The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Hakase Shinonome]

because shit changes so fucking fast on the most arbitrary of whims.

the GNOME team just arbitrarily decides to break things and let the third-party ecosystem deal with it.

It's definitely the most annoying part of using Gnome. Extensions just get completely BTFO'd by a single update because they changed gdm3.css to just gdm.css. Why? They felt like it. I had so many extensions installed for Gnome 48 only to get BTFO'd by Gnome 50 because "uhh, nah it just doesn't work". Fuck off.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

Telling people to install multiple extensions just to make their desktop environment usable is pure copium.

It's just a suggestion of what I've found to work. I think it is usable beforehand. I've had to use plain GNOME on work machines, and it is fine IMO.

The older Gnome 3 versions were very buggy, though. I was using a CentOS 7 machine on a contract, and that had GNOME from 2014. There were quite a number of annoying window management bugs. These no longer exist.

Gnome 2.x was great - does anyone know what made the gnome foundation go full retard with the complete redesign?

I tried using Mate (which is the existing fork), and I didn't get on with it. I remember liking Gnome 2.X something on SUSE 9.2.

The redesign happened around the same time as the KDE 3-4 fiasco. I didn't exactly like KDE 3, but it was solid and functional.

The original GNOME Fallback session that shipped with CentOS 7 and CentOS 8 were legitimately fantastic stuff... but unless I'm horribly mistaken, GNOME Fallback no longer exists. I would've never attempted fiddling with Dash2Panel if the GNOME team, in their infinite "wisdom," decided to nix a genuinely useful alternative to GNOME Shell. I didn't need GNOME Tweak Tool to give me back my minimise and maximise buttons on the Fallback session. I was able to do much more and have a great time doing it in the fucking fallback session. Why they nixed it is beyond me.

I didn't like that fallback shell. I used to RDP into the machine from a Windows machine, and I had that shell, and I couldn't get on with it. Instead I used Citrix (as horrific as that is) to have proper Gnome.

I dunno man. The GNOME team from 2011 through the present day feel like they started LARPing like coked up studio execs in the 80s enabling each other's bad ideas, followed by recrimination behind closed doors once they come down.

I agree. I do not like the developer at all. However, I do like GNOME.

 

[Taser Confetti]

I tried using Mate (which is the existing fork), and I didn't get on with it. I remember liking Gnome 2.X something on SUSE 9.2.

The redesign happened around the same time as the KDE 3-4 fiasco. I didn't exactly like KDE 3, but it was solid and functional.

I switched to MATE almost immediately when Gnome 3 came out and found it a safe enough refuge. Eventually switched to KDE because I just want shit to work and leave me alone.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

I switched to MATE almost immediately when Gnome 3 came out and found it a safe enough refuge. Eventually switched to KDE because I just want shit to work and leave me alone.

I can't get on with either of them. I like cinnamon, but there are lots of odd bugs, e.g., the screenshot utils had double title bars, and I had network notification come on constantly when logging back in even though I turned it off.
I also use a KVM and have odd issues when switching between my work computer and my actual PC. These don't happen as often on Gnome.

 

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I'm going to be honest guys, what exactly do you DO that makes you pick a fringe distro over Ubuntu, Debian or Arch? I'm 2 weeks into my Debian install with update notifications off and... it's perfect. I don't get it, like what EXACTLY are you doing that makes a fringe OS more worthwhile?

I have been using Linux for more than 20 years and I refuse to allow the failure of Debian and Ubuntu to resist their subversion by disgusting Red Hat pedofreaks making enemy software like systemd and Wayland to stop me using Linux the right way, like I always have. Devuan and AntiX aren't 'fringe distros'- Debian is.