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How is it playing with the clear acrylic terrain bases? I like that it's clear so you always see the mat you're playing on, but it looks like they are easy to slide around. If someone accidently bumps something I could see terrain or models shifting. Not to mention they must be fingerprint magnets after setting them up.
It was fine, we basically just kind of used the rule of "If you're on the clear base your in the terrain" even if there's no physical terrain on said base. The bases ironically didn't slide around that much, we had more problems with the actual terrain falling off it.
It was fine, we basically just kind of used the rule of "If you're on the clear base your in the terrain" even if there's no physical terrain on said base. The bases ironically didn't slide around that much, we had more problems with the actual terrain falling off it.
That is how terrain footprints are meant to work in 11th edition, which I'm actually surprised works so well. It makes things so much easier. Except for vehicles which sucks for T'au since nearly everything I use is also a vehicle. I've thought about getting a playmat that has deployment preprinted. There were ones for 10th edition I know they'll make ones for 11th. Would be nice if it just had a 1"x1" grid so it'd be easy to measure out not just deployment but terrain placement too without too much messing around.
There's real talent in how this series has started to make me feel a little genuinely uncomfortable. Even more so then the last two books. It's actually written to fit with canon. The only difference between this and regular 40k is the kids ignorance and optimism. They have no idea how close they are to just being dead or worse in every given situation. And it gets 10 times dicey when they walk onto a pirate/xenos asteroid of scum and villainy. Fun for the whole family. (It's also easier to hide dark shit from kids behind 40k terminology!)
So as It turns out, they had their bacon saved not by an inquisitor but a random Rogue trader. a chick named Harleen Amity
She's friendly, but also a little shady as shit. She has no apparent crew, no retinue, just a single servitor and nasty rumors. They had the balls to actually explain servitors properly too. At first Zelia is just like "its just a mindless clone" but later on she remembers a story of some kid getting turned into one for refusing to join the IG. "the emperor wouldn't permit that would he?" (some of this really hits)
Amity is nice enough to let the kids tag along as she undertakes a side quest at a nearby trading outpost. and also point out that they somehow managed to be transported ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GALAXY! ( so that's why Tau are on the cover) Amity knows someone who can decode POC mom's last known message to meet at the "Emperor's seat" so adventure awaits!
Yeah that's a 40k trading outpost alright.
I like how the kids feel genuinely uncomfortable when they walk into this place. Even liberal Zeila isn't taking it super well seeing Beast men, Ratlings, Tau, Kroot and all matter of things walking around in "harmony". Kids even get a bit disturbed by seeing clean and sleek Tau exo-suits move cargo.
Then Zelia gets her talking telescope stolen by a random Kroot. She's ok with giving it up.
But Talen say's fuck that and chases him down, almost getting his head caved in before a random imperial saves his ass.
Karter, Amity's contact. He knows what the emperor's seat is. He's also delightfully racist as shit (don't be friends with xeno's kids) and wont give up the intel unless the ape is sold to him. Naturally Zelia says no and ends up pissing off Amity. She tells them to stop being annoying twats and leaves them alone in the crowd as an intimidation tactic.
Talen then proceeds to lose his shit at Zelia in a glorious little scene. He's had enough of her take charge attitude.
(honestly she's not that bad, but dam if it isn't satisfying to read anyway.)
Then Talen openly Loses his shit at the crowd of aliens. It's great. He gets EXTREMELY 40k racist on everyone and starts trying to start shit with the local tau before he has to be pulled back by everyone else. Eventually he just runs off on his own and leaves his buddy's on the rogue trader ship.
Eventually Talen comes back, and in a move that legit shocked me confesses to selling the ape into slavery to get the info. Then leaves to go find him after getting chewed out. Then the RT absolutely loses her shit when she realizes the monkey had a necron artifact in his ass. To the point of just straight up telling the kids to get the hell off her ship. Zelia has to give her puppy dog eyes to get her to relent. She even convinces Amity to let her try to talk to Karter by herself diplomatically.
Karter: "that was very funny, now get the hell of my shop before I let my loaner tau drone open fire"
While this is going on we get a "meanwhile" segment with the actual inquisitor that was going to answer the kids distress call.
Dude's got a talking servoskull and a cyberhound as his backup. Gotta love how he takes one look at the surroundings and recommends the planet undergo exterminatus (genestealers.) but not before getting a psyker imprint reading from a toy Talen left behind. In a genius scene, the inquisitor reacts with genuine shock and horror at the amount of shit these kids had to go through with the artifact in their hands. Even praying to the emperor that he can save them.
Then back at the ranch the culturally enriching Kroot comes back with friends to kill everyone and steal the RT's ship.
Yeah they try to use lethal force on the kids. They miss, but still. Things are dicey until Amity comes out and fucking smokes them. It's very very quick and offscreen but she legit kills them all.
Alright kids here's some weapons, Here POC, have some flash bangs because your dumbass wont use a real gun. What about you tech boy? "ill take a shock baton" Then we learn cogboy's unsanctioned when a slip of the tongue reveals he escaped mars. Amity leaves them behind with the Servator, but stupidly only told it to protect them without specifying where.
lol
So anyway, the kids and Amity link up in Karter's shop and try to rescue the monkey man. He's gotta be in the one stasis barrel in the corner right?
Yeah no. They almost get tenticuled to death before cogboy electrocutes it unconscious. Karter shows up and seems almost mildly annoyed, He attempts to fully sedate it before Amity holds him at gunpoint and tries to blackmail him for the ape. She could sell him out to the inquisition, or the port authority's for illegally trafficking a dangerous beast. Take your pick. He blurts out that he already sold him before the kraken wakes up and eats his ass. Yep that's right he's dead and Amity completely fucked him over. Wasn't even that bad a guy by 40k standards.
It almost goes full godzilla before the Tau wipe it off the face of the earth.
WOO THE GREATER GOOD! WOOO
Our hero's are taken into custody, (rightfully so I might add.) to the owner of the outpost
The lightbringer....
Yeah this went in a direction I was not expecting. This isn't a ethereal, this isn't even a Tau empire sectioned operation. This entire outpost is a privately owned serfdom of a rogue tau. A rogue tau that's selling weapons and tech to independent imperials. She bought the monkey for shits and giggles and doesn't even try to sell the illusion of doing anything for the greater good. After POC child mouths off one too many times she straight up decides to just throw everyone out the airlock.
Then the room turns in a clusterfuck as the left behind servitor busts though the doors and starts killing people with a severed tentacle. Head's get cracked, One of the battlesuits turns on their masters and unloads a clip into a Tau solider girl's back. Grabbing a dude and smashing his face into another breaking his neck. Turns out Talen was hidden in one of them and had hatched a plan with the monkey to bust him out when the time was right. The POC crew fucked up the plan. But don't worry.
Cog boy is good at improvising.
They utterly wipe everybody out. Zeila even uses a gun for the first time (nonlethally to bust out ape but still) most of the lightbringers troops are robots, but everybody that isn't is fucking dead. And for good measure it turns out Amity alerted the real Tau empire about what's going on. She's been working for them the entire time.
Order is restored for the greater good!
In a based scene Zeila realizes how this has completely screwed everyone on the station, as the Tau forcibly seize everybody's property. She gets super pissed off at how no one has rights and that the Tau are little better then the imperium at its worst. Amity doesn't really give a shit as long as the Tau hold up their end of the bargain for the captured lightbringer. Of course they don't and draw weapons. The Tau really don't want anybody to know that one of their own was capable of this level of corruption. They are nice enough to offer "citizenship" but our hero's say fuck that and flashbang them. Even bust out some prisoners and spare krakens for an open rebellion.
Naturally this doesn't amount to a hill of beans with a Tau fleet outside, so our monkey builds a solution. Jamming the Tau battlefleet by playing every amount of Vox data they have simultaneously.
I dont like spam calls much either.
The confusion actually is enough to completely disable the Tau weapons systems and let the outpost blow them out of the sky. So the Tau invasion force is completely massacred , and a shit ton of people probably died from the krakens running amok. YAY!
Our hero's fly off into the sunset for another adventure. Good shit.
I think the most insane Necron thing is reading about a star chart they have that can blow up any sun if its erased from the map. If they ever got their shit together they could destroy Terra and anything else they wanted.
So the game yesterday was fun; we both kept forgetting our own rules sometimes since we're both new. He kept forgetting that every turn he could have done a creeping barrage to slow my movement by 3 inches; he also forgot that his artillery could potentially cause battle shock every turn when it does an attack on something, which could have stopped my warboss from killing his Marshal and other units once they got close enough. He had a Leman Rus tank that could have been devastating, but he only had one and forgot it had a big ass missile that could have dealt massive damage. He had a lot of trouble getting through my Orks' boyz; the fact that I could use the Pain Boy to bring back up to 3 once a game and then every command phase use "Come on Ladz" to bring back up to 5 if I rolled well was not helping him. He had a turn where he killed 8 boyz in my warboss's bodyguard unit, and I ended up bringing back 7 of them. He was also lucky that I didn't know how Feel No Pain works, because my boyz had that thanks to the painboy. So my boyz had their normal 5+ save, a 5+ Invuln save thanks to Greentide, and Feel No Pain +5
So I ended up taking the middle objective from him, called the waagh, and then advance/charged onto a side objective and wiped out an entire host of his guardsmen, leaving him with just artillery that pretty much didn't do anything. It didn't help that his marshal didn't have a bodyguard unit since he didn't have the money for the deathriders. We also ignored the 11th edition missions and just agreed that the objectives were worth 5/5/10/5/5 since we were both learning how to play the game overall
It was the first time I've seen their site break like that in a while, but yeah, that was incredibly annoying. I managed to snag a copy as well, but it was an aggravating few minutes.
It was the first time I've seen their site break like that in a while, but yeah, that was incredibly annoying. I managed to snag a copy as well, but it was an aggravating few minutes.
So I just played Space Marine 2 and unfortunately now I really want to delve headfirst into Warhammer 40K shit but I don’t want to deal with tranny shit.
So I just played Space Marine 2 and unfortunately now I really want to delve headfirst into Warhammer 40K shit but I don’t want to deal with tranny shit.
40k doesn't have tranny shit (mostly) because the fan base are all autistic nazis. GW stays out of culture bullshit because culture bullshit doesn't sell plastic.
Read some novels, unless you hate reading Go play Dark Tide, Dawn of War Remaster, Boltgun, or Total Warhammer if so.
I was reading Star Wars Dark Empire a little while ago and I was struck at how eerily 40K esque it was. Of course Dark Empire predates all but 1st edition Rogue Trader, but the paralells are interesting. The Emperor becoming a near cosmic supernatural force of corruption, more Gothic and bleak imagery, upscaled destruction, more and more apocalyptic super weapons, etc...
A decade later and New Jedi Order added body horror, bio-tech abominations, and constant mass death. Dark Nest also reminded me of genestealer cults.
Interesting that the most 40k esque stories in Star Wars were also their most controversial.
At any rate, I haven't read many recent 40K novels in the past couple of years. Any standouts?
Hive - just came out, sweeping story ahout a hive in turmoil after the Arbites execute the nobility into compliance. Follows the new planetary governor on down to scavs. Lots of PoV but interesting for a fully human story.
Infinite and Divine - modern classic that follows two angry old robot men as they scheme, backstab, and begrudgingly work together over thousands of years trying to unlock a secret of necron heritage.
Dark Imperium Trilogy - Guilliman returns and fights a war against Mortarion. The 'intro' trilogy to the modern 40k timeline. Lots of PoV, lots of wacky gross Chaos nonsense, some real sicko shit and set pieces as well.
As well as enough plot armor that even Ciaphas would call them hax. Also, I wonder if these books will ever touch Chaos. Probably too extreme for a younger audience, especially Slaany.
I like how the kids feel genuinely uncomfortable when they walk into this place. Even liberal Zeila isn't taking it super well seeing Beast men, Ratlings, Tau, Kroot and all matter of things walking around in "harmony". Kids even get a bit disturbed by seeing clean and sleek Tau exo-suits move cargo.
Then Zelia gets her talking telescope stolen by a random Kroot. She's ok with giving it up.
Yeah this went in a direction I was not expecting. This isn't a ethereal, this isn't even a Tau empire sectioned operation. This entire outpost is a privately owned serfdom of a rogue tau. A rogue tau that's selling weapons and tech to independent imperials. She bought the monkey for shits and giggles and doesn't even try to sell the illusion of doing anything for the greater good. After POC child mouths off one too many times she straight up decides to just throw everyone out the airlock.
I wasn't aware that Ethereals could even become corrupt due to the whole poorly unexplained mind-control pheromones/whatever they have other the other Castes. Otherwise, the Tau would have crumbled by chaos possession overnight.
I think the most insane Necron thing is reading about a star chart they have that can blow up any sun if its erased from the map. If they ever got their shit together they could destroy Terra and anything else they wanted.
Hive - just came out, sweeping story ahout a hive in turmoil after the Arbites execute the nobility into compliance. Follows the new planetary governor on down to scavs. Lots of PoV but interesting for a fully human story.
Infinite and Divine - modern classic that follows two angry old robot men as they scheme, backstab, and begrudgingly work together over thousands of years trying to unlock a secret of necron heritage.
Dark Imperium Trilogy - Guilliman returns and fights a war against Mortarion. The 'intro' trilogy to the modern 40k timeline. Lots of PoV, lots of wacky gross Chaos nonsense, some real sicko shit and set pieces as well.
No, I do not have any faction or tone preferences. Im only concerned with writing quality and entertainment. I did read the Infinite and the Divine and greatly enjoyed it.
Hive seems interesting and so does Dark Imperium. I must have been operating under the wrong assumption as I thought the Guilliman stuff was confined to scourcebook/rulebook publications. Thanks friend.
I was reading Star Wars Dark Empire a little while ago and I was struck at how eerily 40K esque it was. Of course Dark Empire predates all but 1st edition Rogue Trader, but the paralells are interesting. The Emperor becoming a near cosmic supernatural force of corruption, more Gothic and bleak imagery, upscaled destruction, more and more apocalyptic super weapons, etc...
A decade later and New Jedi Order added body horror, bio-tech abominations, and constant mass death. Dark Nest also reminded me of genestealer cults.
Interesting that the most 40k esque stories in Star Wars were also their most controversial.
At any rate, I haven't read many recent 40K novels in the past couple of years. Any standouts?
Baneblade and its sequel Shadowsword are great books that show the Guard getting shit done. Shadowsword even has a rare reasonable Comissar attached to the main characters cousins platoon.
Sometimes lore can be confusing because certain events get introduced in campaign books and then later expanded on in novels later. Guiliman's return was first in the Gathering Storm books which were for 7th edition leading into 8th. Dark Imperium was then written after his resurrection so it won't cover the actual 13th Black Crusade or how he came back to life. If you want that specific story you will only find it in the campaign books. Those are often short stories anyways not full novels worth of lore. If you're really interested you might be able to find someone on YouTube who reads it or at least summaries it for you.
Guilliman's stuff is spread out across the Dawn of Fire series, some of the Cawl books, even parts of Watchers of the Throne, in addition to being stapled into rulebooks as random short stories and other nonsense.
No, I do not have any faction or tone preferences. Im only concerned with writing quality and entertainment. I did read the Infinite and the Divine and greatly enjoyed it.
Assassinorum Kingmaker. It's another entirely self contained story that covers assassins(duh) and knights(as in big piloted robots) that is written well, and while does have some comedy elements on occasion it's not the same tone as Infinite and Divine.
My box still hasn't arrived because the fuckers I bought it from were too small of a store still, waiting to see if they would get enough orders to justify bringing it. It is allegedly at sea, being shipped from the UK, I might get it next week. If I don't then lol lmao I got got like a retard all to save essentially 10 bucks.
I'm new to Warhammer and while I was never much of a TTRPG guy I've always loved reading and the whole grimdark style worldbuilding has been quite intriguing to me, however there are so many books and I'm unsure where to really start. What would any of you recommend to a total beginner?
Unironically, the Warhammer adventure novels. Although actually very. Well, we're in and explore a good amount of the setting.
And they're pretty short, so you can get to like all 6 of them in like two weeks. Depending on how fast you read.
My Rogue Trader game, the GM, had to call the session early 'cause he expected us to just. Bribe a bunch of people rather than negotiate with the feuding two Space Marine chapters and offering one of the military aid in exchange for the return of our house troops.
Though the winrates are obviously all over the place I don't think it's surprising that armies like Necrons and T'au were the most popular considering they were doing well in 10th edition. T'au especially I think will do well overall this edition too. Although I hate what they've done to our detachments, everything else has been a boon. With cover being a reduction in BS, AP becomes more valuable. T'au has easy access to ignore cover anyways, so despite cover being easier to get the army is never too concerned. Units can remain hidden if they are just being used to spot. Nearly everything worth bringing in the army also flies. Being able to finally ignore terrain again, along with not needing to be wholly within terrain to shoot from it, means that positioning a gunline is pretty trivial.
Necrons are just a solid army with really good rules, and good datasheets. They have options for just about everything. Everything hits hard and is hard to kill.
The fact that Tyranids and EC have high win rates with a decent sample size should concern people. GW has not been nice when these two have been doing well.
1ksons will be nerfed to dust but they should be used to that.
