Toyhou.se / Toyhouse Community - The DeviantArt Diaspora and Its Refugees -- Honeypot Thread for Speds

[dappouROCK]

Highly regarded saars I wish to inquire for an invite to see the forums they got that shit under lock hillside.

Enjoy your new hellsite.

 

[Consigliere]

All he wishes for christmas is a sugar daddy on TH.

https://toyhou.se/~forums/11.general-off-topic/739094.poor-and-horny?page=1

 

[UtadaWasabi2]

Can someone explain art adoption and culture behind it to me?

 

[Ghost Boy]

Can someone explain art adoption and culture behind it to me?

Here, I had chatgpt do it cause I'm lazy.

Spoiler: Long

Art adoption has its own history, etiquette, and very online culture, so I’ll break it down clearly and without judgment.


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What “art adoption” means

An art adoption is when an artist designs a character (OC) and then sells or trades the rights to that character design to someone else. The buyer becomes the new owner of that character.

Think of it like:

Buying a custom character

Or adopting a ready-made OC instead of designing one from scratch


The art itself and the character concept are closely linked, but they’re not always the same thing legally or culturally (more on that below).


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Why adoptions exist

Adoptions became popular because they:

Let artists monetize character design, not just commissions

Give buyers a unique OC without needing design skills

Create a collecting/trading culture similar to Pokémon cards, gachas, or NFTs (but without blockchain)


Many artists enjoy designing characters more than maintaining them long-term, so adoptions let designs “find homes.”


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Common types of adoptions

1. Flat-price adoptions

You pay a set price

First come, first served

Most beginner-friendly


2. Auction adoptions

Bidding war

Often used for high-effort designs

Can get very expensive in popular fandoms or species


3. OTA (Offer to Adopt)

You offer:

Money

Art

Writing

Customs


Artist chooses the offer they like best


4. Gacha / mystery adoptions

Random design pull

Popular in species communities



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What you usually get when you adopt

This varies by artist, but commonly:

Rights to use the character (roleplay, write, redesign outfits, etc.)
Right to commission other artists to draw them
Right to rename, change personality, backstory

You usually do not get:

Copyright to the original artwork

Rights to resell the art as merchandise unless stated

Rights to claim you drew the original image



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Credit culture (this part matters a lot)

In adoption communities, credit is sacred.

Typical expectations:

Always credit the original designer

If reposting the original art → credit clearly

If redesigning → still credit the base designer


Not crediting = social death in some spaces


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Redesigns & “how much can I change?”

This depends on the artist’s TOS (terms of service):

Some allow full redesigns

Some require the character to remain recognizable

Some forbid species changes

Some require approval for major changes


Culturally, even if rules allow it:

People side-eye redesigns that erase the original concept entirely

Respectful evolution is favored over “I bought it so it’s unrecognizable now”



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Reselling & trading culture

Many adoption communities treat characters like collectibles.

Common rules:

You can resell, but not for more than you paid unless:

You added art

You got permission


Tracing value history matters

“Value inflation” is controversial


Some communities track:

Ownership history

Total monetary worth

Art count attached to a character



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Species & closed species culture

This is where things get intense.

Open species

Anyone can make one

Adoptions are optional


Closed species

You must:

Buy an adoption

Get a MYO (make-your-own) slot


Heavy rules, lore, trait charts

Very community-driven


People love them because:

They feel exclusive

Lore is rich

Community events are common


People hate them because:

Rules can feel restrictive

Drama happens fast



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The unspoken social rules

Here’s the part no one tells beginners:

Do not ghost after buying → artists want to see their designs loved

Don’t flip immediately unless you must

Don’t erase credit

Don’t guilt artists about prices

Respect TOS even if you “disagree”


Breaking these won’t get you banned everywhere—but word travels.


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Drama & criticism (yes, it exists)

Common complaints:

“Selling characters is weird”

“Paywalls creativity”

“Feels like NFTs without the blockchain”

“Elitism in closed species”


Counterpoint from supporters:

Artists deserve to be paid

Character design is labor

Nobody is forced to participate


Both sides coexist, often loudly.


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Who adoptions are best for

Adoptions are great if you:

Love collecting OCs

Enjoy roleplay or writing

Like niche art communities

Want a character quickly


They’re frustrating if you:

Hate rules

Want full commercial freedom

Dislike social etiquette expectations



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TL;DR

Art adoption is:

Buying a character design

With social rules attached

Powered by credit, respect, anf community norms.

Fun, but drama-prone if you ignore etiquette.

 

[Consigliere]

Above post was jannied 5-6 hours after posting.

https://toyhou.se/~forums/11.general-off-topic/739470.uncomfortable-with-th-moderation

Uncomfortable with TH moderation?

Is anyone else uncomfortable with Toyhouses moderation? I know there’s a bunch of different issues on different topics. Sudo the admin has left multiple tickets of mine unanswered for over a year.

My main uncomfortableness for this post is regarding artwork crediting/theft. I’ve had multiple artworks I purchased uploaded to different stolen characters and Sudo hasn’t answered the theft tickets. I’ve provided the artist that drew the artwork, the link to the place where I purchased or claimed a slot, and the receipt for the transaction showing I paid for the artwork. I’ve also had MY artwork used without my permission and despite proper credits being on the image it still hasn’t been removed, the user that uploaded it removed my watermark from the image, it was never shared without the watermark.

With the lack of moderation I feel uncomfortable having all my images on here. I really like all the functions of toyhouse characters and how they’re laid out on the site but the other things have become increasingly uncomfortable for me. I was abused and have anxiety and mistrust about online moderation teams in general. That anxiety does lead to me worrying about Sudo forcibly transferring my characters or their images to someone else. I also worry that if some random person asks Sudo for private things like my other accounts username, IP address, or my personal information that Sudo may give that person that information. These are kinda ridiculous worries but at the same time Sudo refuses to remove my personal information that is hosted onsite by a predator.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to combat these concerns?

I was abused and have anxiety and mistrust about online moderation teams in general. That anxiety does lead to me worrying about Sudo forcibly transferring my characters or their images to someone else

Replies are being half-defeatist half-complaining:

I've not really been super satisfied with moderation here either; if I had a dollar for every time I reported completely unmarked fetish art and and I got a response saying there was nothing sexual with it...

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the moderation on this site has gotten worse. Now, I know that only one person is responsible for the admin role and overall moderation, but this isn't what I mean.

I've seen multiple cases of harassment and similar abuse, and when these things are brought to the admin in tickets they just say "It's a personal dispute. I can't do anything". And, this probably wouldn't be a problem, but the amount of times I've seen the admin respond like this grows more and more frequent.

I don't like trash talking the admin because I do love this site but, at the same time, it's like... Why bother responding at all if you aren't going to handle any of the reports you're given? I've witnessed cases of harassment that were so bad that several users had to leave the platform because they were at risk of their personal information getting leaked. It was just that bad. And the admin did nothing throughout the entire situation except say it was 'personal' and they couldn't do anything about it.

Let's see, we got: Unflagged sexual topics such as some bewares and blacklists that explicitly talk about porn people draw somehow that being fine and dandy, like uhm no maybe let's NOT let kids talk about nor know about what porn people draw wtf. And then there is the obvious fetish/kink art being allowed to be posted by minors and left unflagged even by adults so THAT'S a wtf from me. The admin sure loves letting minors be exposed to sexual content and topics I guess. And then we got the users stalking, block evading, harassing, bullying, lying, people falsely accusing people of having paraphilias they dont have which is fucking INSANE btw, and other wild shit that's allowed because "teehee that's personal drama sorry" that is turning this site in to a shithole. This site is unsafe for both minors and adults at this point. I swear the only thing people get in trouble for is dekudogs.

If this site wasn't so useful for tracking credits easily I'd be tempted to jump ship.

I don't think there's anything anyone can do besides just...Not use Th. Which sucks.

 

[Consigliere]

Common specimen vents about their tragic yet common backstory from a burner.

TLDR "here's some embarrassing information about me erping as a minor PLEASE DONT BULLY ME PLEASE REASSURE ME"

I need serious advice/words/what to do on this​

TW for some: mentions of grooming



I won’t get into the whole story but long story short i was groomed online at the ages of 10-12 which made me decide to start lying about my age to a few years older than what I actually am

however I kept the lying about my age even when i went onto toyhouse and continued to lie about my age for years. Which then eventually led me to go into NSFW and adult spaces especially in the forums while lying about my age when I was actually 16-17 but since I was lying for so long and I was pretty good at it, and also not just viewing NSFW content and going into 18+ marked spaces but also going as far as being able to commission some NSFW artwork of some of my characters while I was a minor at the time

I am now 18 and have been for a while and old enough to be participating in these adult content areas and spaces but I’ve interacted so closely to a few adults on the site I had to tell them for their own sake but at this point i don’t know what much else I can do since i’ve kept quiet about this for so long and I feel like I can’t really anymore, even though I know I won’t be forgiven and I will be cancelled and this is probably something that will be stuck with me forever since I was lying about my age as young as 11 years old (though I have been on toyhouse since I was 13 or 14 years old) especially with how much I was in adult spaces on toyhouse even making some adult spaces myself while pretending to be one

I just know this makes me the scum of the earth because I’ve definitely hurt quite a few people with it and regardless of what happened to me in the past it doesn’t justify what I did at all because I still betrayed an entire site basically and even more so for select few people (even though now i’m an adult and can participate in 18+ content and spaces freely) and i’m just… stuck and hurt idk man, I hate how I got myself here out of my own stupidity, I might even leave the site/the internet entirely because of how stupid I am

I’m just stuck on how many people I should tell (and also I would want to avoid a PSA on me since I’m not a minor anymore) and if it would be worth it to leave the internet entirely since I’m going to ruin my friendships and reputation anyways because of how much of a bastard I am



and the main message I do want to get out there is that there’s no reason for people to be following my footsteps and with the rising amount of minors I’ve seen doing some similar things that I did, you are not an exception to the rule and it really does hurt in the long run (I know minors cannot see this thread but I still think I should say this)

Replies (can be skipped to the last reply):

Im gonna be honest. This just isnt that much of a big deal? First of all, lying about your age on the internet as a kid is Good. 15 years ago that was the standard practice for all kids?? To just say youre 18 or even 25 or whatever so you could hang out with others without judgement And to protect yourself from creeps. The com thing is a bit bad cos technically you couldve gotten the artist in trouble and im sure if they were a full adult (not just 18 or whatever) theyd be very uncomfortable but whats in the past is in the past, not much that can be done about it now. Also being 17 and into nsfw is literally normal, youre not morally rotten lol. Idk truly this seems like such a non issue especially since youre an adult now, just tell whomever you want to tell and move on

Personally until i turned actually 19 id been 19 on every site since i was 13. To not look like a kid and to have access to adult content, because i enjoyed reading porn, and otherwise didnt want to have things kept from me. Never even thought to feel guilty about it cos who cares

i don't know, i'd like to offer a different perspective

while you shouldn't disclose your age as a minor on the internet for your OWN safety, i still think it's bad to lie about being an adult, especially if you're doing that to get into 18+ spaces. the fact that you commed NSFW artwork as a minor is.... Not Okay! ok, you was 16-17, you wasn't a baby; but you were STILL a minor, and misleading an artist to think that you're an adult so you can recieve this kind of artwork isn't fair on the artist at all. that's EXTREMELY dangerous for an artist and could potentially get someone in a lot of trouble because you couldn't wait 1-2 years.

i did kink art for a long time and was involved in a kink community; there was a certain individual that became quite popular and was friends with a lot of artists. one day they posted a long apology in a discord server frequented by a lot of us, basically saying that they had only just turned 18 and had been lying about their age for THREE YEARS. it's one thing lying about your age to view NSFW content. teens do that, i think we all did to a certain capacity. but was you also active and talking to adults about things you shouldn't have been?

anyway, i'm not sure this makes 100% sense i am not very well at the moment, but my advice would be, be honest and own up to this. and move on. people may not forgive you and they have every right not to forgive because this could have led to some awful consequences for them. and hopefully, YOU have been safe during this; unfortunately there are too many bad people on the internet that could have taken advantage of you. learn from this and be more mindful in the future. we can't turn back time and we can't change certain things. but personally i think it's best to own up to this and be honest, you know?

Which is the kind of response the OP expected

@SHIVKISSES I like how you put it because i agree with you a lot and i feel the elephant in the room was the commissioning as well as other shameful things I did like making many NSFW threads and even roleplay with a few select people

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My biggest fear is that something like this is going to stick with me forever even in a few years from now, and if saying anything else at all would get people into actual serious trouble even when it was entirely entirely my fault, i’m still hesitant to talk about it at all anywhere else outside of a few people and this account mostly because of them and not me, whatever happens to. me from then and how other people won’t forgive me quickly (if at all, and I do not expect people to like me or forgive me after that) because I did this all to myself and I just feel bad I couldn’t fix this earlier

Note: Will be giving OP a fake name for privacy because I'm mutuals with them on their main and they recently went public about this on a bulletin linking this post. For now at least until someone decides to make a PSA about OP for lying about their age and interacting in adult spaces as a minor, etc. Will just be responding to their bulletin they made because they locked their comments on their main account and I can't DM them.

Hey Q. I saw your bulletin you made earlier. I'm so sorry to hear about what happened you a couple years ago, you don't deserve that to happen to you.

Teenagers and kid lying about their ages is a tale as old as time. Most adults online probably lied about their age at some point when they were minors so it isn't something you should be stressing out being publicly executed for. Though, I am a little grossed out and disappointed in you because you had access to my and other peoples' NSFW and mature locked content when you were a minor at the time (we've been moots since 2023?) plus you commissioning those artists NSFW art and NSFW RP with people who had no idea you were a minor. Echoing what other people have said, you could have possibly gotten people into trouble.

As mean as I might sound, I'm glad you are taking accountability but please do seek professional help for your trauma and take as much time you need from the interest.

One of the affected posters who has ERP'd with this person has choice wordswordswords while processing this "betrayal". Makes it all about xirself in the process.

Considering the person behind this linked this to their profile, I should just rip the bandaid off. Considering I was a mutual. A close one at that. I know not everyone is going to have the same opinions. That's ok! I think everyone is correct, but the context here... there's a lot of context that may shift general opinion. I've already brought it up to any others in private messages and on threads this user hosted that many, many adults were active in. For their sake, because this is DANGEROUS. To both the kid, and the adult/s.

I am also for the sake of this, gonna keep things anonymous. No names will be dropped. But if you know, you know and don't fucking harass. I did talk to someone close to you, and they are also seeking the help for being in on this. I appreciate that. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for that. Both of you need that help and I hope to GOD this improves your well-being. I care about you. I genuinely fucking do. And that is why typing this, typing all of what I said earlier today, kills me. I am sobbing still. I went to bed crying. I won't go too deep into my emotions though. And I am leaving your personal mental/trauma related issues out of this, as I have been at least to the best of my ability.

This wasn't just the case of being a kid and seeking out nsfw content. I get MOST kids lie about stuff. Or participating in one nsfw space at 17 and then deciding to not do that. Or even hell, lying about your age.

I was manipulated for 2 years, perhaps more under the belief you were 2-3 years older than me. Many other adults were in my position. Many people were shocked it was this person. That's the crushing part. Not a single person said they expected it to be you. THAT fucking hurts. I say the word hurt a lot. But that's just how I feel. It was violating to have been in this circus for so long, thinking the ringleader was actually running it and not just someone in the backstage unprepared and unallowed themselves to enter pretending to be a role they didn't have.

This was more than just lying about age. Lying about where you went to school, making sure everything that could be seen as suspicious could be excused (considering I am an autistic adult with controlling parents at times, it's easy to believe I'm not the only one living in that situation, and believe me I do believe your situation isn't the best, it's just... it was chilling how well you were able to fool EVERYONE), lying that you were in your major. Lying about so much stuff. When we called. When we shared images (NOTHING NSFW IRL GOD NO, but selfies and stuff). I literally wasn't just going through the motions of assuming "YUP UR 18+" I legit did so much to MAKE SURE I WAS TALKING TO AN ADULT...

Everything you said had a convenient answer. And well, it was all believable. I never questioned it because you proved my trust. You proved it in many ways beyond that. I mean, I called you and we had hours long talks and I had so many images and videos of you and your home. Which I kinda wanted for the sake I was like... talking to an adult. But something else that made me never really doubt was how admirably passionate you were about kicking out minors from nsfw spaces.

We had so many conversations about this. Conversations about how minors doing this are not only annoying, but endangering themselves and others. How many times you blocked people you perceived to be children, and reported people who were lying abut their age. And rightfully so, those kids had no business being in those spaces. You even said how places that roblox or discord are often littered with these issues (and other stuff that's a bit TMI so I won't be mentioning), at least to my memory. Maybe it was another platform, another statement. God if only I knew every single thing we discussed from the top of my head. The fact you got many kids around your age banned... for the SAME stuff you did to such a high degree for this long... it does feel more than just a dumb kid entering a 18+ space and making amends when the truth gets revealed.

I don't get it? Why me? What did I do to deserve this? You were a victim of stuff, but now I am left a victim of your actions too. And I have to mourn something that I never wanted to kill between the two of us. Those drama blog posts trying to tear you into the mud for stuff regarding your adult style, judging you for your age... and don't get me wrong how stupid it was to assume your age because of your art, but how stupid, how fucking stupid I now feel for being deceived for so long.

It shatters me. I feel... lied to. Used. Deceived. Hurt. Betrayed. Violated. So, so violated. I counted the amount of erp threads we had together before you would have been of age. I couldn't fully process it until today. I am still processing it. I am glad you and the other person are recovering and choosing to take accountability rather than sweep it under the rug but just know it hurts. It will hurt for a while. My anger is genuine but so is my desire for you to be good. You are a good person. And that? That is what kills me. You truly feel remorse. I know you do.

But the damage is done and I am left a victim of something that doesn't even have a name for whatever it is called. I do feel used. I feel like a part of me was crushed. I feel like no matter what I do, I can't scrub myself any more clean than what I feel. I feel so fucking filthy. Even though I was under the impression you were a fucking college student... it makes me feel so gross that I unintentionally exposed a kid, and many other adults exposed a kid, to stuff they were not old enough or mature enough to see, discuss, or handle. It was selfish, and it was cruel. I didn't deserve that. You didn't deserve what happened to you either.

For what it is worth, I can't say I regret meeting you. But I regret you never told me the truth until it was too late. I am glad you told me don't get wrong. I appreciate the truth, especially with what would have followed had it NOT been aired. But it was also so fucking gutstabbing.

Also to anyone critical of me, note that the lying was incredibly well done. I and many adults could not have known. I have always rallied against people who prey on the vulnerable, especially animals and children, and to think to just THINK this could lead people to being accused of being the worst of the worst in society on top of potentially putting the minor themselves at harm of the scum of planet earth, this haunts me more than you will know. But I am 100% honest, and all the adults I have discussed this with are 100% honest that they had no clue this was an adult. It may be easy to judge, to think that "it's so obvious when someone is a kid/adult!" but that's just not the reality. That's like saying all racists or predators are obvious (not that I want this user to be compared to that, please keep comparisons to bigotry/crimes out of this)

I have proof, I have receipts. Texts, screen grabs, you name it. That being said, I will not be sharing anything personal, trauma-related, or irrelevant if I am asked for proof. Nope. I am respecting this person's privacy. BUT if you truly do not believe me 100% I can share stuff that can maybe change your opinion, though of course, I do ask that you try to see this and believe in my genuine nature. Because nobody wants to be a victim of this. It's not fun, it's not rewarding. It just leaves you feeling so, so sick.

 

[Dogstroyer]

oh my god this site is a shithole!

 

[Consigliere]

oh my god this site is a shithole!

Your thoughts have been inputted.

This one is a bit lower effort - a degen den user is questioning why is everyone looking for fuckbuddies on the forums lately turning toyhouse into a whorehouse. Replies have an equal amount of effort, so I'm not quoting them as text.

What’s up with the “something more” threads​

Spoiler: replies

"Something/Maybe more" refers to threads like these, which are on the front page consistently for about 4 days now:

lf friends {maybe more}​

waaaaaa hiii my names reni or rey i am twenty - my bd is July 21st hehe (she/they, AFAB non-binary pansexual)

im looking for art friends ...maybe more (fwb ? More? idk im very unsurelollllll) i reaaaalllyyyy wanna draw my ocs w urs/make ships heheh

est ~ furry artist/character collector ~ disabled physically & mentally ~ i work retail (they don't allow phones, apologies for late replies etc)

i love baking, horror, true crime, thunderstorms, mlp, anime (picky), papameat, tmnt, manifesting, cleaning, Garfield, Roblox, Stardew valley, aaaand more !!!

i have discord and th......that's about it sorry lol

feel free to comment or dm me idm !!! <33

18+ please OMG

They're basically soliciting for fwb or fuckbuddies in general.


Replies are standard-issue:

 

[Cave Fisher]

One of the affected posters who has ERP'd with this person has choice wordswordswords while processing this "betrayal". Makes it all about xirself in the process.

I know it's REALLY hard to guess people's ages on sites like this considering everyone's either 13 or a 30 year old manchild, but I just find it funny that amid all the monologues from people about how hurt and shocked they are about not seeing this coming, the OP's, when they confessed to being a user named Apodoforcas, artstyle looks like this in every single picture.

I'm PRETTY SURE there was more prior to her going DFE, but Toyhouse is excluded from the wayback machine, either way, for the most part it really is the same pose, same hair, same weird Roblox body type, exact same facial expression from a user who's been active there since 2020.

 

[milemarker]

One of the affected posters who has ERP'd with this person has choice wordswordswords while processing this "betrayal". Makes it all about xirself in the process.

LOL. This thread has been inactive for a while, but I saw this situation posted here, so I had to say something. I was there to witness this unfold even before anything happened. I unfortunately do not have screenshots of what went on, so you're welcome to be skeptical of what I have to say.

Apodoforcas had a spare account to post bulletins that she wouldn't post on main. During December, TheEliBlog and Apodoforcas would set up "ColorMyTrees" (for those unaware, it's a site that I believe operates every December for users to post messages, anonymous or not, in the shape of ornaments, to a digital tree).

On Apodoforcas's spare account, they would post bulletins on and off throughout the month about how nervous they were for someone to "open their message" on December 25th. Surprise, surprise, I very highly speculate that the two (or at least Apodoforcas) had feelings for TheEliBlog.

Spoiler: Furry flirting.

https://kiwifarms.pl/attachments/sc...828661/?hash=a3d07d87079709cc7923f0df085ffadb

Around December 26, this is when things started to fall apart. I obviously don't know what happened between these two, but I can only imagine that TheEliBlog read Apodoforcas's ColorMyTree ornament that had the confession of their feelings to them, and so the truth of Apodoforcas's real age came out. Apodoforcas would slowly go silent and TheEliBlog would make numerous bulletins talking about "muh betrayal" on their own spare and main accounts until about mid or late January. It was wild to see this happen in real-time.

 

[Petrusha the White]

(I hope this doesn't count as necroing since this thread is still on the first page of Community Watch. Give me autism stickers if it is.)

I've been on toyhou.se for a while purely as a character repository, kind of like a mini-wiki for my own OC universe. As far as that goes it's a very functional site, no complaints. I've literally never ventured into the forums, mostly because I kind of guessed already that they're like what's been posted in this thread plenty already.
I do have some observations to make about the purely character side of thing, though. Some stuff has already been mentioned (closed species faggotry, ridiculous prices, reselling, etc.) but here's some things I haven't seen anyone bring up:

1. begging for favs on a character. Super common. Usually they do stuff like art or character raffles (fav to enter!) to bait you. Typically the character they want favs on is super generic and inoffensive or even not an actual character but just a "FAV THIS TO ENTER" placeholder. Later on they change the character to be some trooned out ugly fursona and most people aren't gonna remember to go back and un-fav it after the raffle is over.
2. fake freebies. Really annoying and honestly should be a reportable offense (and maybe it is?), but the moderation at the site is super asleep at the wheel. There are specific site-wide tags for characters that are for sale, for trade, or just being given away. (Yes, there are people who make designs just to give them away for nothing in return. Sometimes they've even decent designs, more often they're good starting points for a decent redesign.) You can easily search these tags but there are a loooot of people who will tag a character as being "free" then clarify in the character's description that they're not. Sometimes they're "technically" free (i.e. free-to-enter raffles, write to adopt where you submit a potential bio and OP gives the character to whoever's bio crams in the most "oppressed" demographics they like best), which is okay imo, but very very often the character is either being traded or sold, either for some bullshit offsite currency (I've seen dA points plenty, and whatever they have on Amino) or just straight up USD. They're clearly using the "free" tag just to get clicks.
3. watermarks. Listen I have an autistic hatred of watermarks which is just me, but people on toyhou.se really take it above and beyond even to the point where people who don't mind watermarks surely think it's excessive. And the problem isn't even that people are adding watermarks to everything but that the site itself is enabling it by auto-generating watermarks. No, it doesn't do that to every image that's uploaded, it's a toggleable option that defaults to no watermark, but the site-native watermarks are incredibly disruptive. You literally cannot see the fucking image under the site-native watermark. It's one thing to have some "graphic design is my passion" tween making a watermark that renders the artwork completely illegible, but it's another thing to have the website you're uploading the image on generate that bullshit for you. (And this pisses me off specifically because I've done some art trades and commissions for other users on that site, and sometimes they upload my artwork for their character and absolutely COVER the image with that stupid ass tiled toyhou.se watermark. I really need to start remembering to tell people to NOT use watermarks when they repost MY artwork.) (Also, why are you watermarking something you didn't draw??)

As a side note, since I barely interact with other users of the site except to trade characters or get commissions, I really have no idea how the general site populace feels about AI generated images/characters. Well, I can guess, considering that's one of those things that falls under the Lockstep Lefty Issue Of The Day, but I should note that a few years ago - before image generation started to get pretty decent and LLIOTD people viewed it as a funny/charming thing instead of the Great Satan - it was quite common for AI-generated characters to be posted. Actually, that's where a lot of freebies came from. I can only imagine that posting a character like that now would get you lynched, but I wonder how many people on that site are out here with shitty eight-fingered AI images in their character galleries still?