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I enjoy the world building, you can understand why characters act the way they do and nobody is out there doing random bullshit that makes no sense for their character. The Arbites chick is one of my favs as well just because she fully understands everyone in the hive is a weird person with weird bullshit cultural nonsense going on, but since she's from the Imperium at large she'd really just prefer they all start acting normal.
And also so much detail is put into irrelevant bullshit that never comes up again. Yes, the planet is very drab and miserable. It does not need a pragraph every 2-3 pages. Neither do I need the characters' thoughts and beliefs spelled out to me for nearly an entire page. There is so much of this I think a good deal of these stories could be told in a fraction of their actual size.
That's usually the best part. That's all of the worldbuilding. What are things like? Why do people think the way they do? What motivates people to do whatever they're doing? Is this person doubting something? Do they believe things could be better? Yes, a lot of the authors write engagements in laughably silly ways because they don't know any better and just write what they think sounds cool(especially regarding numbers and scale), but the rest of it is basically the entire point of having the books in the first place. And there's been tons of suggestions and summaries of books people think are some of the better ones in this thread.
Realistically... they're just an excuse for GW to sell a book for shit people would normally be souping into other armies(aside from knights/titans) but yeah it's dumb. The fleet detachment affects everything, so that makes sense as a general 3dp detachment following how they've done them for the rest of the factions. But the inquisitor ordo specific detachments? And then the assassin detachment has a hard cap on how many points you're even affecting since it's just the assassins. They also said very early on that you can't combine detachments from other factions so it would just be a non-issue to make them all 2dp or whatever anyway.
And if you're wondering what the mustering rules are for building a list...
So that's from the core rulebook, once again you've still got to wait to see what the app says because publishing rules for GW means only publishing half of them.
Realistically... they're just an excuse for GW to sell a book for shit people would normally be souping into other armies(aside from knights/titans) but yeah it's dumb. The fleet detachment affects everything, so that makes sense as a general 3dp detachment following how they've done them for the rest of the factions. But the inquisitor ordo specific detachments? And then the assassin detachment has a hard cap on how many points you're even affecting since it's just the assassins. They also said very early on that you can't combine detachments from other factions so it would just be a non-issue to make them all 2dp or whatever anyway.
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So that's from the core rulebook, once again you've still got to wait to see what the app says because publishing rules for GW means only publishing half of them.
They could have just made the detachments all 2DP if they didn't want people combining them in a 2,000 point game.
That's usually the best part. That's all of the worldbuilding. What are things like? Why do people think the way they do? What motivates people to do whatever they're doing? Is this person doubting something? Do they believe things could be better? Yes, a lot of the authors write engagements in laughably silly ways because they don't know any better and just write what they think sounds cool(especially regarding numbers and scale), but the rest of it is basically the entire point of having the books in the first place. And there's been tons of suggestions and summaries of books people think are some of the better ones in this thread.
T'au feels like we're only losing detachments since the "new" ones are just stripped down versions of full detachments we had.
Keyword restrictions make no sense to me. I can't imagine they are going to survive. You're telling me EPC, which now only buffs crisis suit character units, can't be taken with the only 2 DP detachment that is meant to field a significant number of battle suits? Am I meant to take this with my Kroot Hunting Pack since Auxiliary Cadre isn't compatible with other Auxiliary detachments? This is like telling me the square block does not go in the square hole.
In other news my brothers want to go to Adepticon next year. My life is a train wreck in slow motion but now I guess I have motivation to finally complete a 2k army. It's been so long since I last painted I feel like I'm going to have to relearn the basics again. I completely forgot which of my three shades of brown I started using on Kroot...I should've kept a paint diary.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're already halfway through the year and there's still no release date for Astartes 2? All they did was reupload the same trailer from a year ago back in march saying they didn't forget but they gave us zero news whatsoever. And a lot of the footage shown is actually waaaaaaaay older than that, like the orcs jumping the marine.
Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if it's in development hell or if it gets delayed to 2027. Fuck GW.
I just finished Deacon of Wounds and it was really fucking good. I'm a Fehevari-fag but I've already read all his novels and wanted similar so I decided to try out Warhammer Horror and I wasn't disappointed.
It's a slow burner, basically no action or bolter porn but dripping with atmosphere. It's about an Arch-Deacon who is actually a true believer and a good man trying to save a planet that hasn't experienced rain in years and is basically fucked. Things obviously get weird, there's not really a big twist but the dread and his misteps keep building up and there's a satisfying payoff.
Surprised they had the balls to actually write up a high ranking Ecclesiarchy member as a good man, just for that it's worth a read.
SM1 was to third person action games what Dark Souls was to difficulty. In a sea of cover shooters with waist high walls, here's Space Marine where you wade into combat.
But then if they ever make say a Battletech game that plays like xcom he'll shit all over himself, and when you point out that it's an xcom clone he'll say you're wrong and retarded and just hate Battletech.
That said, Battletech is not capable of doing that kind of heavy lifting. No one outside of the niche fanbase looks at Battletech and wonders what life as a random guy on a random planet is like. Some people in the niche fanbase don't give a shit what life as a pilot is like when they aren't piloting big stompy robots and shooting at other big stompy robots. There absolutely is lore in universe that can carry this shit along, but it's going to generate a fraction of the interest that Warhammer ever could.
It's the opposite. Until Armored Core 6, there was an assumption that mech games = Battletech. Source? Me. Who tried to make a mech sim, and kept getting people telling me about AC20s and X-Pulse Lasers and when I said "it's not battletech" they'd lose interest.
It's the opposite. Until Armored Core 6, there was an assumption that mech games = Battletech. Source? Me. Who tried to make a mech sim, and kept getting people telling me about AC20s and X-Pulse Lasers and when I said "it's not battletech" they'd lose interest.
Yes, but again... I'm talking about with regard to a CRPG. You mention a mech sim? that's not a CRPG. Yes, if we're talking about a game of big stompy robots shooting at eachother... battletech for things closer to walking tanks and then anything else is basically Japanese(AC, Gundam, etc.). Also, these people you're talking about already knew about battletech. I'm talking about selling battletech as an idea to people(because if you're going to spend 20-50 million dollars making a game, you'll want people to actually buy it) that isn't just big stompy robots shooting at eachother.
If the CRPG just does end up being big stompy robots shooting at eachother... at that point you've just got MechCommander and I still wouldn't call that a CRPG either.
edit: And yes, I know battletech TTRPGs exist, hardly anyone plays them as they're a niche within the niche that is battletech, which is the problem with using battletech as the setting for a CRPG.
He's agreed to give OPR a try, though he's busy this month. One benefit of OPRs community lists feature is that people have already stated combat patrol boxes. They don't use the full box as unit sizes are different, but they come out to 1000pts each in OPR terms.
Still got to get terrain. I've built a 1000pt guard HDF list, Just throwing in some proxy guard and I'm surprised at the difference. SM get 2 leaders, 3 marines, 3 terminators. Guard get for the same value. A leader, a tank, and 20 infantry, and 20 vet infantry. I outnumber him 5-1 and have enough points left over for a leman russ.
Going to play unpainted, and if he likes it, going to challenge him to a game of escalation. Kind of like OPRs Crusade rules. You start with 1000pts, and gain 300pts if you lose, 150pts and vp if you win.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're already halfway through the year and there's still no release date for Astartes 2? All they did was reupload the same trailer from a year ago back in march saying they didn't forget but they gave us zero news whatsoever. And a lot of the footage shown is actually waaaaaaaay older than that, like the orcs jumping the marine.
Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if it's in development hell or if it gets delayed to 2027. Fuck GW.
There could be two possibilities. My personal theory is that it has something to do with the Amazon deal or the Astartes guy has left GW and none of the other animators are willing to take on the project.
There could be two possibilities. My personal theory is that it has something to do with the Amazon deal or the Astartes guy has left GW and none of the other animators are willing to take on the project.
So part of the "deal" was that the astartes guy would be getting a team to work with. I don't know if he was a professional animator before, but if not it could be he's not used to working with teams.
This guy is one of the people working on astartes 2
And has been a professional animator for years including some hollywood projects, and had posted untextured scenes from the astartes 2 trailer, before the trailer was released, as well as some work on a cancelled HH videogame, etc.
Anyway, my point is that he's still posting space marine test animations, so he's probably still working on it and it's still listed in his bio as a project he's worked or working on, the astartes guy having to work with a team if he hadn't before could be a problem, and it could also be that GW is just being slow as fuck like that third Bequin book that's been done for a year and a half or whatever.
Anyway, my point is that he's still posting space marine test animations, so he's probably still working on it and it's still listed in his bio as a project he's worked or working on, the astartes guy having to work with a team if he hadn't before could be a problem, and it could also be that GW is just being slow as fuck like that third Bequin book that's been done for a year and a half or whatever.
This is all about the big bad fall of Horus. It's an extremely drawn out process but im not complaining, I like that there are multiple points of failure instead of one singular screw up.
Most of it is his own dam fault to begin with. He refuses to listen to his men, lets Erebus puff up his pride, leroy Jinkins everything and overall has a really shitty understanding of the big picture. You get the sense that he's retreated inward and magnified his cockyness in response to the Interex snafu ( I was expecting little and still came away disappointed with how nothing is elaborated on their final fate. I don't even think they say anything other then imply that they were wiped out offscreen)
I like how uncomplicated and indirect Erebus's plan is. Stage a trap with darktide zombies using corrupted IG left behind, maintain plausible distance/deniability, piss off the warmaster, sit back and watch as he charges in. Dude makes Palpatine jealous with all the wheeling and dealing he does. Loved how he let some of own guys get eaten too just for shits and giggles.
The singular theme im starting to feel is that most if not all the traitor Primarch's fall because they refuse to listen to their subordinates. Sir we should just bombard the site from orbit, NO. Ok just let us go in and clear it out for you NO. Can you just fucking listen to us please for one second? NOOOOOOOOO (charges in like a dumbass alone) my favorite part was that it's a clearly a recently poisoned planet, but Horus has to take his helmet off and be like " I don't need to breathe!" The fact that it was simply an empowered fat nurgle human that did him in with the sword was pretty wild. Nurgle got mad props for this.
Although Horus could have won very easily if he just went for the killshot.
Big E screwed up so hard picking Horus. I firmly believe it was an emotional move born out of love then a cold calculated decision, and that bit him hard in the ass. Horus simply wasn't adaptable enough to deal with chaos, Its the combo of caring too much about his soldiers to leave them alone and being too pridefully stubborn not to lead them into battle. At no point does he question the situation put in front of him and try to understand why or how this shit is happening. There's a real impression that he has no idea of how Chaos even corrupts people. The whole time he thinks one of his subordinates intentionally betrayed him, when anybody with a working knowledge of chaos would know it corrupts to the bone.
So he gets stabbed and then boom he's got nurgle poison in him. He's still himself, but he's visually dying grieving over his corrupted subordinate and kinda pissed off that he was chosen to be warmaster instead of sanguinius. Which brings me to a interesting question. Who really was the best choice?
At first glance Id pick THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL rob, but Erebus given enough time and planning could probably worm his way in, so that pretty much leaves only people that could see though his bullshit. Personally im leaning towards corax. Dude immediately pegged Horus as a problem and loves gathering information on people. I think it could have worked, but maybe im crazy.
Loken's big screw up was leaving Horus alone to go hunt for the sword. He could have countermanded the decision to go the planet ritual. But then it's a question as to if Horus can recover on his own or if he dies and Elubis still takes that as a win. In any case seeing little Horus break under peer pressure and give in was pretty sad.
it was interesting to see how fragile the fleets morale gets when Horus is waylaid. There's a couple ships on the brink of panic stricken mutiny when they think the warmaster died. The high and mighty atheist mindset crumbles pretty hard among everyone with Horus waylaid. Whole thing really shows how much of a cult of personality the primarchs and emperors rule is. Beyond that there's also an interesting dynamic where growing emperor worshipers pray for horus restoration vs a growing sect of Journalists that want to shit talk the Astartes because they ended up crushing a bunch of idiots that got between them and the medbay. A demon even gets exorcised at this point by a regular emperor living human chick, which is pretty wild for this point in time.
Anyway the whole vision quest with chaos was pretty Genus. Maybe it's a legit astral projection of the future/past, maybe its total bullshit, but Horus going to a 40k shrine world and seeing all this shit the emperor outlawed without context was a pretty smart move. Alongside a vision
/Time travel of the great primarch split. The whole thing plays on his insecurities, fear of the future and uncertainty of the emperor's intentions.
Also enjoyed how frat bro stupid Magnus comes across in his first appearance. Dude is literally drinking wine thinking he can do no wrong while ignoring his subordinates concerns. He shows up in the vision to try and convince Horus not to turn traitor and arguably does him in by making the worst calls and at first showing up as a furry. Dude completely screwed himself over.
I love how there's no hesitation or pretenses of morality when Horus gets possessed. He's fucking demonically evil and kills an entire world for its technology. Great stuff. Angron is just a mad evil tribal bastard and that's enough. Karn being yelled at by Horus was funny. Good book.
As a side note:
I have to wonder what the hell malcador was smoking when he sent a disney princess/journalist to go be Horus'es chronicler. The whole thing has vibes of a hopeless budding love story before he gets corrupted, so I can only assume he wanted Horus to get macked on for shits and giggles. Too bad her story ends pretty brutally. The side vibe with her badass slave assistant is pretty cool, im wondering how far that goes as he somehow manages to get into traitor marine inner circle. The whole sword that can cut souls out of bodies was neat, but it seems to disappear completely after the one fight.
Fortunately, Genestealers are literally not people due to the whole hive mind thing, so exterminating anything that smells of a giant bug is the correct reaction.
The tau arguably have better countermeasures against genestealer infestations then the imperium due to the Kroot's sense of smell. It's not foolproof, there's an example of it getting past them by infecting a species that's not regularly checked for taint. (Vespid) It might be part of why they can identify chaos too but that's pure conjuncture on my part.
Big E screwed up so hard picking Horus. I firmly believe it was an emotional move born out of love then a cold calculated decision, and that bit him hard in the ass.
No, it had to be Horus. If all of the Primarchs represented some aspect of the Emperor Horus was his ambition, his will to power, his need to see people submit to him. To all of his brothers Compliance was either just a means to an end or something they simply gave no real fucks about, but to Horus it was the end itself. Guys like Sanguinius and Corax were far too much of a goody two-shoes to want to see an entire galaxy broken to their wills, and of the ones who would want to see the galaxy bow down, only one of them had the charisma and strength of will to get the other Primarchs to fall in line.
No, it had to be Horus. If all of the Primarchs represented some aspect of the Emperor Horus was his ambition, his will to power, his need to see people submit to him. To all of his brothers Compliance was either just a means to an end or something they simply gave no real fucks about, but to Horus it was the end itself. Guys like Sanguinius and Corax were far too much of a goody two-shoes to want to see an entire galaxy broken to their wills, and of the ones who would want to see the galaxy bow down, only one of them had the charisma and strength of will to get the other Primarchs to fall in line.
I would have picked Rogal Dorn because he was the most loyal primarch and he completely trusted in the Emperor's plan. No doubts in his mind like Horus. But maybe not the best leader
I would have picked Rogal Dorn because he was the most loyal primarch and he completely trusted in the Emperor's plan. No doubts in his mind like Horus. But maybe not the best leader
Yeah, Rogal would have had zero ability to get any of the more opinionated Primarchs like Fulgrim or Angron to do anything, whereas Horus, known as the Lord of Hearts due to his sheer charisma, could dominate the former and at least point the latter in a worthwhile direction.
