Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[Dante Alighieri]

Orc warlocks, Undead and Blood Elves in the Horde

Orc warlocks are basically their thing, that's how they got the green skin. Undead and Blood Elves being Horde make sense because the Horde is all the races that the Human-led Alliance rejected or drove away. The undead are literally cursed, and the Blood (formerly High) Elves were driven out by their Night Elf brethren and then further castigated by Garithos.

 

[anti SJW]

I run a giant ttrpg club, like 16+ people at my table some nights, that I started around the Stranger Things 5e boom. 90% of these people learned to play rpgs from me and I'm starting to realize how much power that gives me.

They're all playing GURPS right now. Second GURPS campaign actually. We use 3rd edition instead of the current one because as with every rpg I have an austistic preference for a specific middle edition.

I have close to 20 zoomer normies, almost gender parity, playing grognard GURPS.

My old long term group from 40 years ago played a ton of GURPS 3rd edition. Great system.

A couple of my friends from that group submitted items and got credited in GURPS Ultra Tech.

 

[anti SJW]

I can't believe my new character idea was rejected.

 

[Manly_Brony]

Orc warlocks are basically their thing, that's how they got the green skin. Undead and Blood Elves being Horde make sense because the Horde is all the races that the Human-led Alliance rejected or drove away. The undead are literally cursed, and the Blood (formerly High) Elves were driven out by their Night Elf brethren and then further castigated by Garithos.

One of the main enemies of Reign of Chaos that builds its structures on blighted ground and a sinisterish race addicted to magic didn't vibe with Thrall's new and improved, tree hugging, noble savage Horde lore wise. I'll die on this hill. I also remember reading somewhere that the Blood Elves were chosen to become a Horde race to have a conventionally attractive race.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

There's a player in one of my gaming groups who's a big evangelist for Trench Crusade and doesn't seem to be picking up on the fact that no one's interested in the game, its ugly art and minis, or its "lore". I'm not even sure what he wants from us because he doesn't have any armies for us to use.

 

[Ghostse]

There's a player in one of my gaming groups who's a big evangelist for Trench Crusade and doesn't seem to be picking up on the fact that no one's interested in the game, its ugly art and minis, or its "lore". I'm not even sure what he wants from us because he doesn't have any armies for us to use.

Any time he starts to talk about Tranch Poosade, intrupt and ask him if he has any pictures of his painted army.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

Any time he starts to talk about Tranch Poosade, intrupt and ask him if he has any pictures of his painted army.

I asked him that about a Necron army he had brought up a few times, and he became almost bashful and said that he hadn't bought any miniatures yet, he'd only been thinking about it. He also declined to buy a kill team even though we were standing next to the GW shelf.

 

[Ghostse]

asked him that about a Necron army he had brought up a few times, and he became almost bashful and said that he hadn't bought any miniatures yet

That makes sense. Interest rates are sort of crazy right now, he's better off waiting to see if they come down before he takes out a loan against his home to buy a 40K army.

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

My old long term group from 40 years ago played a ton of GURPS 3rd edition. Great system.

GURPS 3rd is good stuff, though every single group I rolled it with greatly simplified the combat system house rules wise. What splats did you primarily use?

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Blizzard actually ripped off Warhammer although I must point out that Games Workshop "heavily borrowed" from a dozen IPs too.

I thought what it was was GW commissioned Blizzard to make a Warhammer game and it was scrapped so Blizzard took what they had and finished it as Warcraft.

 

[anti SJW]

GURPS 3rd is good stuff, though every single group I rolled it with greatly simplified the combat system house rules wise. What splats did you primarily use?

We had different people GM. We did all genres. For fantasy it was the fantasy setting and magic book. Supers was just that book. I forgot what we used for sci fi, but the person that ran sci fi let us use the magic book.

Also for fantasy we designed the races.

We used a grid instead of hexes for combat.

 

[Overly Serious]

In my experience actually normies really take to games where the baseline is the real world, even more than generic fantasy.

I have a strong preference for getting players who've never played before, precisely because they've acquired no bad habits or artificial beliefs. That's especially true for games that are more realistic which tend to be my preference. "Gamers" have all sorts of weird beliefs and they also tend not to be very creative. They expect level-appropriate adventures, they expect conflicts to go according to some standard combat. Non-gamers get behave realistically. They get inventive. I like that.

I once had a similar situation to yours in which I'd more or less introduced RPGs to my friend group and also this was pre-Social Media everywhere and so people weren't really picking up American Gaming "Culture" either. It was just pretty normal people hanging out and playing fun games.

 

[The Ugly One]

I asked him that about a Necron army he had brought up a few times, and he became almost bashful and said that he hadn't bought any miniatures yet, he'd only been thinking about it. He also declined to buy a kill team even though we were standing next to the GW shelf.

Tell that nigger that if he wants to give war gaming a try, Warlord Games has miniature-agnostic rule sets and you can just have a go with popsicle sticks and coins.

 

[Uzumaki]

GURPS 3rd is good stuff, though every single group I rolled it with greatly simplified the combat system house rules wise. What splats did you primarily use?

Not the one you asked, but get the core book and Compendoum I and you'll never seen another rpg manual your whole life. That said:

Shapeshifters weirdly is the book I return to a lot. "Thing turns into other thing under conditions" lets you make so many strange premises, from anime combat forms to voodoo possession.

Ice Age has great stuff for any time characters are in a survival situation with few supplies.

Horror (third edition) is one of the greatest "how to run a genre" books ever written and has a neat ancient aliens meets x-files setting written before ancient aliens was cool.

Cthulhupunk has stats for the entire Cthulhu Mythos. The cyberpunk stuff is just so it wouldn't step on Chaosiums toes and is an afterthought.

Discworld is hilarious and was written in concert with Pratchett. Theres also a Book of the New Sun book, a Lensmen book, and an Uplift book. GURPS has, without question, the best licensed settings of anything.

GURPS Traveller has the best take on the Traveller setting. Yeah I said it.

The "tech" books (Ultratech et al.) are fine and all but I find I almost never reference them. Its a LOT of filler. If you're pirating though for sure grab them. They're rarelt useful, but when they are they're extremely useful.

Honestly though Core and Compendium I. Toolkit for everything.

 

[p1138]

There's a player in one of my gaming groups who's a big evangelist for Trench Crusade and doesn't seem to be picking up on the fact that no one's interested in the game, its ugly art and minis, or its "lore". I'm not even sure what he wants from us because he doesn't have any armies for us to use.

At this point i it comes up, just state the obvious truth about the situation "you keep talking about this, but since you never put any armies together to at least run a demo game, we've all moved on. Want to play some <insert other game here> instead? I've got an army you can try it with"

I asked him that about a Necron army he had brought up a few times, and he became almost bashful and said that he hadn't bought any miniatures yet, he'd only been thinking about it. He also declined to buy a kill team even though we were standing next to the GW shelf.

Even if it's not necrons like they seem to be interested in, do you have a 2nd kill team you can actually demo a game with them using? That way they can see some mechanics, roll some dice, push some models around, and actually try the gaming part?

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

Tell that nigger that if he wants to give war gaming a try, Warlord Games has miniature-agnostic rule sets and you can just have a go with popsicle sticks and coins.

I've suggested Grimdark Future and A Fistful of Lead and he has demurred both times despite me having minis that could easily serve as proxies for a few different 40k factions. Maybe he wants to be "in charge" of a wargaming group and not just a player, so my offer to provide the materials for a game is a non-starter.

Even if it's not necrons like they seem to be interested in, do you have a 2nd kill team you can actually demo a game with them using? That way they can see some mechanics, roll some dice, push some models around, and actually try the gaming part?

I myself don't have any kill teams, 40k is for nerds.

 

[p1138]

I've suggested Grimdark Future and A Fistful of Lead and he has demurred both times despite me having minis that could easily serve as proxies for a few different 40k factions. Maybe he wants to be "in charge" of a wargaming group and not just a player, so my offer to provide the materials for a game is a non-starter.



I myself don't have any kill teams, 40k is for nerds.

It doesn't have to be Kill Team. Like I said <insert other game here> works just as well, and there's plenty of them(especially skirmish games). And if you don't have any kill teams either, then I can see why this person may not have bothered to buy one even though they seem to have an interest.

I also don't see how this guy is going to be running anything much less a wargaming group if they can't even be bothered to have a couple armies/teams/squads whatever to teach some people games for the stuff they do supposedly like, and get other people interested. Do they have a table and terrain to play anything on? From the sound of it I'd question if they even own dice.

It's not too different for someone wanting to get a TTRPG table together. You need the materials to at least be able to run a game, then find some players for a one shot or two, and if everyone likes it do a short campaign and move on from there.

But if they aren't willing to get a couple armies together for the games they do seem to want to play, and then work on getting players when being able to actually show them the game, I can't fathom what their end goal is other than maybe to have a group talking about the idea of playing and never doing it.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

Do they have a table and terrain to play anything on? From the sound of it I'd question if they even own dice.

We meet in a store that has 6x8 wargaming tables. He has offered to let us play in his basement on multiple occasions, and you will be shocked to learn that whenever the current DM and I ask about it, he says that the basement hasn't been cleaned yet and he hasn't built or bought a table appropriate for gaming. Also yes, he only has one set of dice.

Man, this whole complex of hobbies sucks.

 

[Adamska]

There's a player in one of my gaming groups who's a big evangelist for Trench Crusade and doesn't seem to be picking up on the fact that no one's interested in the game, its ugly art and minis, or its "lore". I'm not even sure what he wants from us because he doesn't have any armies for us to use.

My guess is for you guys to cover the costs so he can mooch off and borrow the minis to play it. It's really dumb to do given if he really WANTS to play a minis game he COULD just do Battletech. Yeah, it's a wee bit spergy, but that shit thrives off of using proxies since they don't give a shit. Just add terrain and dice.

Or you could just use the ruleset to play Mordheim with old Fantasy minis lol, since that's what TC basically is if you read the rules. It's just a modernized collection of edits to the old system done by one of the guys who wrote the original set.

 

[p1138]

We meet in a store that has 6x8 wargaming tables. He has offered to let us play in his basement on multiple occasions, and you will be shocked to learn that whenever the current DM and I ask about it, he says that the basement hasn't been cleaned yet and he hasn't built or bought a table appropriate for gaming. Also yes, he only has one set of dice.

Man, this whole complex of hobbies sucks.

I don't know if I'd say the whole pile of hobbies sucks, but it sounds like you've got a "friend" who wants to get people into their mess of a basement, talk about tranch crusade, and isn't actually interested in doing anything to get their supposed intended goals accomplished.

Someone is eventually going to end up captured in this person's basement while they dance around with their dick tucked between their legs like Buffalo Bill with Goodbye Horses playing in the background. Don't let it be you.