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Should be a wild four years.

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SCOTUS just told the district courts to fuck themselves.
6-3 ACB wrote it.


Dissent is the liberal women crying about birthright which ACB says is premature cuz the case wasn’t even about birthright.

“federal courts do not exercise general oversight of the Executive Branch; they resolve cases and controversies consistent with the authority Congress has given them. When a court concludes that the Executive Branch has acted unlawfully, the answer is not for the court to exceed its power, too."

“We observe only this:JUSTICE JACKSON decries an imperial Executive while em-bracing an imperial Judiciary."
No. It just suspended the court's Universal Injunctions specifically regarding the birthright citizenship Executive Order.

What it does do is BTFO Universal Injunctions outright. It doesn't shut them all down, but Trump can now go after all of them if they aren't rescinded. His Maryland lawsuit now just got infinitely stronger and he will likely win, permanently ending universal injunctions forever.
Dooming is not a winning mentality.
 
You know, a striking difference between the left and right is that, on a local level, when the left is completely unchallenged, they deliberately install the most shit-ass butt-stupid fuck-tarded incompetent government they can. They nigmax, crimemax, and hobomax their cities. Their #1 goal appears to be to make the city as shitty a place to live as is humanly possible. That's all that's happening in NYC. A couple of elections have made them securely confident that no Republican can win again, so it's time to, uh...completely fuck up basic governance.

By contrast, in any local government that's overwhelmingly Republican, granted, none of them terribly populous, you see clean streets, regularly patched potholes, well-kept parks, functional garbage service, and reasonably well-managed emergency services. They're not absolutely perfect, but I've yet to come across a medium-sized, conservatively populated town where anyone says, "Finally, with those demoKKKraps out of the way, we can finally turn this place into the disgusting pigsty we've always wanted!"
Actually everything you've described applies to republican controlled areas, this old drawing said so.


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Republicunts btfo!


Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the Union
Pritzker was being investigated when he was first elected because he removed the toilets in one of his mansions in order to not pay property taxes. Chicago runs Illinois and if it were cut off the state would be much better for it. The only Illinois governors in the past 20 years not to be actively doing shady shit were Bruce Rauner(republican and voted out as soon as he could be) and Pat Quinn( blagojevich's lieutenant governor, so probably pretty shady).
 
I'm skimming her dissent as we speak. It is twenty-two pages. And retarded, as is she, but what else is new.
Incredible. Hope she dies from a stroke or something. Fucking retard. She is the embodiment of DEI, quantity over quality and disgusting virtue signaling to the highest level of existence.
 
If you don't believe me, go ahead and ask some of your friends about Universal Injunctions and the Maryland Court lawsuit. See how much they actually know and how much you have to explain to them.
I don't think it's an issue of intelligence or age-specific, I think it's a toss-up of having too much faith in pre-established "authorities" of information (news media, government, radio) who can then only be informed via regimented means (specific news slots at a specific time of day, or a select few articles printed out in a news paper). If this individual did not watch the news, they're not going to have any idea what's going on, especially if they rely on streaming for content which circumvents the possibility of even accidently being informed to zero. In my experience old people who don't watch tv at all genuinely don't know half of what's going on, which may explain their voting patterns since they're likely just moving off of inertia.

Internet users meanwhile different but not too dissimilar. They can completely avoid any information if they so choose if they wish, and make an active decision to not absorb or consume content they don't desire to. This is mostly where the young fall I think, and I do get it in some respect. If you weren't aware of the Israel v Iran thing that happened over the past week, week and a half, then how would knowing about it have altered you week? Does you knowing about the injunctions negatively or positively affect the eventual outcome of the Trump case? Even in places like TikTok and YouTube, if the algorithm determines you don't consume news content or they make more off of you feeding you content that doesn't inform at all, you've now tailor-made an environment in which you don't have to become aware of anything lest you so choose.

You could likely ask any random in the street and receive the same look of perplexity trying to inform them on something they simply weren't aware of.

Hypothetical conversation of informing the average person about the Maryland Injunctions:
"Have you heard about Maryland's universal injunctions?"
"No, what's what?"
"Maryland's judiciary can automatically prevent proceedings on the cases of illegals being deported until they get a look at it first."
"Oh, I didn't know they could do that. Are they allowed to?"
"In theory, yes, because it's a power the court - any court has, really. But it's a blatant enough misuse of authority in this case because they're filed out automatically, and can even cross state lines. This can hold up deportation proceedings weeks, even months, wasting the state both time and money. The Trump admin is suing them for it."
"Well, alright then..."

Equivalent to:
"Did you know feudalism in Europe only officially died in 2008?"
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I shared the anecdote in the British news thread, but everyone I know off the internet had no clue about Israel and Iran, likely because they don't watch the news or use the internet for reading news either. The only people who seem to learn stuff are people who drive cars for long stretches, have the radio on, and just get glimpses of goings on when the DJ offhandedly mentions something. Most people genuinely aren't aware of things, and I don't even blame them for it nor do I think less of them for not bothering to, especially if it's not going to affect them personally. The "online safety act" which Null blocked UK IPs over has no popular pushback because most people have no idea it even exists, nor are people aware that they can arrested for "incitement" and the like (which pretty much describes every person who was ever arrested for it). The UK lucks out only because the perpetual inertia of "I hate immigrants" won out over "I love bennies" in the North and so there's a swing right-ward in polling.

I imagine in America most Americans thought: "It's 2020, things generally don't feel good, so I'm going to vote for the other party to fix it." -> "It's 2024, things generally don't feel good, so I'm going to vote for the other party to fix it."

As an aside: I'm genuinely curious how many Americans haven't heard of January 6. I remember seeing that stat somewhere regarding the 2024 election that was something like "6% of people had no idea who Kamala Harris or Donald Trump were" and I suspect the true number might be double or even triple that.

To sum: News consumption and information can be generally analogous to Kiwifarms: you ask me to describe the general makeup of the the Deathfats sub-forum, I'd have no clue; however, if you ask me to do the same for Grift Wars, I can be a bit more helpful, because Grift Wars has some cows I follow. I still have no clue who the fuck Nick Rieketa is and despite the number of times him and his associated have been featured (I assume that's what the "balldoverse" is) I haven't bothered to look into it.
 
You have to realize people like us who get and discuss news on one of the very very few uncensored places on the web are such a small minority that we're statistically irrelevant.

I'd say probably 60% or more of normies get their news exclusively from tik tok or Instagram and 30% might go to a mainstream news source like CNN but very very few people bother going deeper than that.
 
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6-3 Alito writing libcucks dissenting



The court first holds that the parents are likely to succeed on their claim that the policy of not allowing opt-outs unconstitutionally burdens their exercise of their religion.
“we have long recognized," Alito writes, "the rights of parents to direct 'the religious upbringing' of their children. And we have held that those rights are violated by government policies that substantially interfere with the religious development of children."

Sotomayor: The reverberations of the Court’s error will be felt, I fear,for generations. Unable to condone that grave misjudgment, I dissent.
 
American politics has officially gone homo. Case in point, the "Alpha Male" online phenomenon.
My response to this is....
"You ain't my daddy!"
Actually, you dumb feminist (but i repeat myself) it's the fucking euro faggot who said it, and we are laughing at him.

I don't know why it's so hard to get it trough your brain. Maybe it's the toxoplasmosis or the brain fog.
 
Saying this on the site that helped popularize the term "e-daddy" is certainly a bold strategy :smug:
Ackshually the edaddy thing is a brilliant deconstruction of Soyboy faggot cultural decay and a masterful subversion of the demagoguery of the Obama years and only very high IQ chuds like us understand that. Sure some of us wore diapers during the election but that was done ironically and to prove you can’t shame us anymore like in the past. Checkmate, libs!
 
You could likely ask any random in the street and receive the same look of perplexity trying to inform them on something they simply weren't aware of.
You're correct in that people consume information differently. I also understand the doctrine of "Well how does this affect your life". I've met plenty of of those people as well. The problem is, those people are often stupid. They might seem well put together, but they're far stupider than anyone gives them credit for. It is important to know laws and the news because it affects your business, your investments, etc. so the doctrine of "How Does It Affect Your Life" is diametrically false. It's a fallacy that keeps people stupid. You don't have to go crazy like we do here in this thread, but you have to be somewhat informed.

"Have you heard about Maryland's universal injunctions?"
"No, what's what?"
"Maryland's judiciary can automatically prevent proceedings on the cases of illegals being deported until they get a look at it first."
"Oh, I didn't know they could do that. Are they allowed to?"
"In theory, yes, because it's a power the court - any court has, really. But it's a blatant enough misuse of authority in this case because they're filed out automatically, and can even cross state lines.
Funnily enough, even you got it wrong. Universal Injunctions are not a power or authority given to them. It's just something they've been allowed to do maybe once or twice previously in the past and that's solely because it was never challenged. It's not legal or Constitutional and it never was. They were never intended to be used this way. So no, it isn't the power of the court.

The problem with Maryland in particular is that they said all lawsuits regarding deportation across the COUNTRY had to be brought before Maryland. They got so overwhelmed with suits from ACLU, they just started automatically granting stays, preventing Trump from deporting anyone. It was a full blown judicial coup and every judge involved belongs in a jail cell.
 
You have to realize people like us who get and discuss news on one of the very very few uncensored places on the web are such a small minority that we're statistically irrelevant.

I'd say probably 60% or more of normies get their news exclusively from tik tok or Instagram and 30% might go to a mainstream news source like CNN but very very few people bother going deeper than that.
I think the point in absorbing news is with the intent to regurgitate it or make some use of it when forming an opinion or arguing your position with others (this is troublesome too since it relies on the other person knowing the same thing you did because otherwise it's just rendered irrelevant). But most people don't have a reason to do this, since they're rarely in a position where it comes up or is important.

Going off of some data from the UK, the majority of adults consume news in some form of another. I know it's not going to be identical to the American experience but I think broad strokes some stuff can carry over; though I imagine Americans were at "52% social media for news" consumption back in 2016. Whilst they determined everybody consumes news in one way or another, two pivotal (to my point of view) questions that go unanswered are: how often and how much.
What we have found – in brief
Overall news consumption:
• An overwhelming majority (96%) of UK adults say they consume news in some form. However,
the ways in which people access the wide variety of news platforms are changing.
• In 2024, seven in ten (71%) say they consume online news in some capacity, level with news
consumed via TV and on demand (70%). Social media is a significant component of online news
consumption, with more than half of UK adults (52%) using it as a news source.
• Although TV news viewing, previously the single most-used platform, has declined since last
year (75% in 2023, falling to 70% in 2024), we know from Barb data that half of all adults (51%)
still watch news on any of the main public service broadcasters (PSBs) each week. The PSM
tracker shows that the public value of trusted and accurate news is a priority for audiences and
is rated highly.
Online and social media:
• Among adults who directly access news publishers, websites and apps, the BBC website (59%)
has the highest claimed use, followed by Sky (20%), The Guardian (20%) and The Daily Mail
(19%).
• Facebook continues to be the most-used social media source (reaching 30% of UK adults), in line
with 2023, while TikTok has been growing in popularity as a source of news, reaching 11% of UK
adults, up from 1% in 2020.
• Six in ten UK adults (59%) claim to use some form of online intermediary (social media, search
engine or news aggregator) for their news consumption. Meta (40%) and Google (32%) are the
most commonly used intermediaries, reaching three-quarters of all adults.
Generational differences (16-24s and over-55s):
• Online sources continue to be most popular among the younger age groups, with nine in ten
(88%) 16-24-year-olds using online sources for news. Social media is the main driver of this, with
eight in ten (82%) young adults using this platform. Only half of 16-24s (49%) use TV for news.
• In contrast, TV news (including on-demand) is the main news platform used by 85% of people
aged 55+. But this age group is also gradually adopting online news, with over half (54%) now
using online platforms for news. This is largely driven by direct access (to news publishers,
websites and apps), with only 28% of those aged 55+ using social media for news.
For a TV-watcher, if Fox did a whole story on the universal injunctions on Tuesday, but said TV-watcher didn't watch news that day but something else, then they probably won't have an opportunity to learn about them ever again from their primary source. Online, outside of specific circles, Israel v Iran is already old news and has left the spheres. Everybody might consume news, but not everybody consumes it very often, or even absorbs it - consider the rather recent spike in doomerism during the Israel/Iran thing with Trump, and it's arguably not even a trait exclusive to normies. A lot of people probably don't bother to learn or remember stuff that happens more than a year ago.
 
Can you imagine being Sotomayor and Kagan these last few years?

Thinking you were the begining of a new wave of activist judges who would reshape America in every way by judicial fiat and inventing law out of thin air, only to be continually blown out by a conservative supermajority?

The dissents and them almost in tears crying from the bench as they read them is prime LMAO material. They know they're basically useless for social and other liberal policy changes for decades now.

Warms my soul after seeing all the outright bullshit that was allowed to happen under RBG.

Cheers frens.
 
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