💤 Inactive Phil Fish / Phillipe Poisson - The Creator of Fez Who Destroyed His Own Career With Douchebaggery

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Sure would be a dick move if someone had a video of him telling Makoto Goto, an employee of Square-Enix that still works in the industry how much Japanese games suck, when the dude politely asked a question.
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Archived in case it hasn't been already:
 
I just remembered some speculation on /v/ from a few years back that Mr Choke on It may have left indie dev in part because it is so corrupt and incestuous (read: there's no way someone didn't have blackmail on him), and this was around the time Zoe Quinn claimed another victim so it was at least plausible. His timing was excellent from that point of view. I'll have to hunt for a stream Steakmund and his wife did that corroborates how shady the indie scene is, it's not so unreasonable that it was more than just hubris and a total lack of talent that spurred his actions.
 
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I just remembered some speculation on /v/ from a few years back that Mr Choke on It may have left indie dev in part because it is so corrupt and incestuous (read: there's no way someone didn't have blackmail on him), and this was around the time Zoe Quinn claimed another victim so it was at least plausible. His timing was excellent from that point of view. I'll have to hunt for a stream Steakmund and his wife did that corroborates how shady the indie scene is, it's not so unreasonable that it was more than just hubris and a total lack of talent that spurred his actions.
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I've covered it in depth in the past, but the real reason he left indie dev is that it came out that he didn't really make Fez:

So, this developer Shawn McGrath approached me when Indie Game: The Movie came out and featured credits that libeled his friend Jason Degroot. Both of these guys were extremely influential on Fez; there's a good argument that it's their game. McGrath created the central mechanic, design, and code which was lifted from an earlier project he made with Fish that was a music game. Fish admitted to this as far back as 2007, but he'd say "the whole game is made around the 3D pixel aesthetic" or "it's all designed around my Miyazaki influence". This was dishonest however because it was really designed around McGrath's mechanic.
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TL;DR: His entire fucking profile as a tortured auteur genius (as shown in Indie Game: The Movie) is a work of complete fucking fiction. He functionally stole an earlier game, repurposed it as his own creation, and then trotted it out like he was hot shit. He hasn't worked on anything since that wasn't a co-developer credit since 2017, and hasn't even talked about games at all since 2023, when the Donald got back on Twitter and he ran away to Mastodon.

His getting through IGF? One of his his biggest claims to fame? Also a fucking fabrication:

In 2011, the Independent Games Festival (or IGF) had 5 members of Indie Fund on the finalists panel, and 3 members of Polytron's staff. That's 8 out of 10 judges. Mere days before IGF was to accept submissions, FEZ creator Philippe Poisson had to announce the delay of FEZ. Had Polytron finished FEZ on time, the game would have been a shoe-in to win the grand prize at IGF that year as they had a controlling interest.

In 2012, FEZ gets through nominations and wins big. Of note here is the IGF anonymous nomination panel: all of the finalist judges are invited back to nominate games the following year. So the Indie Fund judges from 2011 would anonymously judge entrants for 2012.

The nomination process is simple: a majority of people who vote on your game is all that is needed to push you through to the selection process. While judges are explicitly told that they can only vote on the games they are given, this is not the case, and any judge can vote on any game; for example, eight people who are members of a small clique can give one game a huge starting bias.

In this instance FEZ would have started off with a bias of +8, and since it only takes a majority of people who voted to push a game through it would take at least 8 other judges to vote no, plus the number of judges that legitimately vote yes for FEZ.
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Fish is a gigantic fraud, and it's only that he very wisely ran away that he has not gotten further coverage like many of his contemporaries.
 
One of the many rules of the internet: anyone who invokes or pretends to be Andy Kaufman is assumed to be a massive tool until proven otherwise. Our buddy Phil of course had an avatar of Andy; Andy would not have wanted anything to do with this loser fraud.
 
Sometimes I think Phil Fish was a presage of how profoundly AIDS infested the indie scene would become, but in reality it's always been like this and only appeared to get worse because of more people and money entering the business. There are hundreds of Phil Fishes now, and it's common enough that it's just part and parcel of indie dev.
 
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Sometimes I think Phil Fish was a presage of how profoundly AIDS infested the indie scene would become, but in reality it's always been like this and only appeared to get worse because of more people and money entering the business. There are hundreds of Phil Fishes now, and it's common enough that it's just part and parcel of indie dev.
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The money and fame are drying up around it I've noticed.
Hopefully it stays that way and they fuck off.
 
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Sometimes I think Phil Fish was a presage of how profoundly AIDS infested the indie scene would become, but in reality it's always been like this and only appeared to get worse because of more people and money entering the business
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Honestly, I disagree. 2024 had really good indie titles come out and new great indie titles come out everyday. The minority of developers making slop games is still a minority. :drink:
 
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