Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

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This is the usual unimaginative nonsense Americans engage in when they don't have a point. I live in a lovely part of the country, and every interaction I have with people is nice, and there is lovely countryside all around me.

As predicted, EV evangelists won't actually engage sensibly with any of the points made to them. They instead suggest you reorganise your entire life around charging the EV.


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Reorganize life?

  • Wake up. Get cleaned up for day. Unplug car. Car drives you somewhere by itself on full “tank”. Repeat every day.
  • Far less maintenance visits to dealers or shops.
  • Most of the limited service is done by mobile techs in my driveway or work parking garage or OTA.

Yeah it didn’t reorganize my life, but it’s very convenient.

The 200A panel install was necessary regardless for my new minisplits and hot tub anyways, and used it as an opportunity to get the lockout panel and exterior plug for the giant backup generator and the outlets outside additional patio lighting, outdoor AV and low voltage lighting for the gardens.

So yeah, the EV has been a net positive and costs me nothing to run.

I still have a 16mpg gas guzzler that is huge and extremely comfy, but it’s already annoying having to maintain brakes, brake fluid, tranny fluid, oil changes, coolant, filters, diff fluid, body grease points, tire rotations, alignments, air suspension, etc plus the $100 fill ups. I don’t want to have to do that for two cars. No way. I was a hair away from buying a new Toyota crown platinum recently. But I just can’t bring myself to have to make all of those dealer visits for two cars. I’ve been eyeballing the X5 e40i more and more. That fucker really speaks to me, but I don’t think I can bring myself to drop $90k on a well optioned one.

Imagine bragging about some power outlet instead of bombing with a 7.3 litre Cummins Power Stroke.

Well… you probably aren’t allowed to have one of those either in bongland or wherever , I’d be more concerned about being beheaded than waging a personal war on EV owners 6000 miles away
 
Reorganize life?
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I don't care what you are doing. The complaint is when anyone says to EV owners such as yourself, "Hey, this doesn't work for me because of X, Y and Z", the response is, "It isn't a problem for me, so there isn't a problem."
Well… you probably aren’t allowed to have one of those either in bongland or wherever ,
You would be surprised at some of the stuff people put together here.

In fact, they are probably cheaper to tax because of a tax loophole. Filling up would be expensive, though.
I’d be more concerned about being beheaded than waging a personal war on EV owners 6000 miles away
As previously stated, I don't care what you do. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what is being said to you.
 
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Know what, I retract my microwave accurate product description, and raise it to glorified chandelier.
 
Any consensus on the Taycan? Secured one as a courtesy vehicle for an upcoming car servicing. A used one costs as much as a new Mercedes CLA EQ...
All I know is they apparently are 800V only, so on chargers that are only 400V(Tesla mostly) it's going to use an on-board converter and depending on the options could be as slow as 50kW charge speed.
 
Several Chinese auto makers like Li Auto, Aito, and Xiaomi, are working on making home charging robots, but it seems like a waste of effort since you still have to make sure the robot itself has power to charge your EV:


Big oooooooffff my car enthusiast brother! They desecrated the name of the official car of white strippers! :stress:

People are still fans of the Eclipse from The Fast and The Furious movies, even with Mitsubishi becoming more and more irrelevant as a car maker in the US. Chinese EVs won't leave the same legacy with their cars.
 
And not surprisingly, there is a black market in China that recycles used EV batteries to repurpose them for electric scooters.

Those black market centers rebuild those batteries as 60V and 72V modules, specifically designed to bypass the 48V standard for batteries. And those hackjob batteries catch fire often too.

And a Xiaomi SU7 gets into an unusual crash by crashing to a dirt mound.

The driver was using the autopilot system at the time, wasn't paying attention to the road, the car's collision avoidance systems didn't do anything, and apparently the road was not open for drivers but the navigation drove through it.
 
Chinese EVs continue to show their lack of quality, with quality issues like literal paper interior pieces, airbag covers that fall apart, nonexistent rust protection, and pencil-thin suspensions that break in very minor collisions:


And BYD now takes up 5% of the UK's market share. I hope that the UK letting their automotive industry to start dying was worth it!
 
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Chinese EVs continue to show their lack of quality, with quality issues like literal paper interior pieces, airbag covers that fall apart, nonexistent rust protection, and pencil-thin suspensions that break in very minor collisions:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=F5wEKknGe_M
And BYD now takes up 5% of the UK's market share. I hope that the UK letting their automotive industry to start dying was worth it!
The rust, shitty plastic and quality control issues are something the European/British car industry went through back in the 1960s-70s. There is a real why there aren't many Abarths around from the 70s/80s still.
As someone that drives an old British car, the biggest problem with the vehicle is often that every part has massive tolerances, and when you are fitting parts, you are supposed to fettle everything. I've been told US cars are similar.
 
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I guess not even Edison Motors is immune to unplanned company shutdowns

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Polestar will stop selling cars in the US due to having Chinese-connected software. The fact that their fellow Geely brand Volvo got approval to keep selling cars solidifies that the Polestar brand was a flop and it isn't worth investing more to get them approved for US sales.

Ferrari has also officially launched the Luce in China for $586k, and all 88 cars were immediately sold. So even the rich that buy Ferraris will still go into "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" mode with this Ferrari in name only.
 
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Ferrari has also officially launched the Luce in China for $586k, and all 88 cars were immediately sold. So even the rich that buy Ferraris will still go into "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" mode with this Ferrari in name only.
They will also lap it up because you have to "grind" your way through the lesser Ferraris to get allocations for the special stuff. You won't get a new V12 car without a sufficiently lengthy history of slurping up all the crap the company puts out.
 
Imagine not having 19.2kW free in your electrical panel(80A at 240V).
Most people don't even need that much capacity unless they have a really long commute without charging at the far end. A lot of EV owners greatly overestimate how much power they actually need, and a lot of electricians are quick to sell them on a panel upgrade they may not need. For the average driver with a halfway decent modern EV, a 20 amp/240 volt circuit will meet their needs. A 20a charger will add about 15 miles per hour, plugged in for 8 hours overnight that's 120 miles of range. Hell, for a lot of people even a level 1 (15a, 120v, adds 3-5 miles per hour) will suffice.
Just out of curiosity do these “rapid chargers” often have lineups for them or are electric vehicles unpopular enough that you can easily find a charger that isn’t in use?
The turnover is pretty quick now that most of them charge idle fees. The days of people leaving their cars at a charger for hours after it's done charging are over. Municipal chargers also usually charge the standard parking fees, too, so there's an added incentive to charge and GTFO.
 
I wrote a bunch of stuff. And then apparently did something else. Anyway, I like 19.2kW, as I only have the one car so when I get home at 30% and need to make sure I have 80-95% by morning then it's gotta be above 12kW. And at that point you may as well go all the way.
 
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