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I genuinely didn't think of real world politics once while watching that episode because I was too busy laughing at the moron covered in lamb sauce apologise to the entire country for crinkling his big diaper during an emergency alert.
 
I've never seen Mr Frog as a stand in for any particular real life politician or celebrity.

He's just a stock violent psychopath character and people are reading into shit too much.
 
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Or maybe it can just be a totally original, fictional political situation that has no real relevance to real world events.

Remember, President Jimble was the Vice President. And only took office when President Pinhead died after eating bad shrimp. So it’s clearly not following any President 1-for-1. If anything, he resembles Chris-Chan more than any president. The way he slurs his words, his mannerisms and his constant talk about trolls.

The idea for the episode was probably “What if Chris-Chan was president.” And they went from there.
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The only Trump related thing for Mr.Frog I can think of is this
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Other than that Mr. Frog and President Jimble don't really act anything like Trump and Biden in my opinion.
 
I think this old Tolkien quote is appropriate here:

“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”​

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I don't think Mr. Frog or President Jimble or anybody in the show is supposed to be a clear allegory for anybody. But you sure can read into them a bunch of things if you so wish, since part of the humor - no matter how wacky - is how true to life it is.
 
Mr. Frog is obviously the Populist candidate of the two. You may think he's a violent, selfish, narcissistic psychopath who does nothing but enrich and empower himself through the Presidency. But clearly that's the persona the people fell in love with. He's just giving them what they want. People didn't even seem mad when he quit. Of course, they realized he had done everything he said he was going to do: he completely and totally won.

Jimble wasn't even elected directly to the Office. He only ascended via the bad shrimp (possibly orchestrated by the worms that run the planet).

More seriously, I think the Trump/Mr. Frog parallels (brash TV star running for President / the worm moderators directly quoting a CNN debate then treating him "very, very badly") are intentional, but subtle enough to let the audience draw the lines themselves... if they care to do so.

I don't think Zach had the foresight to know that Blue Team's campaign was going to be such a dumpster fire that the bumbling idiot character was supposed to ol' Cornpop "Come on, Fat!" Joe during the season's production.

I think the Mr. Boss assassination joke along with the Butler photo and the fan art that came after cemented the Trump/Mr. Frog association in people's minds, anyway. I never saw people drawing Mr. Frog falling up stairs onto Air Force One (even though that'd be really funny.)
 
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Or maybe it can just be a totally original, fictional political situation that has no real relevance to real world events.

Remember, President Jimble was the Vice President. And only took office when President Pinhead died after eating bad shrimp. So it’s clearly not following any President 1-for-1. If anything, he resembles Chris-Chan more than any president. The way he slurs his words, his mannerisms and his constant talk about trolls.

The idea for the episode was probably “What if Chris-Chan was president.” And they went from there.
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Exactly. I can't speak for Michael's style of political humor, but it's definitely not Zach's to have just a guy who's a Trump or a Biden clone to be a strawman. He's not that lazy. There's not a doubt in my mind that Jimble was based off of Chris more than he was of Biden.
 
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I'm sure they want to gloat that it's taking the piss on Trump, but they have the nagging suspicion it was taking the piss on Biden, so they don't know what to do with that feeling
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Jimble was kind of a composite of bad presidents. America has had their share of shit presidents over its history but you'd be surprised to find anyone that can name any president before Reagan (if that really), Therefore any "bad president" must obviously be the current one, despite the fact they tried to make Jimble kind of was just "generally" incompetent, which can really be any president if you want to be really pedantic.

Political satire is dead and rotten.

Its not like Mr Frog was much better, being later revealed he only bothered with this just as another "thing" to achieve (which he immediately quit after he "won")

Im far more disappointed Mr Frog was barely given any focus on this episode, his next appearance had to almost kind of compensate by making nearly the whole episode dedicated to him and his inner struggle.

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The idea for the episode was probably “What if Chris-Chan was president.” And they went from there.
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Shockingly that has already been explored way back when after one of his trolls/anti-trolls wrote a whole multi chapter story (a reminder how much free time these people had...) that was about a Chris Chan expy taking over the world and what happens from there (cringy agony for starters)

It was meant to creatively send the message across to Chris about his bad behavior but their first mistake was assuming Chris would read it at all, which he obviously didnt.
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Erm... then who were the worms?
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Well, they are portrayed as petty tiny cowardous creatures who run things entirely based on their own self interests.

Do the math.
 
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