besides laziness and incompetence, there is also the cost factor involved.

Now scale that up for 40k, where trillions need to be armed but also constantly get evaporated and equipment is lost.

My buddy in the army complained about this constantly when he was deployed. He's a big gun guy and when he enlisted he made sure to say that he would like to be an armorer or quartermaster, since he likes to work on guns. The horror stories he has of some of the weapons he had to try and salvage. He made a lot of franken guns out of old parts because even if he ordered "new" parts the parts they'd send were just old parts from some surplus warehouse the army had on hand.

The military being cheap with equipment is one of the more realistic things about 40k ironically

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

New Dawn of War IV video just dropped.

 

[iceteayo]

Been MIA here for a bit but I did say finishing up 30k scars was a goal. I have plenty of jet bikes but these current additions was meant for a more Sagyar Mayzan army. The skull face paint and black helmets/terminators represent those who must die to regain honor.

 

[Dollar Store Crack Whore]

So what would be some good ork units for dealing with knights? I'm assuming beast Snaggas

Beast Snaggas are okay, my problem with any beast units is that it's tricky to incorporate them in normal lists.

Meganobz - 12 str dual killsaws with twin linked AP-3 will rip through big knights
Gaz - Literally wounds everything in the game on 2's
Breaka Boyz - Bunch of anti-monster/vehicle, very consistently strong against any armor
Tankbustas + SAG Mek - swingy, but can drop insane damage on knights when they pop (only would recommend with Dread Mob)
Gorkanaut/Morkanaut - ROBOT FIGHT! ROBOT FIGHT! ROBOT FIGHT!

 

[Professor Donger]

Beast Snaggas are okay, my problem with any beast units is that it's tricky to incorporate them in normal lists.

Meganobz - 12 str dual killsaws with twin linked AP-3 will rip through big knights
Gaz - Literally wounds everything in the game on 2's
Breaka Boyz - Bunch of anti-monster/vehicle, very consistently strong against any armor
Tankbustas + SAG Mek - swingy, but can drop insane damage on knights when they pop (only would recommend with Dread Mob)
Gorkanaut/Morkanaut - ROBOT FIGHT! ROBOT FIGHT! ROBOT FIGHT!

Yeah decided to do beast Snaggas but got a gorkanaut/Morknaut to act as a big target to stall and let them get in close and beat the thing to death.