Sonic Movie Thread - From a Disastrous Teaser/Trailer to Not That Bad a Movie; Got a Sequel

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I just saw it, I don't know how anyone who saw the first doesn't think the second one is better. It's not like, high cinema or anything, but it was way more ambitious. The first movie felt like a typical Hollywood adaptation, and Sonic is also there. This was actually a proper movie about Sonic.

I'm curious about one thing.

They said there was no way Robotnik could have survived the fall, but Dr. Stone was shown alive. The person I saw the movie with told me Jim Carrey was taking a break from acting, if not retiring.

Here's what I'm thinking. Dr. Robotnik canonically dies in order to be replaced with the proper Dr. Eggman and his design in the Archie comics. In the middle of the movie, we see Dr. Stone looking at other versions of Eggman, but it's never clearly explained what he was doing. I think in the next movie, the Eggman we have isn't going to be the original Eggman. This also gives Jim Carrey an out if he chooses not to continue the franchise.
 
1: Soyed out to the references, was surprised that there at least 2 (or 3) Fleetway references (Robotnik’s rebirth, “Chaos” Robotnik and emeralds been stored in a cooler).

You don't see too much stuff from Fleetway that isn’t SS, Amy, or Tekno so the references they did do were pretty cool to see.

2: I like how they took a line from Sonic adventures’ line about the Emeralds being able to turn thoughts into power and expanded upon it with Robotnik’s Chaos form and Super Sonic’s chillydog gag.

The whole Owls vs Echidnas thing was a little weird but I do like how it could have been a reference to how Labyrinth Zone (which was turned into a real labyrinth in the movie) has owl looking murals on it.

Probably not the case but still wanted to bring it up.

3. The last thing I have to say is that I liked how they focused more on the sonic characters instead of the original human characters this time around. Really enjoyed the scene with Team Sonic all together even if it gave off "we're trying to be the Avenger" vibes.

I was really hoping to see Metal Sonic show up but the chances of him showing up in the possible sequel are still probable even where the Shadow is a thing now after they were “partners” in Sonic Adventure 2 battle.

My last few things to say is that the credits were great, with significantly better pixel art and music while also just working better as whole in general.

I still do hate how the black rapper they got to sing it did the same thing he did with first with how he uploaded the full credit scene but significantly shittier with himself lazily inserted into it. This kinda segways to the last thing I have to say as well.

Knuckles bringing up grapes when asked about ice cream was funny to me but probably not the way that they wanted it to be.
 
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PoisonedBun powiedział(a):
I just saw it, I don't know how anyone who saw the first doesn't think the second one is better. It's not like, high cinema or anything, but it was way more ambitious. The first movie felt like a typical Hollywood adaptation, and Sonic is also there. This was actually a proper movie about Sonic.

I'm curious about one thing.

They said there was no way Robotnik could have survived the fall, but Dr. Stone was shown alive. The person I saw the movie with told me Jim Carrey was taking a break from acting, if not retiring.

Here's what I'm thinking. Dr. Robotnik canonically dies in order to be replaced with the proper Dr. Eggman and his design in the Archie comics. In the middle of the movie, we see Dr. Stone looking at other versions of Eggman, but it's never clearly explained what he was doing. I think in the next movie, the Eggman we have isn't going to be the original Eggman. This also gives Jim Carrey an out if he chooses not to continue the franchise.
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Maybe he had a sliver of Chaos energy left and warped away from the scene? Someone had to activate Project Shadow and I can't see it being anyone else other than Robotnik. It was his cousin who got popped by the government all those years ago after all. Some people are theorizing that's the reason Movie!Robotnik joined the government in the first place, for revenge. .

That would tie in nicely with what we know about the third film.
 
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I just saw it, I don't know how anyone who saw the first doesn't think the second one is better. It's not like, high cinema or anything, but it was way more ambitious. The first movie felt like a typical Hollywood adaptation, and Sonic is also there. This was actually a proper movie about Sonic.

I'm curious about one thing.

They said there was no way Robotnik could have survived the fall, but Dr. Stone was shown alive. The person I saw the movie with told me Jim Carrey was taking a break from acting, if not retiring.

Here's what I'm thinking. Dr. Robotnik canonically dies in order to be replaced with the proper Dr. Eggman and his design in the Archie comics. In the middle of the movie, we see Dr. Stone looking at other versions of Eggman, but it's never clearly explained what he was doing. I think in the next movie, the Eggman we have isn't going to be the original Eggman. This also gives Jim Carrey an out if he chooses not to continue the franchise.
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Its probably an out to give Carry the option to come back or not if he wants.

Stone was designing a new outfit for Robotnick to match his new bald/big mustache look. The classic Eggman look was there as a game nod. And Carry did express interest in being Fat Eggman in Sonic 3, so who knows?
 
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1: Soyed out to the references, was surprised that there at least 2 (or 3) Fleetway references (Robotnik’s rebirth, “Chaos” Robotnik and emeralds been stored in a cooler).

You don't see too much stuff from Fleetway that isn’t SS, Amy, or Tekno so the references they did do were pretty cool to see.

2: I like how they took a line from Sonic adventures’ line about the Emeralds being able to turn thoughts into power and expanded upon it with Robotnik’s Chaos form and Super Sonic’s chillydog gag.

The whole Owls vs Echidnas thing was a little weird but I do like how it could have been a reference to how Labyrinth Zone (which was turned into a real labyrinth in the movie) has owl looking murals on it.

Probably not the case but still wanted to bring it up.

3. The last thing I have to say is that I liked how they focused more on the sonic characters instead of the original human characters this time around. Really enjoyed the scene with Team Sonic all together even if it gave off "we're trying to be the Avenger" vibes.

I was really hoping to see Metal Sonic show up but the chances of him showing up in the possible sequel are still probable even where the Shadow is a thing now after they were “partners” in Sonic Adventure 2 battle.

My last few things to say is that the credits were great, significantly better than the last movie not only because of the quality of the pixel art being better but also because of there being no random black rappers in it (which kind of loops back to the first paragraph in this part) and that segways to the last thing I have to say.

Knuckles bringing up grapes when asked about ice cream was funny to me but probably not the way that they wanted it to be.
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Tails' backstory is another STC sort-of-reference too.
 

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Maybe he had a sliver of Chaos energy left and warped away from the scene? Someone had to activate Project Shadow and I can't see it being anyone else other than Robotnik. It was his cousin who got popped by the government all those years ago after all. Some people are theorizing that's the reason Movie!Robotnik joined the government in the first place, for revenge. .

That would tie in nicely with what we know about the third film.
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Sorry to be that guy, but Gerald Robotnik was his grandfather, not his cousin.
 
starborn427614 powiedział(a):
Tails' backstory is another STC sort-of-reference too.
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It's one of those things where it could possibly be, with how he's implied to be from a separate dimension something that has only ever been seen in the Fleetway canon until this point.

But for the most part, it's close to the whole evil Super Sonic thing where it's stretch to say that's what it was meant to be, Tails' backstory with him being bullied for his two tails has always been a thing since his debut in Sonic 2 I think.
 
Watched it yesterday, Tails was adorable and love Sonic and Tails' bonding moment in Russia. Stone was surprisingly decent and Carrey was killing it as Robotnik.


I hope we get Amy and Rouge with Shadow. It will be interesting if they adapt Maria.
 
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Watched it yesterday, Tails was adorable and love Sonic and Tails' bonding moment in Russia. Stone was surprisingly decent and Carrey was killing it as Robotnik.


I hope we get Amy and Rouge with Shadow. It will be interesting if they adapt Maria.
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It seems 3 is probably going to be a loose adaptation of SA2, so there's probably going to be more characters from the adventure games as a result. In the game lore rouge is a glowie agent sent to spy on robotnik/eggman and gather info on his plans but considering the whole "sonic and tails are inter-dimensional aliens" angle where animal people aren't really too normal a sight for most humans it'll probably be a bit hard to explain that shit compared to Shadow who's origin is already being a covered-up government funded science project that was in cryosleep for 50 years. The government in the first movie was one that was confused by the fucking small blue goblin man running around and literally had to call up evil ace ventura to try and contain it for study.

Speaking of the first movie, I finally got around to seeing it yesterday. Fine movie, definitely a lot more expositionary monologues at the start than I expected. I saw trailers/preview scenes that didn't have the monologues and I wonder if there's an unreleased different cut in the movie that just has it framed as a cryptid sighting kinda thing after the intro till he meets the cop guy. In my opinion the opening for the old OVA movie was much stronger. Unfortunately due to Bandai's streaming service randomly flagging down literally ALL UNALTERED ISOLATED VIDEOS OF THE FULL THING GOING BACK OVER A FUCKING DECADE I have no means of comparing the two of them.

I'll get around to seeing the second movie someday, no clue when but hopefully it won't be as long as the first one in terms of wait time. You can thank me being a fucking no money at the right times loser and everything being streaming service exclusives save for brief tv appearances for that.
starborn427614 powiedział(a):
Maybe he had a sliver of Chaos energy left and warped away from the scene? Someone had to activate Project Shadow and I can't see it being anyone else other than Robotnik. It was his cousin who got popped by the government all those years ago after all. Some people are theorizing that's the reason Movie!Robotnik joined the government in the first place, for revenge. .

That would tie in nicely with what we know about the third film.
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Yeah this really would fit honestly. Even going by the first movie it's clear Robotnik and the guys he works for have some sort of beef with each other, with the only guy he really has in terms of friends is Stone. He also wasn't even trying to take over the world in the first movie, but literally just taking his job of catching the rodent man to ridiculous extremes that caused millions in property damage. I'm fairly certain if shit plays out SA2 adaptation style then his fondness for the pyramids stated in the chase scene of the first movie is going to have a payoff. Especially with the sphinx's head being blown up. Remember what half the decapitation damaged egyptian statues had jammed over them in SA2? That's right, Robotnik's fucking head.
 
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It seems 3 is probably going to be a loose adaptation of SA2, so there's probably going to be more characters from the adventure games as a result. In the game lore rouge is a glowie agent sent to spy on robotnik/eggman and gather info on his plans but considering the whole "sonic and tails are inter-dimensional aliens" angle where animal people aren't really too normal a sight for most humans it'll probably be a bit hard to explain that shit compared to Shadow who's origin is already being a covered-up government funded science project that was in cryosleep for 50 years. The government in the first movie was one that was confused by the fucking small blue goblin man running around and literally had to call up evil ace ventura to try and contain it for study.
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Correction, since many people seem to confuse it: GUN (Guardian Units of Nations) is like the UN or at least some sort of international entity, notice the plural "Nations". They were the ones involved with the whole Shadow/Ark thing and subsequent coverup. Rouge was sent by the President of the United Federation (basically the US), so she's a different type of glowie, and if my memory serves me right the President was actually suspicious of GUN and looking into them as well, but I don't remember if Rouge was directly involved with that outside of helping Eggman raid a GUN base as part of his/Shadow's plan that she was pretending to go along with.
So, the US Govt. not knowing about it isn't really a plothole, since GUN is seperate and was already keeping things secret (and even blatantly lying about certain aspects of the Ark incident to the public/govt) in the games.
 
Not going to lie, I was half-expecting Eggman to turn Stone into one of his robot aides. Which then begs the question of when are we going to see Eggman enslave animals for his robots?
 
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Not going to lie, I was half-expecting Eggman to turn Stone into one of his robot aides. Which then begs the question of when are we going to see Eggman enslave animals for his robots?
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I mean they seem good enough friends from what I saw in the first movie, backing each other up with like the only real moment of actual physical aggression from robotnik being the time he woke up after he got fucking verbally owned at his own game and then knocked out by the cop he assumed was just a local hillbilly. Carrey-ass screaming about how much he loves the way Stone makes coffee, asking Stone to pin himself to the wall sohe can do his aggressive monologue, the small things like that kinda frame good reasons why he wouldn't just make Stone into a robot slave. He's not quite Jack Nicoloson's Joker's level of evil where he was already a seasoned criminal with a wacky sense of humor to the point he'll off his number one guy over some shit going wrong in his plans, at least not yet.
 
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