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>Wake up
>Go to car to start my day
>Turn on SiriusXM radio to find a song to drive to
>This shows up

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🙂 It was a good day today
 
Had a Frums song come on while I was listening to music. It filled me with a sort of deep sadness, even grief, knowing that something I enjoy is now forever tainted having been made at the hands of a literal fecal-matter-ingesting-faggot. I mourn a little for the Frums who lived a life of not being a shit-eating homosexual; even if I never met him.

I hate troons so fucking much bros, it's unreal.
 
Had a Frums song come on while I was listening to music. It filled me with a sort of deep sadness, even grief, knowing that something I enjoy is now forever tainted having been made at the hands of a literal fecal-matter-ingesting-faggot. I mourn a little for the Frums who lived a life of not being a shit-eating homosexual; even if I never met him.
The worst thing about this is that Frums is that sort of Troon that's very good at hiding it, he's been hiding everything for 10 straight years after all.
 
genuinely this tranny shitting up the rhythm game thread, can someone take this over to PG i don't wanna read the degenerate shit any more. It's making me want to vomit every time i see it.
I guess there's not much to talk about at the moment. Though I've never heard of this tranny or his game.

Pump it Up Phoenix 2 got announced, that's something.

>Wake up
>Go to car to start my day
>Turn on SiriusXM radio to find a song to drive to
>This shows up

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🙂 It was a good day today
Amazing. I have never heard Dub-I-Dub outside of DDR.
 
Amazing. I have never heard Dub-I-Dub outside of DDR.
With that channel specifically, they mostly play rap and rock, rarely will they ever play anything outside of that. Once in a while you'll get a "Ace of Base" or "Blue (Da Ba Dee)", but that's about it. I heard a La Bouche song once, but never again after that.

For anything even within the realm of those songs, you would have to go to the UTOPIA channel, which USED to be one of the main lineups (Ch 55) but some years ago they re-did their entire lineup to where they stuck UTOPIA in one of the "Premium" channels where you need a high-tier subscription and a very specific car radio to even be able to listen to them in the first place (regular radios only allow you to go up to the 200 channels which are all exclusively the sports ones). There is, of course, the SiriusXM app on mobile, but it's shit. A long time ago they got rid of one of their best features called "My Music", in which you had the ability to control what type of music played on whatever channel you were listening to. So for example, if you went to "90's on 9" you could change the slider on the menu to have the station play more pop songs than rap songs. With UTOPIA I always had the slider setting to 90's and early 2000's (their max was 2010)
 
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okay so what the fuck happened with DDR that they have the juuuuuuuuust different enough"Dance Maniax"
I was at a local arcade and I'll admit I dropped out of DDR back around Max 2 as I got a full-time job and stuff, but then I see there isn't even like, you put in the Konami code and it goes into DDR mode or something
this feels like there was some legal hoo-hah behind the scenes
 
okay so what the fuck happened with DDR that they have the juuuuuuuuust different enough"Dance Maniax"
I was at a local arcade and I'll admit I dropped out of DDR back around Max 2 as I got a full-time job and stuff, but then I see there isn't even like, you put in the Konami code and it goes into DDR mode or something
this feels like there was some legal hoo-hah behind the scenes
Do you mean StepManiax?
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Because DanceManiax is something completely different and was made by Konami themselves
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oh yeah that derp
nine panel bullshit-ass mugfugg
So it was made by Kyle Ward... the same Kyle Ward that was involved with In The Groove 1 and 2.

However, unlike his other projects that seem to die off in one form or another, this one is still going. It keeps getting updates with new songs including ones from NAOKI. (From what I can tell, a lot of Konami in-house artists became independent so other companies can hire them to do work for them if they wish)
 
oh yeah that derp
nine panel bullshit-ass mugfugg
StepmaniaX is a 5-panel dance game.

It's made by Kyle Ward (from In the Groove), which, if you recall was a fairly blatant DDR rip off. Konami sued ITG and won completely and entirely twenty years ago (fuck I'm old) - seemingly centering around the dance pad layout being so identical (4 panel, U/D/L/R) that ITG could be installed on DDR machines, which is why Konami went full-bore into the lawsuit - and why Pump It Up still exists.

Time went on and more or less, DDR died as well. Konami got fairly lazy about releases and cheapened out very hard on the construction of new machines (DDRX US machines were made by the literal lowest bidder) as well as the death of arcades in general pretty much left DDR tied to arcade operators bothering to find/maintain old 8th Mix machines - which was a dwindling number. This would be around 2008 to 2015, more or less.

In this realm of "DDR sucks real bad" - StepmaniaX was conceived, with Kyle Ward seemingly ready to take another run at the market that Konami had seemingly abandoned, although they would show signs of life again in 2016 (DDR A, the end of the X era) released and not only was it not complete dogshit, but, they actually deigned to sell new cabinets to US operators - notably with Dave and Busters adding 1 or 2 to all 160 locations in the US. Konami is already teetering back into their lazy phase again (with DDR A3, DDR World, the DDR Gold and Platinum Cabs, and likely whatever comes after DDR World) being locked back into "favored" (aka Round1 only) operators - there's been a fair bit of abandonment of the game again.

StepmaniaX does several important things
- It's a 5 panel game, legally distinct
- You can buy a machine for an arcade for $11,000 all in (Konami DDR cabs cost similar but have other purchase requirements such as network connectivity and profit sharing). This is probably more expensive now, but, it's much easier/cheaper to attain.
- You can buy a pad (or two pads) separately - to use at home or on a bootleg machine
- The SMX pad are cutting edge for the genre, instead of contact sensors (which can get stuck, dirty, or break) - they use FSR sensors and seemingly annually redesigned for the newest tech. DDR still uses more or less the same design as it did in 1999.
- SMX has actually gone out and licensed some of the music that DDR let slip (Captain Jack and some Naoki songs)

However, the main frustrations are
- SMX pads are really nice (and can be configured for DDR or PIU), but $1,900 each is fucking insane
- StepRevolution (the parent company) never stepped up production, meaning they're almost always out of stock on everything. If people are lining up to drop $3,800 on pads, you should probably step up production. This has been an issue for nearly a decade.

I don't think it'll catch on because Arcades are pretty dead and Konami has a pretty firm lock on the popular ones (Round 1) and more than anything I think SMX missed it's golden window somewhere between ~2014 and ~2022.
 
I think SMX missed it's golden window somewhere between ~2014 and ~2022.
I've seen SMX pop up very slowly in surrounding arcades more than any DDR machines. It doesn't really have any competition because PIU isn't very common in America and DDR has exclusivity deals with certain arcades for newer versions.
 
However, the main frustrations are
- SMX pads are really nice (and can be configured for DDR or PIU), but $1,900 each is fucking insane
- StepRevolution (the parent company) never stepped up production, meaning they're almost always out of stock on everything. If people are lining up to drop $3,800 on pads, you should probably step up production. This has been an issue for nearly a decade.

Stepmania pads are the gold standard for at home pads, they'd drop the pads every three months or so because they were all hand made at the time sending the price up. But never issues with quality. With no easy to access alternative all the DDR spergs (myself included) wanted the reliable pad but the price was a kick in the teeth for a lot of people.

Now with LTEK there is a budget friendly reliably option so not sure if Stepmania X pads are still in such hot demand.

I've seen exactly 2 Stepmania x cabinets and they were packed every time i want to use them, I'm not a fan of the extra censor in the middle but it was alright, i still austically play 8th Mix, Extreme & ITG 1 & 2 on my home setup with Stepmania

I've seen SMX pop up very slowly in surrounding arcades more than any DDR machines. It doesn't really have any competition because PIU isn't very common in America and DDR has exclusivity deals with certain arcades for newer versions.

PIU was not as popular as Extreme/8th Mix but i still see people playing the new PIU, i must admit beethoven virus was hella fun for the spins.
 
Time went on and more or less, DDR died as well. Konami got fairly lazy about releases and cheapened out very hard on the construction of new machines (DDRX US machines were made by the literal lowest bidder) as well as the death of arcades in general pretty much left DDR tied to arcade operators bothering to find/maintain old 8th Mix machines - which was a dwindling number. This would be around 2008 to 2015, more or less.
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well that sucks
I figured it was something around the rest of Konami going to shit

has anybody tried mad sciencing an OG playstation into something to run the old hardware, like emulate the boards and run the CD on the psx?
iirc up through 4th it ran off hardware that actually included a playstation up front both figuratively and literally, where the memory cards went,
I def recall sticking a copy of the game disc for the arcade of 4th or 4th plus in my modded psx, it booted and started looking for the hardware, threw an error message about "hardware rom #252uf08 not found error" or something similar
I've seen exactly 2 Stepmania x cabinets and they were packed every time i want to use them, I'm not a fan of the extra censor in the middle but it was alright, i still austically play 8th Mix, Extreme & ITG 1 & 2 on my home setup with Stepmania
I was at a big tourist-ish arcade so it was mostly kids randomly hopping and wandering off and a few barhuggers, at least from what I saw
they had StepmaniaX (I guess? that 9panel one with the Naoikis and the E-Rotics) and a Pump machine, I think there were some people on Pump who knew what they were doing? but whatever fuck Pump lol

it went pretty well for my first time on a machine in nearly fifteen years and first time seriously playing in even longer,
the place had a deal for "all you can play for the non-ticket games for ten bucks" (even a few of the tickets like that space invaders gun game or skeeball, you just don't get the tickets) so I'd kinda linger at the pinballs nearby until the game freed up or I finished cooling down, but not having the pressure of getting my buck a play really allowed me to get my bearings, especially with the middle button
I was only hovering around what would have been four or five foot songs back in the day but I wasn't sure if I'd even be able to go with all the rebar in my leg from my crash last year
I'd been dicking around with the computer simulator Step Mania (they need some new fucking names to go around) where it just scrolls the arrows up, but I hadn't really played
 
has anybody tried mad sciencing an OG playstation into something to run the old hardware, like emulate the boards and run the CD on the psx?
Yes, there are a few different versions of this.

- You can buy/emulate the arcade hardware - because the machines are often gutted for parts (Monitors and Pads being the premium items), there's a fair amount of the actual arcade hardware floating around which can be grabbed for cheap. You can (through some effort or converters) wire non-standard pads into it and play the game. It's also been figured out so you can have a single piece of hardware running however many different versions you want.

Additionally to this you can also acquire a modern machine and change the routing to some third world country (instead of Japan) on the network so it can connect to the "international" version - which is what I've seen every dive arcade do.

- The PS2 games still exist and there are many adapters to plug directly into a PS2 for most dance pads. Even easier if you emulate the PS2 on a PC.

- Stepmania/ITGMania (not to be confused with StepmaniaX which clearly is trying to lean on the name) is an open-source dance game emulator which runs on PCs and is what 99% of all people use when playing at home. The gold standard IMO

Also it's worth noting that while DDR did die pretty hard from 2008-2016, they did make some ground after that. If you've got an arcade near you - you can probably play DDR there. There are a lot of arcades stuck on A/A20/A20+ but it's not the end of the world (and if you live near a Round1, chances are there's 2 or more DDR World Machines there) - so they are bouncing back but they still don't care about the American market.


Now with LTEK there is a budget friendly reliably option so not sure if Stepmania X pads are still in such hot demand.
StepmaniaX pads are always going to be in demand for people chasing world records because of how adjustable the pads are - you can customize exactly how much pressure to "activate" the each individual sensor and some players like it so sensitive that they can basically breathe on it to trigger it.

$1,800 is insane and I can't believe they haven't even explored a more value-focused option yet. They keep leaning on not wanting to over produce, but, if you're product constant sells out consistently for nearly a decade - you should probably produce more.

LTEKs are great and the trick is to try and get one used so you don't have to pay shipping costs.
 
There is a company that does offer DDR arcade-replica pads that are really good but they're still a thousand bucks, plus pretty expensive shipping. They're much better than the L-TEK and are always in stock, they feel basically identical to the arcade pads. I'd still recommend the SMX pads if you have the money and you're willing to wait until they're in stock, if you have the budget but aren't willing to wait then I'd recommend the replica pads (I forgot the company that sells em). Otherwise, get the L-TEK. The handlebar is pretty low and flimsy on the L-TEK so I'd recommend just using something else as a bar
 
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