Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Strangolapreti]

So, let me get this straight:
The optiomal boss of chapter 5 was such a letdown that tony had to add extra OoOoOoOH MYSTERIOUS gastery blastery dialogue to desperately tie it to the bigger Friend shit, right?
Is aware to the fact that giving people reheated leftovers with the rehashed mad mewmew fight that he felt the need to spoil part of his super secret plan to keep his fans distracted by the fact that he should have juat made a different boss and updaded the pc version of Ut to add mewmew, right?
What a fucking nigger.

True (Soulless) Kris outright saying he wants to protect Noelle is a bit of a tell that he does still care a lot about her, even if he's keeping his true feelings hidden.

I'm not saying I think kris straight hates her, rather than she's like a sister to him, while Susie is the one he wants to impregnate.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I think that Kris and Noelle are simply good friends that fell apart, and Kris's desire to protect her lines up with that really well.

Susie though? Yeah Kris just straight up has a crush on Susie. Dude is barely keeping it together.

 

[Newcomer 42]

just in case there was any sliver of doubt, these are unused assets from current chapter, I find highly implausible that we will see any type of kriselle, there's only going to be lesbianism.

Welp, that settles it. That "Sussie is mindraping everyone" is sadly a theory, as that would imply the heckin' cute lesbian romance is bad, and that can't be tolerated. Reminds me of the mind-control theory from ME3, heh.
At best, we'll get the "we'll get to know each other slowly" lesbo-romance shit, as mentioned here.
Not sure why these sprites were cut, though. Lack of time?

People expected atleast SOME answers from Asgore, not heckin japanese little weeb adventures.

I also expected some explanation why Asg was kicked out, not having him repeat the same mistake of Lightyear and essentially have him give up on doing the right thing.
Oh, and Toriel and Sans were white-washed, likely by the troon team as it runs counter to what Toby previously established.

The entirety of chapter 5 was such a letdown that tony had to add extra OoOoOoOH MYSTERIOUS gastery blastery dialogue to desperately tie it to the bigger Friend shit and make it less shit, right?

Fixed.
The entire chapter is a waste of time.

Susie though? Yeah Kris just straight up has a crush on Susie. Dude is barely keeping it together.

Too bad he'll get fuck-all. Toby clearly loathes normal/straight people.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Not sure why these sprites were cut, though. Lack of time?

There have been a lot of cut Susie x Noelle sprites, actually. All they way back in Ch 2 and then 4 people found out there were more completely finished uwu lesbean sprites, especially from the house section, that were left out for seemingly no reason.

Sappy shit like them cuddling on Noelle's couch and playing bideo gaymes together, stuff like that.

I always assumed that it was Toby's artists going ham and Toby reeling them back because it's not what he was going for and quietly leaving the more over-the-top stuff on the cutting room floor.

If he's planning any kind of twist or unhappy edge to Suselle then going 110% of the "zomg so wholesome" browbeating might undermine it.