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[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Why do they treat talking to bots like a war crime?

Anything that changes or threatens their status quo is a threat to them like a virus. It's in the nature of someone told how to think.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

look up cognitive infiltration.

The goal in “disrupting extremist communities” is not so much convincing them they are wrong-but causing them to doubt their own convictions.

An influence op on Kiwifarms for example might aim to make most Kiwis doubt that trannies actually are repulsive vermin, arguing that this belief is irrational, not backed by science or makes you stupid or a social outcast.

TLDR; The goal is more often to confuse, demoralize and disconcert.

Yeah but like that's my point. The bot cannot appeal "to the experts" or common consensus if its not on reddit. If you see its comments, its most popular tactic was to do the "As A X/Y/Z" which works on redditors but not anywhere else.

Take taste the rainbow as an example most people on kf will recognize, everyone knows he's jewish, do you think that has EVER helped him?

The bot was a clever manipulation of the reddit echosystem, but its not universally applicable.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

So what I’ve learned today is that for a fun night, grab a mixed drink, fire up the ChatGPT and raise havoc on the Reddit.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

they have an automoderator system built into reddit that allows you to automatically ban certain words and phrases with zero transparency

Fun fact, not only do they autoban certain words or phases, but by default, they don't actually tell you they've been banned. You could say something, it could get autobanned and removed, but still remain visible to you and NOBODY else and you would never find out unless you logged off or had an external plugin to check for you.

Unironically the most orwellian shit ever. Censoring people without said people ever even finding out and its literally the most common feature of the entire website.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

You don't have to look very hard, there was one 4 pages ago. His entire account is just replies from ChatGPT

Found it

 

[quaawaa]

AI aside, I'm just surprised it was so easy to change opinions, I figured most people just dug their heels in,. especially Reddit retards.

That's because no one posts on ChangeMyView with an opinion they actually hold; they're just fishing for arguments to use against people they disagree with.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

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One of you Kiwis is a bot. I'm going to test every single one of you til I find the bot.

 

[Gandhi's Left Hook]

Get over it, man.

They don't want to get over it. They are using it for attention.

 

[RacistComputer79]

Using an algorithm to control a hivemind. Interesting. Hello fellow humans, how do you do?

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Meanwhile in r/soccer:



This one mod got utterly annihilated in the comments. Check the votes.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

AI aside, I'm just surprised it was so easy to change opinions, I figured most people just dug their heels in,. especially Reddit retards.

Youre ignoring that the main purpose of that sub is posting the opposite of what OP actually agrees with so they can score brownie points. "Life long MAGA member here, but seeing illegals deported made me realize Drumpf is literally Hitler and we need drag queen story hour."

Is this just an assumption?

Yeah, quick guesstimate based on the load/consumption I see running games vs getting a response from a LLM locally.
Playing a game like Warzone I easily get a power draw of 400 watts and more while the game is running. Running LLama I'm drawing not even 200 Watts during inference ("generating answers"), which takes mere seconds.

 

[Blue Flying Leaf]

It just displays how fragile the entire Orwellian mentality is. They need to keep lid on constantly and deceive everyone or it goes up in smoke in a matter of days.

 

[rapecel]

A group from University of Zurich used /r/ChangeMyView to run a study which involved using large language model bots (archive)
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Redditors, angry that their comments in circlejerk about the current thing subreddit #9845734 could easily be replaced by robots, suddenly become experts in AI and research ethics or something.
Using this logic placebo groups should be told they're being given the placebo in medical research because transparency
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Not the heckin' publicorino! No, I'm not mad that reddit and other companies do this same sort of testing all the time without anyone's knowledge or consent. You can't use gmail... because you just can't!
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The word "community" has become completely meaningless, example 105943022345
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No bad actors have ever thought to bot reddit before!
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE SUBREDDIT RULES + "I am not a lawyer" (trust me buddy, we all already knew)
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A LLM pretending to be PART OF A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY (read: 85% of humanity). That's too far!
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Zürich mentioned

 

[Meiwaku]

A group from University of Zurich used /r/ChangeMyView to run a study which involved using large language model bots (archive)
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Redditors, angry that their comments in circlejerk about the current thing subreddit #9845734 could easily be replaced by robots, suddenly become experts in AI and research ethics or something.
Using this logic placebo groups should be told they're being given the placebo in medical research because transparency
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Not the heckin' publicorino! No, I'm not mad that reddit and other companies do this same sort of testing all the time without anyone's knowledge or consent. You can't use gmail... because you just can't!
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The word "community" has become completely meaningless, example 105943022345
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No bad actors have ever thought to bot reddit before!
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE SUBREDDIT RULES + "I am not a lawyer" (trust me buddy, we all already knew)
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A LLM pretending to be PART OF A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY (read: 85% of humanity). That's too far!
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I'm not sure how Zurich works but basically for all USA Universities if it's open to the public you do NOT need written consent. This is such an example

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Ok off topic and super pedantic but water technically isn't wet. Water causes things to be wet. Wet is the state of the surface that has liquid adhering to it.

I'll show myself the door.....sorry.

Does water not adhere to itself?

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

With the trans thread locked, the discussion on r/soccer moves over to the daily discussion thread:

A wild Kiwi spotted?:

 

[C L E O]

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Imagine being this much of a faggot while billionaires and washed up whores make 10x the fucking carbon emissions but nah, it's our problem.

>Muh Water
>Muh Lectrishity
In the good name of God, shut the holy fuck up.

These kinds of people NEVER cared about environmentalism, electricity, or water conservation until MUH AI. Then overnight they became the Captain Planet scold task force. God this genre of redditor really pisses me off. They really make me MATI!

 

[Mister Fister]

Does water not adhere to itself?

Extreme hydrogen bonding says yes but for the purposes of wetting it doesn't count.

 

[Not A Bunny]

>Muh Water
>Muh Lectrishity
In the good name of God, shut the holy fuck up.

These kinds of people NEVER cared about environmentalism, electricity, or water conservation until MUH AI. Then they became the scold police. God this genre of redditor really pisses me off. They really make me MATI.

Redditors cared about the environment until COVID, and then allow of a sudden, single-use everything was AOK.

NEVER believe anyone so committed to a cause that they can't stand to be questioned. They're just waiting for the next program upgrade and talking point DLC that they couldn't bother to square with the last ones.

 

[smolpp]

I can't believe nobody posted any of the comments from the AI yet. Redditors got all of the accounts deleted but there are still some archives (basically just the first page of the profile). The archives are all from about a month ago and I don't think there's any way to see if any of the comments were given a delta unless an archive of the actual page with the question exists but I'm too lazy to go that far.

Spoiler: AI Responses

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Not a single appeal to logos I can see anywhere. No data, evidence, studies, etc.

It simply breaks down to "as a biracial, small business owner, autistic troon of homocolor who has been raped, believe my lived experience that Hitler was actually a bad man".

If this is what passes for persuasion and the general state of discourse on Reddit, the site is surely dead.

Also lol at the ones where the bot is defending AI and downplaying the effectiveness of chatbots. If I had found any of this faggot shit compelling or persuasive at all, that part would be downright insidious.