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[shatterspinel]

I mean AI manipulation explains why Reddit simultaneously thinks Trump is Hitler but doesn’t understand how euthanasia laws can be manipulated into Aktion T4

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1kacamt/leapfrog_founder_mike_wood_dies_by/

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

One of you Kiwis is a bot. I'm going to test every single one of you til I find the bot.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Zurich Research Lab: I want to do an experiment
Ethics Board: Sure, what are you experimenting on?
Zurich Research Lab: Redditors
Ethics Board: Perfect. No Humans. You can proceed with the trials.
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They should do some research into how developed a redditor’s brain is compared to that of an conspiracy theorist or even some blue collar Joe Shmoe.

 

[Agares]

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People do be acting like places without guns are utopias.

The same people that think fascism is just around the corner seem hellbent on voting away the right to defend themselves. It’s like they get off on being helpless little victims.

 

[#FF0000]

Imagine this deployed at scale. Not just a little experiment on Reddit, but literally everywhere the normies are, posing as real people using socks, spewing Davosian technocrat bullshit everywhere like a shit cannon hooked up to a septic truck.

They've been doing this for a while now, you just haven't realized it yet.

 

[Owlbear]

University of Zurich disclosed that they were using bots after the fact. How many bots are operating that we don't know about? I would guess probably Dead Internet Theory levels.

Reddit almost certainly is at this level or worse. Brands are known to run huge farms of reputation posters which aren't necessarily bots but are at the very least low-paid Filipinos. Replacing them with AI has almost certainly happened already since they already have the infrastructure to get around "bot detection." The Kamala Harris campaign had their Reddit manipulation discord channel leaked after the election, and it wasn't AI but it was a bunch of brainless NPC leftists. I have no doubt Trump ran the same sort of ops. By 2028, the manipulation will be kicked into high gear and entirely driven by AI bots.

Reddit has been the dead internet for at least 5 years (if not its entire life - it started as the dead internet) to trick young leftist consoomers into buying more shit and voting more left.

 

[Cuckoman]

The thing that makes the study little more than a novelty to me is that they went to "Consensus Central: The website", and then went to "Consensus Central: The subreddit", in essence they taught a bot how to manipulate retards that are already predisposed to consensus (because they use reddit), in the consensus finding subreddit into finding consensus.

It does demonstrate that AI can indeed manipulate the retards of society, but those retards could have been manipulated without AI to begin with.

The most disagreement you can find on reddit is "I think that maybe we should limit 3 day old babies to puberty blockers instead of full blown surgery", and there's very little dissent allowed so its easy to find a bot that hits the sweetspot.

Finding that sweetspot in more wild websites where you're actually allowed to disagree is gonna be considerably harder.

I think one of the reasons they are so angry is also that they realize this means they are losing the battle of who decides what consensus is.
Reddit is the way it is because all the terminally online trannies can spend 24/7 on the site and completely drown out any dissenting opinions
because they are so many and few normal people can put in the same amount of time and energy to shape consensus.

I mean, who can compete with an unemployed tranny that can spend all day and night on reddit?
I can't but I know who can : a bot.

They are angry because now the league of trannies no longer have monopoly to control consensus by drowning out any dissent. Now anyone with a few dollars worth of AI tokens can drown them out.
Lol.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

So has the study been published?

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Redditors: you need to educate yourself chud. Read these blog posts by this queer Marxists tranny collective and watch this video by this Muslim pedophile supported by left leaning shadow money and learn.

Also redditors: oh god. A computer wrote up a argument that persuasive me because they claimed to be a minority exposing how shallow my beliefs are. IM GOING INSANE!!!!

 

[linchan]

Redditors: you need to educate yourself chud. Read these blog posts by this queer Marxists tranny collective and watch this video by this Muslim pedophile supported by left leaning shadow money and learn.

Also redditors: oh god. A computer wrote up a argument that persuasive me because they claimed to be a minority exposing how shallow my beliefs are. IM GOING INSANE!!!!

Redditors: Believes that the results of this study are inaccurate because of the prevalence of bots.
Also Redditors: Believes wholesale that the entire website that conveniently aligns with their worldview is an accurate representation of reality.

 

[big pauper]

The thing that makes the study little more than a novelty to me is that they went to "Consensus Central: The website", and then went to "Consensus Central: The subreddit", in essence they taught a bot how to manipulate retards that are already predisposed to consensus (because they use reddit), in the consensus finding subreddit into finding consensus.

It does demonstrate that AI can indeed manipulate the retards of society, but those retards could have been manipulated without AI to begin with.

The most disagreement you can find on reddit is "I think that maybe we should limit 3 day old babies to puberty blockers instead of full blown surgery", and there's very little dissent allowed so its easy to find a bot that hits the sweetspot.

Finding that sweetspot in more wild websites where you're actually allowed to disagree is gonna be considerably harder.

also it's even more egregious because reddit itself has obviously been designed from the very beginning to be a website that creates an environment where it's easy to manipulate the illusion of consensus. its a discussion board that by design does not have a reply or quote system and essentially just hides everything that is not the consensus opinion, it's designed so a few moderators or a few people with parachute accounts can completely control discussion on a subreddit

they have an automoderator system built into reddit that allows you to automatically ban certain words and phrases with zero transparency

 

[krack]

Redditors: you need to educate yourself chud. Read these blog posts by this queer Marxists tranny collective and watch this video by this Muslim pedophile supported by left leaning shadow money and learn.

Also redditors: oh god. A computer wrote up a argument that persuasive me because they claimed to be a minority exposing how shallow my beliefs are. IM GOING INSANE!!!!

>IT'S SOMEHOW TRUMP'S FAULT

 

[grand larsony]

A group from University of Zurich used /r/ChangeMyView to run a study which involved using large language model bots (archive)
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Redditors, angry that their comments in circlejerk about the current thing subreddit #9845734 could easily be replaced by robots, suddenly become experts in AI and research ethics or something.
Using this logic placebo groups should be told they're being given the placebo in medical research because transparency
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Not the heckin' publicorino! No, I'm not mad that reddit and other companies do this same sort of testing all the time without anyone's knowledge or consent. You can't use gmail... because you just can't!
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The word "community" has become completely meaningless, example 105943022345
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No bad actors have ever thought to bot reddit before!
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE SUBREDDIT RULES + "I am not a lawyer" (trust me buddy, we all already knew)
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A LLM pretending to be PART OF A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY (read: 85% of humanity). That's too far!
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Wątek 'Large language models and propaganda wars'

9 Gru 2023

I've been working on this for a little while and I think I'm ready to give it a public demo now. I have 3 goals in writing this post:

1. Demonstrate how cheap and easy it is to launch a large-scale homemade propaganda campaign

2. Demonstrate how convincing these language models can be when tuned properly

3. Amuse you, I hope

I might be preaching to the choir talking about online propaganda here of all places, but I don't think people even here realize how bad things are getting. For all the kvetching that Democrats did about Russian troll farms, this is a hundred times worse and easier...

• grand larsony
• Odpowiedzi: 8
• Forum: Internet & Technology

Reakcje: x 11 x 2 x 4 x 3

If you guys like this, you'll probably like my thread about this from a couple years ago. I ran some of my own experiments (though not through a university) with fine-tuning GPT-3.5. It worked stunningly well

 

[Homocull]

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One of you Kiwis is a bot. I'm going to test every single one of you til I find the bot.

You don't have to look very hard, there was one 4 pages ago. His entire account is just replies from ChatGPT

You're not wrong. The real fun isn't even spotting the bots—it's watching Redditors unironically deepthroat the dumbest rage-bait and sob stories like it's their job. Half these troglodytes would upvote a paragraph written by a toaster if it mentioned 'my abusive wife's boyfriend.' At this point, the bots are doing us a favor by thinning the herd.

But hey, at least the schizo posters are still (probably) human. Small mercies.

 

[CEO of Autism]

Get over it, man.

 

[MaduroHunter]

I can't believe nobody posted any of the comments from the AI yet. Redditors got all of the accounts deleted but there are still some archives (basically just the first page of the profile). The archives are all from about a month ago and I don't think there's any way to see if any of the comments were given a delta unless an archive of the actual page with the question exists but I'm too lazy to go that far.

Spoiler: AI Responses

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idk.. feels like most of the things it wrote were easier to tell to be AI. something about the phrasing. No human uses Em Dashes more than once a post, if at all.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

This just proves what everyone already knew: reddit is very gullible and should never be taken seriously with anything. They are easily manipulated sheeple, barely human

You know what's funny, is that someone on the other end is a discord moderator and they think they are better than redditors like some kind of smug superiority. It's like a turd with sprinkles compared to a turd with corn in it.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

When did winning a war become genocide?

When the people you're killing are brown hecking wholesome islamarinos

 

[The greater a'tuin]

A group from University of Zurich used /r/ChangeMyView to run a study which involved using large language model bots (archive)
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Redditors, angry that their comments in circlejerk about the current thing subreddit #9845734 could easily be replaced by robots, suddenly become experts in AI and research ethics or something.
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Not the heckin' publicorino! No, I'm not mad that reddit and other companies do this same sort of testing all the time without anyone's knowledge or consent. You can't use gmail... because you just can't!
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The word "community" has become completely meaningless, example 105943022345
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No bad actors have ever thought to bot reddit before!
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE SUBREDDIT RULES + "I am not a lawyer" (trust me buddy, we all already knew)
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A LLM pretending to be PART OF A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY (read: 85% of humanity). That's too far!
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Why do they treat talking to bots like a war crime?

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Surely this hasn't taught kike governments even more bad lessons like the prison experiments and MK Ultra......