The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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I have heard credible rumors that jeets + AI - QA have fucked up the Win 11 source so bad they have no idea what the fuck to do.
A few days ago, I had to scan and also print a few document pages. For no apparent reason, I couldn't print from Win 11. The print job seemed to be never arriving at the printer. Neither LAN nor USB cable did the trick. USB has always worked before.

I tried with Server 2025 (same codebase), which had the exact same problem.

Well, I also have a few Win 10 machines, so I tried one of these. Printed immediately.
 
Just continue to support Windows 10 and quietly let OEMs start selling computers with it preinstalled
That could probably never happen because of the driver situation. Too many drivers out there that were only tested with whatever the latest build of Windows was at the time they were written. Even in the Win10 days there were already drivers marked as "Compatible with anything back to 2015 LTSB" but really "Compatible with whatever version has all the APIs I used, good luck bro".
Given that Microsoft's overriding goal is not to spend any time being the planet's tech support desk, I don't see it happening.
 
That could probably never happen because of the driver situation. Too many drivers out there that were only tested with whatever the latest build of Windows was at the time they were written. Even in the Win10 days there were already drivers marked as "Compatible with anything back to 2015 LTSB" but really "Compatible with whatever version has all the APIs I used, good luck bro".
Given that Microsoft's overriding goal is not to spend any time being the planet's tech support desk, I don't see it happening.
Worst case scenario is that there is a gap where devices made from 2024-2028 are poorly supported while everything before or after works fine, but really if Microsoft is forced to admit that Windows 11 is a disaster and they will be rolling back to 10 then device makers will have to support it.

There might literally be an era where all the companies that made their flagship software into ai slop will be rolling back to the last good version, and that version will support Windows 10.
 
Worst case scenario is that there is a gap where devices made from 2024-2028 are poorly supported while everything before or after works fine, but really if Microsoft is forced to admit that Windows 11 is a disaster and they will be rolling back to 10 then device makers will have to support it.

There’s industrial equipment to this day running Windows XP and even DOS because of some driver their entire company revolves around.

There’s still ATM’s running OS/2 Warp.
 
I hate the ASUS' Armoury Crate.
I honestly hate that you need their proprietary apps to update the bios, or in the case of asus, to fix their faulty firmware they coded it specifically that way so you have to install their bullshit apps.
I still remember my old intel 13th gen strix scar 16 that came with the audio firmware basically broken on purpose and you needed the official asus windows drivers to fix it, basically making audio not work ootb on windows or at all on linux, at least until the chip maker released a driver with the fix,
 
I still remember my old intel 13th gen strix scar 16 that came with the audio firmware basically broken on purpose and you needed the official asus windows drivers to fix it, basically making audio not work ootb on windows or at all on linux, at least until the chip maker released a driver with the fix,
I'll respond to myself, because when I wrote that post I completely forgot the part about asus laptops with hdr displays that come with display edids that purposefully don't advertise the hdr capability to the OS unless you install the asus software, basically if you don't want to install their software or use linux, no hdr for you.
 
Worst case scenario is that there is a gap where devices made from 2024-2028 are poorly supported while everything before or after works fine, but really if Microsoft is forced to admit that Windows 11 is a disaster and they will be rolling back to 10 then device makers will have to support it.

There might literally be an era where all the companies that made their flagship software into ai slop will be rolling back to the last good version, and that version will support Windows 10.
P/E-core support is Win 11 only. That's illustrative of the problem, not the only problem. Win 10 was built for architectures of the mid-2010s. It was as forward-looking as they could make it, but still, so much changed that they ended up having to rip-and-replace big pieces of it, particularly on the security sphere (which, I know, half of you think is a conspiracy to stop you from using Linux Mint).

BUT they can't just roll back to an unfucked version of the Win 11 source where the code was all written by humans. Because that unfucked version had tons of CVEs that have since been fixed. Malware exists now to exploit those CVEs, so none of their enterprise users will tolerate that. Besides, they fired a lot of those programmers and replaced them with AI-enhanced jeets, so the basic problem of "nobody at this company wrote this code or understands it" isn't really fixed.
 
There will be no rollbacks, they will stick with 11 and attempt to fix it, even if it takes 10 years to make it tolerable. Just like 10 took forever to be tolerable too.
It could easily take that long to fix it. One of the problems with AI coding is large amounts of unreadable, unknowable code gets slopped into your code base, and AI-driven fixing may just rip-and-replace enormous amounts of code in one go and still not fix it.
 
It could easily take that long to fix it. One of the problems with AI coding is large amounts of unreadable, unknowable code gets slopped into your code base, and AI-driven fixing may just rip-and-replace enormous amounts of code in one go and still not fix it.
Has anyone thought to tell the AI to not fuck up and when it does, hit it? It worked when my dad did that to me as a kid. You can Venmo me my consulting fee, Micro$oft.
 
It could easily take that long to fix it. One of the problems with AI coding is large amounts of unreadable, unknowable code gets slopped into your code base, and AI-driven fixing may just rip-and-replace enormous amounts of code in one go and still not fix it.
it's spaghetti code on spaghetti code, right when Windows 10 was making progress in removing the old spaghetti code with will written stuff. I expect Microsoft to have two choices: either they abandon everything and start from scratch or fork an open source project, or they roll back to the last good version of Windows and update it. I give it 50/50 odds and a potential future is that they fix the NT kernel and fork KDE Plasma or Cinnamon.
 
I expect Microsoft to have two choices: either they abandon everything and start from scratch or fork an open source project, or they roll back to the last good version of Windows and update it.
How can you be sure about the first scenario when chances are that they would shove thier AI-powered Jeet code right into that codebase just to hack together some of the good Windows 11 changes into 10, given how proud they are about AI vibecoding the current Windows codebase as is?
 
How can you be sure about the first scenario when chances are that they would shove thier AI-powered Jeet code right into that codebase just to hack together some of the good Windows 11 changes into 10, given how proud they are about AI vibecoding the current Windows codebase as is?
They will likely try that first, until they are forced to accept that they simpley cannot vibecode an OS.

Granted i switched to Linux Mint a while back and never looked back. Sometimes I'm curious about Windows but there hasn't been much that would make me actually want to go through the hassle of switching back.
 
it's spaghetti code on spaghetti code, right when Windows 10 was making progress in removing the old spaghetti code with will written stuff. I expect Microsoft to have two choices: either they abandon everything and start from scratch or fork an open source project, or they roll back to the last good version of Windows and update it. I give it 50/50 odds and a potential future is that they fix the NT kernel and fork KDE Plasma or Cinnamon.

What? You think they’re going to try and migrate to something based off Azure Linux? They’d fork it away from Fedora.

Even if they do they would never in a billion years fork KDE. They’d roll their own DE off Wayland.
 
What? You think they’re going to try and migrate to something based off Azure Linux? They’d fork it away from Fedora.

Even if they do they would never in a billion years fork KDE. They’d roll their own DE off Wayland.
Literally all they need to do is give the absolute core and let everyone else do the hard work, then fork or buy the most successful projects

And realistically Cinnamon would be better but KDE is more well known and qt is already compatible with windows.

What I would expect to see is something like Windows Hyper-V server but with all the server stuff stripped out and the barest of window management, and people can bring their own DEs and software and everything.

 
Today marks the two year anniversary from when I quit using Windows for good. I'm here to laugh at all of you faggots that still use this jeeted operating system. Fuck you, suck my dong.

(Ignore all the holes I've punched in my dry wall from spending literal weeks trying to get basic things working on Linux)
 
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