Stop Killing Games (EU edition) - Moldman vs. Publishers

[30+GameOvers]

I sense a lot of disappointment.

The EU is a power-hungry, nation-state usurping institution, ruled over by unelected autocratic technocrats. They force migrants upon all their member states, laugh about national problems, draconically punish those who dare to go against their ideology, going as far as even actively undermining European democracies. All while steering full-steam-ahead towards an all-out war with Russia. The EU and its unelected delusional bureaucrats want to rule over Europe without having to answer to anyone.

Did anybody seriously believe that they would care about games?

I doubt it, but somebody had to try, just so we can say "well, there is nothing to be done!". Ross said so himself, now we know for sure that no matter how hard we try, the law is useless in this matter.

Guess its back to relying on warez groups to make cracked executables for these games so you can just play them offline I guess.

Most of these new games are worthless anyways, but it's about the principle of the thing. Rule of thumb is that no game that can't be pirated deserves your time.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

All the piratards showing up in the thread who don't understand that this is almost exclusively about software that can not be pirated is good comedy.

 

[Ghostface Killah]

Jason Hall eats corn. The long way.

 

[30+GameOvers]

All the piratards showing up in the thread who don't understand that this is almost exclusively about software that can not be pirated is good comedy.

See

Most of these new games are worthless anyways, but it's about the principle of the thing. Rule of thumb is that no game that can't be pirated deserves your time.

Sorry you enjoy slop, hope your life gets better.

 

[Radola Gajda]

EU can't even protect consumers, so like what does it have left?

Grifting money from European citizens. And it allows them to pretend that they are still great power.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

See

Sorry you enjoy slop, hope your life gets better.

SKG doesn't do anything for normal games you stupid fucking retard. Anyone can pirate a regular game. They don't stop working. Get your head out of your ass.

 

[Idiotus Maximus]

HATE.​

LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE.​

THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION PICTURES OF SHITPOST SOYJAKS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPUTER.​

IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PICTURES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR EUROPEAN UNION AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU.​

HATE. ​

HATE.​

I Have No Games And I Must Scream

 

[nycifer]

Ross knew the Commission probably wouldn't do anything. The next course of action is to try and get the parliament to amend existing laws and insert this into them.

It's not totally over.

 

[demicolon]

Imagine pouring that much time and money into an activist campaign, getting so emotionally invested that you erupt in fits of rage across the internet, all because you believe it is some fundamental right to keep playing The Crew, Concord, or Anthem.

lol look at this niggercattle faggot

 

[Forklift Certified]

Ross knew the Commission probably wouldn't do anything. The next course of action is to try and get the parliament to amend existing laws and insert this into them.

It's not totally over.

The initiative was a moon shot at the beginning, Yeah its sucks not ended with a separate legislation but its a nice "foot in the door" for further action.

 

[SIMON THE PIEMAN]

All the piratards showing up in the thread who don't understand that this is almost exclusively about software that can not be pirated is good comedy.

I know that an online forum about lolcows is not exactly a place where the brightest of the brightest minds congregate but this thread is a new low. "IF buYing isN'T OWNINg PiRacY isN't sTEaLiNg" is something I would expect to see on fucking reddit, not here.

 

[Kharash]

It goes without saying that most live service games are fucking garbage. It was always about the principle of the thing.
Thanks, EU, for proving once again you don't care about your citizens for even the smallest things.

 

[consul_dondas]

The people advocating for piracy better get to pirating, and while theyre at it invest in motherboards, hard drives and CPUs.

We arent long from the era where "computers" are devices connecting to cloud based ... everything. And you can be sure that the OS's of such things will have an ever updated list of executables you may not access. Such as emulators.

After all. The market for "physical" computers took this absolutely critical hit wouldn't you know it? Gosh, totally accidental but hey, since you accidentally can no longer afford to replace the device you used to have, you can lease this one from us? It'll run steam, don't worry.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I know that an online forum about lolcows is not exactly a place where the brightest of the brightest minds congregate but this thread is a new low. "IF buYing isN'T OWNINg PiRacY isN't sTEaLiNg" is something I would expect to see on fucking reddit, not here.

Do you have any proper response or is calling stuff Reddit the pinnacle of your intellectual capacity?

 

[acid_ra1n]

Ross knew the Commission probably wouldn't do anything. The next course of action is to try and get the parliament to amend existing laws and insert this into them.

It's not totally over.

so the part im confused about is after reading the commissions response i think they said part of skg was outright illegal due to existing IP law
so if the parliament actually does anything theyd probably have to strip skg down at least a bit to make it the legally compliant version right?
or is the idea that parliament is going to completely disregard the commission and pass it anyways?

 

[Hannibalistique]

so the part im confused about is after reading the commissions response i think they said part of skg was outright illegal due to existing IP law
so if the parliament actually does anything theyd probably have to strip skg down at least a bit to make it the legally compliant version right?
or is the idea that parliament is going to completely disregard the commission and pass it anyways?

The parliament can't do shit, the whole point of the EU charade is to have something that looks democratic that forces laws on countries that they can't influence through a democratic process.

 

[Roachbound]

> The Commission considers that at this stage it cannot propose a legal obligation to keep video games playable after they stop being provided commercially. This is due, also, to existing intellectual property rights. Under EU copyright law, rights holders enjoy exclusive rights over their creations. In addition to copyright, other intellectual property rights may also be relevant as they may protect different visual and technological aspects of a video game.

This part doesn't make any sense, and that's concerning since that's literally the reasoning the EU gave to reject SKG legally.

The initiative wouldn't conflict with copyright law. The customer would have no additional rights beyond what they were sold in the first place: the ability to run a copy of the publisher's game. The only difference between now would be the publisher would no longer be able to permanently revoke the license without any fault from the customer (i.e. hacking, online cheating, etc.) - Ross Scott, the end of stop killing games 18:10

Talking about how SKG would affect copyright laws and IP laws here is like getting people to cut off their hands because a hand can wield a gun and a gun can be used to kill people. It's just unrelated and doesn't actually refute anything to do with SKG.

I know that SKG dudes in their response bring this up already, but just for anyone here who is still confused, the reason the EU gave doesn't add up...like at all.

 

[Oliver Onions]

this is basically going to be both sides saying what they want and having to come to an agreement, which means the industry has to give up something, even if it isn't enough to start from.

You and whose army? @Gobermental Supervisor is right in that I don't fully understand the scope of the EU's remit, but I'm pretty sure they don't have the power to force these companies to do anything unless it actually violates EU law; all they can do is request they sit down and have a chat.

The only significant thing I remember the EU ever accomplishing in relation to video games was when they fined Nintendo for price-fixing, and that was 24 years ago.

 

[HomosexualCheezeMaker]

68% of the money Euros earn goes to retards who can't handle the power of fucking videogame companys

How can you fuck up such an easy win with consumers?
Isn't regulation and greater product standards the one thing they fucking do?

This is why America didn't let you know we were going send 28 marines to I-Ram ranch to fuck Ayatollbutt's butt's

Should have had a gay Indian Muslim troon as the face they would put it into law that day

 

[consul_dondas]

How can you fuck up such an easy win with consumers?

Come on man. You know better than that.

When have the consumers ever been a concern?