I say this every time a new remake of a beloved old game comes out, and pin this when the Ocarina of Time remake comes out in the fall, but you'll NEVER get anyone to play or convince them something is bad if its passed a certain generational gap because the reality is that if Star Fox 64 was that much of a sacred gem more people would have played it over years instead it just resorted to becoming ancient reference meme.
This has literally been the gaming subforum for like 3 to 4 years now.
More people have played it over the years though! There's literally been VC ports and a remaster on the 3ds on top of star fox zero which was another remaster/remake of 64 that added some elements from 2 on top of the gimmicks. I think this is the reason why the price on various versions of the game haven't spiked as much as other Nintendo games or other star fox games in the series. There's just so many ways to get it legally. It's like a stranger version of what happened with F zero where they just stopped making games in the series but unlike F zero the most popular game in the series has had several ports and remakes.
Both are good but really mild fucking criticism of the handling of the more recent one's visuals and english version shouldn't be met with whatever this is. Like yeah people are gonna play the other one but this one has a multiplayer mode people really seem to like.
Most people probably are. What's this remake, that nobody actually asked for, even selling?
That 3D version is long out of print and pretty much obsolete and Zero was a critically and financial flop so their decision was based entirely on that and the performance of the franchise up to that point. You're right in that yes you can easily play Star Fox 64 legally on NSO right now but the average normies would be put off by so many elements from it off the bat that straight up remaking it is the better alternative even though they're the exact same game. Its a weird mentality but I get it I feel this is the right way to go about it then the Resident Evil 4 Remake, Metal Gear Delta , Silent Hill 2 way of just changing the very framework of the game to applease zoomies.
How? If you buy it and play it, it works. If "out of print" is your thing then like that's every game from over 7-10 years ago.
I don't know what elements would put people off compared to the new one. They both do the exact same stuff for the most part to the point I've seen some people complaining about it having less than zero (which is kind of funny wording wise).
I asked for this remake. This is exactly what I wanted. Buckle up for Ocarina! We're gonna have a good few months!
Anybody who would be turned off from playing the original because 'It looks too old' doesn't deserve to play it. That mentality is exactly how we got FFVII Remake. All of these Advent Children fags who loved the characters because they'd been in Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts and all that shit, but never touched the original because 'it looks too old' are what convinced the hacks at Square Enix to make that regurgitated slop that's neither sequel nor remake and completely misses the point of the original
The 3D version is the hardest to get legally unless you still have access to eshop or can find a used copy. There's no real reason to play it over the remake unless you like the shitty 3D gimmick or hearing the returning actors try and fail to redo their lines
How about the fact that the game is old as shit and doesn't have a steady frame rate which is a must nowadays? And the game being too short for people who cant get into multiple playthrough arcade rail shooters.
More people have been talking about this remake than anything Star Fox related in years. It did its job.
And thats why the franchise is in its current state. The unfortunate reality is that if you don't change you just remain stagnant only appealing to the same few oldfags who hate everything new. I hate FFVII Remake and Nomura's Time Jannie faggotry but ot doesn't hurt the existence of the original games just as Star Fox Command's existence doesn't hurt 64's.
No from what I've seen of the ff7 shit from watching a friend play through it it's clearly one of the many things the last decade or so that have done that "it's marketed as a remake but is actually asecret sequel" thing. Very few things that have done this have actually done them well and I have no clue what started the trend but it's something that's in Movies, TV shows, and games and the one time I've seen it actually done ok was that gridman anime a friend sat me through because it basically was like "yeah this is just the guy from the original live action superhero thing helping someone again"
Then you're about the only one. You see plenty of people doing mock-ups of 'Ocarina but as a modern game', 'Majora's Mask but as a modern game', 'Mario 64 but as a modern game'. Plenty of people saying 'They should remake Ocarina but it should look like Twilight Princess' or 'They should remake Ocarina but it should be open world like Breath of the Wild'
Fuck you. People like you are exactly why Nintendo has such (deserved) contempt for their fans. They know they can shovel out whatever low effort garbage they want and you will still buy it, saying things like 'You need to reintroduce the game to a new audience' and 'If I don't buy it, then Nintendo won't make any new Star Fox games'
No it isn't. Firstly, I can still buy it on Amazon here in the UK and secondly, it's not as if the game had a limited print run. It was one of the core 3DS titles and it went Player's Choice. There's millions of copies out there.
Because it's 'new'. No shit people are talking about it
They haven't changed. They've just remade the same old game with a newer, uglier, coat of paint. They are staying stagnant.
It actually does. It parasitises the original while being mostly inferior to it. While the FFVII Remake isn't as bad as some examples because the original is still widely available, it still replaces the original in the discourse and the search query results and is, therefore, harming the original
Why would a clearly distinct sequel that flopped ever hurt the original? The only way that ever happens is when it causes people to realise the original wasn't really that good, and that's not the case with Command, which was just the all-range mode of Star Fox 64 but the entire game
Had you told me this back in April I never would've gotten involved in this thread to begin with. There's not much use in telling me now, I've already opened up Pandora's box and there's no way it's closing anytime soon.
I wanna hear em say monkey more if they do another remake they better let them say monkey again
Online multiplayer is new! They could have leaned into that element more I think. Already covered that though.
I wouldn't say command made people "realize the original wasn't good" or whatever. From what I've seen of command gameplay wise it's very sloggy with navigating menus and loading screens just to do short dogfight segments and then back to the menus to set things up to do that again.
You'll never be satisfied then.
The response to this Star Fox game is utterly baffling. Ocarina of Time is going to be amazing.
You can't buy it from a local store unless its a second hand market or a used copy at a thirft shop or ebay. There's no reason to play the 3D version when its worse in every way than the remake.
You literally said that people were playing the 64 version over the new one and wasn't even sure if it was selling well.
They have. They expanded. Added new modes story, and control options. Everything else is subjective but they did do a lot to change this version of the story while keeping the core gameplay loyal.
How? Remake is its own thing and has nothing to do with the original game even Square treats them both separately.
Because it literally has the endorsement of the creator people just choose to ignore it.
