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"You need to clean the old ass coffee machine that regularly leaks hot chocolate that congeals like cement on the interior. No, we're not going to give you stronger product to use besides watery blue and pink spray and a super stiff dirty toothbrush to scrub with"

Me: Okay *cleans within last half hour of shift while serving customers in-between* Okay, I'm done

OCD manager: Hrmm, this could be better. *starts scrubbing parts with brush and/or own nails for 20 mins* This part's still a bit dirty underneath, and this.."

Me. For the love of god you're never happy. You're the only one who scrutinizes it like this. NO ONE HAS DIED OR GOTTEN SICK IN THE YEARS WE'VE HAD THIS MACHINE REEEEEEEEE
 
opportunity for advancement is now zero despite having been on a rocket track.). Trust has been obliterated, loyalty is in the basement, elbows are sharp, and even senior leadership has no say in the soul-crushing edicts that keep coming from the c-suite.
Do you work for the same company as me?

Whats totally nuts is apparently our C-suite is really confused about why everyone is so unhappy and they get a round of resignations every time they impose more bullshit. They've literally had recruitment agencies refuse to advertise jobs under the conditions they were offering and still not got the message.

You are right that I have a reliable partner, he is being amazing. I'm trying to disentangle mentally, too much of mhy identity is in my job. I'll do what I can to not fuck over my colleagues in the same position. Having an exit plan is helping, even if I haven't figured out the details.

What.I don't know is how you figure out whether a new prospective employer is just as bullshit, there's Glassdoor and vibes when you go into interview but they'll be putting on their best face. Leaving one crappy job to end up in an even worse one would be utterly soul destroying.

I know all jobs have some bullshit but any pointers for finding ones where the management isn't actively malevolent would be useful.
 
Last year I lost my job in IT. I applied to some jobs and got interviews, but no offers. After a few months, anxious about my future in IT, I signed up for a CNA (certified nursing assistant) program, planning to apply for nursing school since I already have a bachelor's degree. I knew the work is notoriously difficult and stressful, but at least I'd never be out of work.

I absolutely hated it. I hated having to get demented old people out of bed and fight them to change their diapers. I hated being insulted and groped. I hated hearing the same people scream for hours every day because they had lost their minds and didn't know where they were. I hated my trashy, mean colleagues who also hated their jobs. I tried to comfort myself knowing that in two years I'd have an RN license and would at least be making a lot of money and have a more prestigious and technical position with less grunt work, but I was also terrified knowing that the stakes would be higher and people's lives would be in my hands.

On particularly bad days I applied to other IT and IT-adjacent jobs, but having lost hope a long time ago, I never expected to hear back, especially as my resume gap grew larger. But some time ago I got an email from the hiring manager of a healthcare company for an IT position I'd applied to. He was impressed by my extensive experience in healthcare IT and wanted to interview me. It went well, but I wasn't surprised when the ATS indicated the position was filled. But a week later, he emailed me personally to say that I had been the runner-up for the job and they had a similar position with different hours.

By the grace of God I now have a position that pays higher than my last job and is full-time with benefits (160 hours of PTO a year), fully remote, and probably has a lot of room for advancement given how large the company is. I will never take my comfy 9-5 for granted again and am planning to actually get some IT certs on top of my degree, because if I have to go back to nursing I'm gonna do a flip. Respect to anyone who works in patient care. You have to be a very special person to do that.
 
especially as my resume gap grew larger
I have been told by someone in recruitment that if you say you've been caring for a sick relative, you get a pass. In your case its not even that far off the mark. I'm glad you found a decent new job.

Mines just more bullshit, I made a suggestion today that I can't see how it isn't massively advantageous for the team and it was ignored. They are prioritising work that makes me sackable- i.e. documenting fucking everything.

I lost yesterday afternoon because a script that pulls down an external dataset shat itself when someone made a tiny change to one of its fields. Then Copilot trolled me by giving 4 progressively better solutions (according to it) that were all identical to what I was doing originally. Can't see LLMs replacing us yet
 
lost yesterday afternoon because a script that pulls down an external dataset shat itself when someone made a tiny change to one of its fields.
I'm genuinely impressed that you didn't kill this person. The last time I had something similar happen (this brilliant person who won't stop fucking testing in prod and broke a critical API on a Friday afternoon) my fitbit thought I was exercising due to heart rate.
i.e. documenting fucking everything.
I have had the exact opposite challenge. My team has had almost 100% turnover two years in a row and the first team left almost nothing. I've been having to learn almost everything from scratch but at least this spring I got to start seeing the fruits of my labor. My new coworker is actually great but I'm also feeling the vulnerability of replaceableness.
 
testing in prod
Oh my fucking lord what a fucking tit. It was super annoying but I worked on a team once where the CI was such that it rejected (or at least massively moaned at you, it was over a decade ago so memory is hazy) any pushes that didn't pass extremely comprehensive testing. It also enforced flake8 and I still want to die thinking about it.

I'm glad you're seeing the fruits of your labour.

The dumb thing about my replaceableness is I've been told my position is a 6 month hire, my notice is 3 months. My workload is more than is reasonable for one person so they'd be 4-5 months behind by the time they replaced me. More external data formats and APIs could be changed in that time, making the documentation obsolete. Their best option is to do what I've been asking for years, hire a mini-me.

Anyone who has been in a job for a long time isn't really replaceable, You can document how you do x,, y and z but you can't capture years of company and project specific experience.
 
Seething mad about this client who keeps lying to us about what he did. There's no benefit to it, just fucking tell me how much damage you did so I can help your lawyer prepare the best response, you dumb motherfucker. All he does is waste my time since, in the natural course of my work, I'm going to be examining every available record so we can know exactly what [governmental entity] can prove on their side.

He's also the type who wont stop calling me to rant about how everyone is out to get him and he's going to sue the pants off [governmental entity] despite him being the one that chose to fuck around and find out with a uncomplicated legal agreement.

My work is mostly consulting in my little niche and rarely gets entangled with legal stuff but god it is never, never worth it.
 
I edit wedding photos. It isn't much, it pays well considering it technically is part-time and is the closest I got to justifying my degree with a normie job.

I used to supplement it with a full 8 hour shift as a wagie to maintain my family and keep my own dreams alive. They did not appreciate my sacrifices and had to quit after I was legit scared I was going to die. What convinced me to look for myself is that my boss asked me if I could be second camera at local events.

My editing job is to copy and paste presets on 400-500 photos a day on Lightroom while trying to match what my boss, the photographer, did for reference. Then provided I'm fast enough or he is busy I have to edit them through Photoshop. I'm also tasked with running the semi-abandoned Pinterest profile, setting SEO for the blog when we get a portfolio wedding and campaigns for selling old photos, occasionally check translations and assemble furniture. Earlier this year I became in charge of photo sessions we do at the studio.

My boss is a ditzy himbo. He is nice and personable but he constantly forgets shit and makes me work double.

Yesterday I arrived at work to find out that he had deleted half the gallery I had edited because I committed the mistake of editing on a SSD he was going to take for a holiday after he told me to edit on said SSD. This meant I had to edit the same wedding three times: first time he gave me vague indications as to what he didn't like, second is what he deleted and today I managed to edit the whole thing. This happened roughly a month after I did delete a catalogue and got scolded fo assuming the thing was finished after seeing it uploaded almost a month after I edited it. I was allowed to edit on his computer which is a newer Mac compared to mine and I could notice it had a different tone and exposure fidelity on top of being faster.

I don't hate my job but my family wants me to quit and find a normie job with benefits. Assuming I've to quit, I guess I'll just go back to getting certifications out of spite.
 
Year out of college. Boss runs things on a knife's edge of malpractice, everything is jacked to the tits, and forgetting one little thing can turn into a significant, intense problem by the time its discovered 2 months later. Not experienced enough to leave or pivot into a different career, wouldn't even know where to go, and need this on my resume for future career prospects. I almost vomit from anxiety every morning, and I stay after every night to triple check everything. Don't make enough for this to be worth it. Slowly coming to the conclusion that living is just constant, hair-loss-inducing stress and will be for the remainder of my adult life.
 
I've been working remotely for my company for the past 3 years. Our parent company is Indian based, but it's a worldwide company. I can tell you from personal experience, pajeets are (one of) the dumbest groups of people that for some reason were put on a false pedestal for educational excellence. We would have a system that works perfectly fine, then our pajeet higher ups will come in and say "no, no, you need to do it this way", basically taking what we were doing before, but adding, redundant and convoluted extra steps that of course needs tweaking (which they make us figure out), but the ends results are the same as the original system. They love to micromanage a lot, too.

We have this one pajeet "higher up", I have no idea what his position is exactly, but he randomly pushed his way into our projects like he owns the place, but I don't think he even knows what we do or what our projects consist of, he will request us to do something that doesn't align or make sense with the means of the projects. Btw, we do have a head of project lead, but she's, imo (and all close co-workers agree), is NOT qualified to be in that position, she's a door mat and she doesn't really have any knowledge of how these systems work, I have a feeling she kissed ass to the original head of project lead and that's how she got there. The original head of project lead was great, she would actually sit in on client calls and asked questions that she seemed to understand, I believe she had an actual background in software. Unfortunately, she left because apparently the company wanted her to do things that she didn't agree with, and since then the company has been a shit show.

Earlier this year, they also changed how we do our timecard system and paystubs, we went from a semi-monthly paystubs to bi-weekly paystubs, which is fine I guess, downside is the checks are smaller, but it seems we get paid more frequently, instead of waiting to get paid on the 1st and 15th of each month. However, this new system for some reason changed how we log in/log out and submit time cards, we basically have to multiple times on different systems. We log in/log out on two different systems each day (this also includes logging our lunch period), we also submit timecards on two different systems, on one system we submit timecards when the pay period is up, on the other systems (salesforce) they want us logging 8 hrs each day with separate lines (when before all this bullshit, we would just do one line with 8 hrs in each slot), they want us to submit that days timecard each morning. It's been a few months since they started this system, so I'm used to it now, but damn it's just multiple step bullshit and hoops you have to go through, it's a waste of time when our old system worked just fine (log in, log out, submit weekly timecards). Originally, we thought added this new website for timecards we would be getting away from salesforce, but nope we are still using salesforce for some fucking reason.

The new thing earlier this week, as everyone was logging out of course, HR sent out an email stating that we were no longer getting a paid 30 minute lunch break and that they would be making up for that 30 minutes by adding it to our work day, I.E instead of clocking out at 5PM, we clock out at 5:30PM (and ofc we don't have a choice on WHEN we take our lunch breaks, it's exactly at noon everyday). Trying to protect their bottom line I guess, money. Which is real fucking annoying, because we're on downtime a lot, but when we're busy, we're busy for weeks, it just depends on what the engineers have cooked up for us.

Can't complain too much, because working remotely has always been a dream of mine, and I also try to do side hustles while on downtime. I was very optimistic about this company in the beginning, but they do some dumbass shit every few months that makes me feel like they could pull the rug out whenever it suits them. Of course they go through lay-offs like most companies do, but it's very sudden and abrupt, EOD they randomly will send you that email and within a few hours you completely kicked from the system, no goodbyes, no passing of responsibilities to the underlings, but of course if you decide to leave, they expect a 2 week notice 🖕. Overall, the pay is fine for my living situation and I don't have to leave my house every morning, so I put up with it.

Rant over.
 
Just got a new job, and WOW the onboarding experience was so bad it makes me want to kill everyone who ever worked in HR. Literally the last two weeks could've been done in one afternoon in-person. It was so unbelievably disorganized, inefficient, took several programs and websites when it all could have been done so much easier. My upcoming job isn't even that important, it's something so minor and low-tech that a retarded amish child could be trained to do it. What the fuck.
Just enjoy two weeks of doing nothing
Trust has been obliterated, loyalty is in the basement, elbows are sharp, and even senior leadership has no say in the soul-crushing edicts that keep coming from the c-suite.
I would laugh if we worked for the same company. Ours just got reorganised in a specific way that my division is now trying to prove it’s fiscally tight by …. Not hiring anyone. This I’m sure will net the guy who runs it some headpats and a big bonus but the people actually doing the work are crumbling under the stress . I feel like someone’s stabbing me in the stomach and my face has started twitching today. Multiple times today I have sort of frozen up, unable to think or speak with the sheer overwhelm. I came in to 362 new emails this morning and have spent six hours in calls with people, while another hundred or two piled up. It’s totally unsustainable and it’s making me sick.
Every similar company is the same right now.
 
Just enjoy two weeks of doing nothing

I would laugh if we worked for the same company. Ours just got reorganised in a specific way that my division is now trying to prove it’s fiscally tight by …. Not hiring anyone. This I’m sure will net the guy who runs it some headpats and a big bonus but the people actually doing the work are crumbling under the stress . I feel like someone’s stabbing me in the stomach and my face has started twitching today. Multiple times today I have sort of frozen up, unable to think or speak with the sheer overwhelm. I came in to 362 new emails this morning and have spent six hours in calls with people, while another hundred or two piled up. It’s totally unsustainable and it’s making me sick.
Every similar company is the same right now.

PL: We don't! I just searched the company directory and absolutely no otters! ;)

But I think we are both with mammoths. Mine is in cut cut cut mode* - and for the rest it's do more! Harder, better, stronger, faster! And no pudding!

*Hiring in my area of the company is a dead letter. Likewise promotions.

We are busy "transforming" the company, and yes, the CEO and others will come out of it with another 8 figures in the bank. On the one hand, I get the vision - but on the other, maybe try not to make your employees suffer quite so much. Or at least be less indifferent (or malicious) about it.

I can relate to that twisted stomach. And the scale of 500 emails in a day, a good portion of which I am sure need at least to be digested, even if not acted on, is colossal as a daily norm. How much independence do you have to prioritize what's on your plate/ configure expectations? Your work is clearly high stakes, but it can't go on forever like that, and you need backing and a plan.

How much noise (disciplined, quantified, but urgent noise) have you made? ...And I won't be surprised if the answer is "a lot," and it fell on deaf ears, but I have to ask. You shouldn't have to bear the brunt of everything. Do your higher-ups not understand that your failure is their failure? Suffering in rotting silence is not (not always) the only alternative to exploding or crumpling. How are you with boundaries and accurate assignment of accountability (I'm assuming you're not a one-woman division)? Are there any things that could be transitioned or rerouted to be someone else's problem? Any stupid processes clogging your work life with excessive administrative steps/ tasks that could be streamlined?

And to be clear, not laying resolving anything at your feet or suggesting you have power you may not. Just calling on the spirits of strategic corporate existence for some reasonable relief. At a minimum, your superiors need to be running interference for you and everyone below or to the side of you; that's their job.

And it goes without saying that this is not how your work life should be. So maybe the threshold question/ perspective is whether there is relief on the horizon or no end in sight. That's apparently not able to be a people (hiring) issue, so what about the projects? If you have un-meetable (reasonably meetable, not kill-yourself-meetable) expectations/ deadlines, raise the flag early and smartly - lay the accountability where it belongs. Something has to give, and it can't always be you.
 
How much independence do you have to prioritize what's on your plate/ configure expectations?
My ratio of power:responsibility is all off. I have entire responsibility but am unable to make certain decisions like adding extra staff out of budget. I’m supposed to bend over and keep the client happy but then my management will punish me for any over budget anything. So the message is keep them happy, start all this work without financial coverage but you will be beaten for it later. I hate it.
How much noise (disciplined, quantified, but urgent noise) have you made? ...And I won't be surprised if the answer is "a lot," and it fell on deaf ears, but I have to ask.
Lots. At multiple and at increasingly escalated and higher levels. I know why they won’t give me people (I will PL no more than ‘retarded goals higher up mean no money for Otterly no matter what’) and I know that this round will fail as well, but I will be covering my arse and telling them directly what will fail and why and what is needed to make it work. When it fails which it will, I will then point to it. I hate working like this. I just want things to work
Do your higher-ups not understand that your failure is their failure?
Unless they’re even more stupid than they appear they should yes. But then they are bean counters. My successes are their successes - the CEO was bragging about how mi ch this client loves us due to changes my team had made, and I get zero appreciation, a 1% raise (pay cut ofc with with inflation) and worked 25% more hours than I’m paid for (and punished if my budgeted hours are excessive.)
At a minimum, your superiors need to be running interference for you and everyone below or to the side of you; that's their job.
this IMO is the other critical failure point. I have a good team (a couple of hundred people, big project, global) but poor immediate senior level. There isn’t much I can do directly about that, I am walking a line that tries to keep them on side and not undermine them while supporting them to support me. Which frankly is daft because I should not be babysitting someone at that level. That’s the job I want and I would do that job well. But I do not have that job. I act like I do have that job in all dealings with senior management because why not
raise the flag early and smartly -
Already doing it. I am escalating repeatedly with very clear ‘I need x or y will fail. Please support’ messaging and all this is documented in multiple systems.
The really frustrating thing is that the cost of all these senior people’s time they spend in these meetings must vastly outweigh the cost of the resources I’m asking for. I have pointed that out too, which doesn’t go down well because it skirts the idea that they’re all fucking useless and we are too top heavy as an organisation. They’re cutting whole swathes of billable roles and yet management seems to expand at the same time. That’s not a good sign. This race to the bottom dependence on cost cutting is a bad sign.
I spoke with some of my programming and data monkeys yesterday and they are also understaffed to a degree I have literally never seen before, so this isnt just my team it everyone and that’s a bad sign.
It’s a shame I can’t PL more because having spoken to you previously I know you’d be a good person to talk through all this in more detail with.
It’s just immensely frustrating, and something is going to break. It’s just how the industry is, I need to plan some kind of move but I have some specific constraints on me that narrow my options
 
90 Degrees out and the school I work at has no adequate AC or Fans. So, the children are going into virtual learning and no one is supposed to be in the building. The kicker is that this morning my boss emailed me telling me I still needed to be on site in person. With no way to cool off.
My job is in I.T. I can do everything I do in person at home from my computer. It feels a little backhanded.
 
Just enjoy two weeks of doing nothing
I wish I could've enjoyed it. The dread of not knowing whether or not I was doing the right thing, if I was employed, and knowing I NEEDED a paycheck was too much. The ironic part is I had to quit that job a few weeks ago. I'm back to doing nothing and I still can't enjoy it.* Maybe I'm just a sadsack lol.
I don't want to PL, but my dad was in a motorcycle accident a few weeks ago and has been slowly dying in the hospital. My family's down to one vehicle, which my mom needs for her job and for visiting dad. So basically I had no means of getting to/from work anymore, and now I'm so traumatized about losing my dad that I'm constantly sobbing and/or jumping at every little noise. I didn't plan on staying at that job forever but goddamn, I thought I'd stay more than a few weeks. I'm so humiliated and ashamed.
 
I wish I could've enjoyed it. The dread of not knowing whether or not I was doing the right thing, if I was employed, and knowing I NEEDED a paycheck was too much. The ironic part is I had to quit that job a few weeks ago. I'm back to doing nothing and I still can't enjoy it.* Maybe I'm just a sadsack lol.
I don't want to PL, but my dad was in a motorcycle accident a few weeks ago and has been slowly dying in the hospital. My family's down to one vehicle, which my mom needs for her job and for visiting dad. So basically I had no means of getting to/from work anymore, and now I'm so traumatized about losing my dad that I'm constantly sobbing and/or jumping at every little noise. I didn't plan on staying at that job forever but goddamn, I thought I'd stay more than a few weeks. I'm so humiliated and ashamed.
Oh that’s awful, I’m so sorry. Don’t be humiliated, you have done nothing wrong. You’ve experienced and are experiencing something genuinely traumatic and awful and it’s totally understandable that you feel unable to manage. Dont add beating yourself up to the terrible grief you’re feeling, you don’t deserve that.
 
Good to know everyone else hates their jobs. Not just me.

I try to go to trade shows a lot. I get paid for the mileage and it takes a few hours at most.

One time driving back from one of them, a dog ran across the road and i hit it at 60 mph and killed it. Took over an hour to resolve with the police.
 
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